Obama is not the Antichrist on that I agree on the rest of your post sorry your on your ownObama is for abortion against God commandment thou shall not kill So he breaks Gods Law He is a Socialist breaks the U.S. constitution Your going to get change just remember be careful for what you ask for you might get it.. !!He isnt Antichrist but he will help to cause the deadly wound that brings Antichrist
Here's what your Barack thinks about God and His word...
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My point is this: God, the Father, Jesus the Savior, and the Holy Spirit, are together in creation... So when the verse says, "created man in Our image," Genesis refers to the Trinity.The angels are NOT made in God's image. They are not men. Men are created in God's image, and that is testament to our elevated esteem in His eyes.Look, the point of this conversation was this: Whether the anti-Christ will be a real man in close collusion with Satan, or Satan himself disguised as a man, the anti-Christ WILL LOOK LIKE A MAN.And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
(Creyn;68528)
My point is this: God, the Father, Jesus the Savior, and the Holy Spirit, are together in creation... So when the verse says, "created man in Our image," Genesis refers to the Trinity.The angels are NOT made in God's image. They are not men. Men are created in God's image, and that is testament to our elevated esteem in His eyes.Look, the point of this conversation was this: Whether the anti-Christ will be a real man in close collusion with Satan, or Satan himself disguised as a man, the anti-Christ WILL LOOK LIKE A MAN.And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
Then let me ask you a few questions.Where did angels come from? Who made the angels?Did Satan exist on its own?And give me scriptures to support your answers. No opinions.By the way, just in case if you miss it, nobody is asking you to believe us, we are only asking you to hear what God says instead of men!
My point is this: God, the Father, Jesus the Savior, and the Holy Spirit, are together in creation... So when the verse says, "created man in Our image," Genesis refers to the Trinity.The angels are NOT made in God's image. They are not men. Men are created in God's image, and that is testament to our elevated esteem in His eyes.Look, the point of this conversation was this: Whether the anti-Christ will be a real man in close collusion with Satan, or Satan himself disguised as a man, the anti-Christ WILL LOOK LIKE A MAN.And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
Then let me ask you a few questions.Where did angels come from? Who made the angels?Did Satan exist on its own?And give me scriptures to support your answers. No opinions.By the way, just in case if you miss it, nobody is asking you to believe us, we are only asking you to hear what God says instead of men!
(Creyn;68531)
(Creyn;68528)
My point is this: God, the Father, Jesus the Savior, and the Holy Spirit, are together in creation... So when the verse says, "created man in Our image," Genesis refers to the Trinity.The angels are NOT made in God's image. They are not men. Men are created in God's image, and that is testament to our elevated esteem in His eyes.Look, the point of this conversation was this: Whether the anti-Christ will be a real man in close collusion with Satan, or Satan himself disguised as a man, the anti-Christ WILL LOOK LIKE A MAN.And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
God made the angels. I'm afraid I don't see your point. Did you think I did not believe He did?The Orange highlights shows it contradicting itself serious big time. Which one are you going to believe?And I'm still waiting for scriptures saying they aren't referred to as men.
(Creyn;68528)
My point is this: God, the Father, Jesus the Savior, and the Holy Spirit, are together in creation... So when the verse says, "created man in Our image," Genesis refers to the Trinity.The angels are NOT made in God's image. They are not men. Men are created in God's image, and that is testament to our elevated esteem in His eyes.Look, the point of this conversation was this: Whether the anti-Christ will be a real man in close collusion with Satan, or Satan himself disguised as a man, the anti-Christ WILL LOOK LIKE A MAN.And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
God made the angels. I'm afraid I don't see your point. Did you think I did not believe He did?The Orange highlights shows it contradicting itself serious big time. Which one are you going to believe?And I'm still waiting for scriptures saying they aren't referred to as men.
That's so foolish... God also made the earth... is IT made in His image?The fact that you keep coming back to Lot... I thought I had explained my view.The reference to the angels in the story as "men", is only because the people come to Lot's house and demand he turn "the men" out, so they might "know" them. In other words, the evil-doing towns people think they saw "men" go into Lot's house, and they want him to send them out. They don't realize they're actually angels, though I imagine they figure it out pretty quickly when they're blinded and can't find the door, right?But the point is, they're only referred to as "men" to illustrate the point that the townspeople think they are... not that they ARE, LITERALLY, MEN.They may have been disguised as men, but they are ANGELS.LOOK, Jesus, a man, God incarnate, but a man nonetheless, is exalted HIGH ABOVE the angels... If, by your rationale angels are MEN, wouldn't that put them on the same level as Jesus?
(Creyn;68536)
That's so foolish... God also made the earth... is IT made in His image?The fact that you keep coming back to Lot... I thought I had explained my view.The reference to the angels in the story as "men", is only because the people come to Lot's house and demand he turn "the men" out, so they might "know" them. In other words, the evil-doing towns people think they saw "men" go into Lot's house, and they want him to send them out. They don't realize they're actually angels, though I imagine they figure it out pretty quickly when they're blinded and can't find the door, right?But the point is, they're only referred to as "men" to illustrate the point that the townspeople think they are... not that they ARE, LITERALLY, MEN.They may have been disguised as men, but they are ANGELS.LOOK, Jesus, a man, God incarnate, but a man nonetheless, is exalted HIGH ABOVE the angels... If, by your rationale angels are MEN, wouldn't that put them on the same level as Jesus?
The angels are the sons of God read Job yes we are made 3 in 1 as the trinity but that doesnt disprove the angels look like us as they do throughout scripturea lastly I doubt God talks to himself and said let us create them in our however they are spirit we are flesh how did Christ look in his resurrected body? our spirit bodies are not ghosts they hve substace did the hebrews in the desert eat Angels food?
That's so foolish... God also made the earth... is IT made in His image?The fact that you keep coming back to Lot... I thought I had explained my view.The reference to the angels in the story as "men", is only because the people come to Lot's house and demand he turn "the men" out, so they might "know" them. In other words, the evil-doing towns people think they saw "men" go into Lot's house, and they want him to send them out. They don't realize they're actually angels, though I imagine they figure it out pretty quickly when they're blinded and can't find the door, right?But the point is, they're only referred to as "men" to illustrate the point that the townspeople think they are... not that they ARE, LITERALLY, MEN.They may have been disguised as men, but they are ANGELS.LOOK, Jesus, a man, God incarnate, but a man nonetheless, is exalted HIGH ABOVE the angels... If, by your rationale angels are MEN, wouldn't that put them on the same level as Jesus?
The angels are the sons of God read Job yes we are made 3 in 1 as the trinity but that doesnt disprove the angels look like us as they do throughout scripturea lastly I doubt God talks to himself and said let us create them in our however they are spirit we are flesh how did Christ look in his resurrected body? our spirit bodies are not ghosts they hve substace did the hebrews in the desert eat Angels food?
(Christina;68538)
The angels are the sons of God read Job yes we are made 3 in 1 as the trinity but that doesnt disprove the angels look like us as they do throughout scripture
They may well be sons of God and, at times, resemble us, but are they made in God's image? I can find that written nowhere, can you? And, check out Isaiah 6:2,6 I've never known a man to have a set of wings, have you? SO, if WE humans are made in God's image without wings, one can assume that angels are NOT made in His image with them.(Christina;68538)
a lastly I doubt God talks to himself and said let us create them in our
As I've said before, Jesus prays to His Heavenly Father several times... is He "talking to Himself"? No... 3 distinct parts of the Trinity are represented and all can function independently of each other. So, it is perfectly natural for God to say to The Spirit and Jesus, "We will make them in Our image"(Christina;68538)
they are spirit we are flesh how did Christ look in his resurrected body? our spirit bodies are not ghosts they hve substace
Christ was resurrected in His own body... the holes in His hands and side, remember? Thomas touched them. And this is very important: Jesus died, as a man, and as a man He rose, thereby completing the plan of salvation and defeating death for humankind. Were it not His physical, earthly body that arose from the dead, just like Lazarus, then what makes His death any different from every other? The stories of His resurrection say nothing of any miraculous transfiguration that turned Him into a "spirit body"... No, He arose, Him, the way He was before, only alive again!(Christina;68538)
did the hebrews in the desert eat Angels food?
This I have no idea what you're talking about... do you mean manna from heaven? What does that have to do with what we're discussing?
The angels are the sons of God read Job yes we are made 3 in 1 as the trinity but that doesnt disprove the angels look like us as they do throughout scripture
They may well be sons of God and, at times, resemble us, but are they made in God's image? I can find that written nowhere, can you? And, check out Isaiah 6:2,6 I've never known a man to have a set of wings, have you? SO, if WE humans are made in God's image without wings, one can assume that angels are NOT made in His image with them.(Christina;68538)
a lastly I doubt God talks to himself and said let us create them in our
As I've said before, Jesus prays to His Heavenly Father several times... is He "talking to Himself"? No... 3 distinct parts of the Trinity are represented and all can function independently of each other. So, it is perfectly natural for God to say to The Spirit and Jesus, "We will make them in Our image"(Christina;68538)
they are spirit we are flesh how did Christ look in his resurrected body? our spirit bodies are not ghosts they hve substace
Christ was resurrected in His own body... the holes in His hands and side, remember? Thomas touched them. And this is very important: Jesus died, as a man, and as a man He rose, thereby completing the plan of salvation and defeating death for humankind. Were it not His physical, earthly body that arose from the dead, just like Lazarus, then what makes His death any different from every other? The stories of His resurrection say nothing of any miraculous transfiguration that turned Him into a "spirit body"... No, He arose, Him, the way He was before, only alive again!(Christina;68538)
did the hebrews in the desert eat Angels food?
This I have no idea what you're talking about... do you mean manna from heaven? What does that have to do with what we're discussing?
(Jordan;68480)
Hate to break that up... but there is nowhere in the bible claiming Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ.THE FINAL and REAL Anti-Christ is Lucifer, whose name is Satan the fallen archangel. (Isaiah 14:12-16, Ezekiel 28, II Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 12:9)Sorry, but Obama will never be THE Anti-Christ. He is only a strong TYPE.
The bible is never going to give us the name of the anti-Christ. Otherwise, EVERYONE would know who he is and thus not worship him. It takes spiritual discernment that only the saints have to know who he is. Satan is the dragon, not the beast.
Hate to break that up... but there is nowhere in the bible claiming Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ.THE FINAL and REAL Anti-Christ is Lucifer, whose name is Satan the fallen archangel. (Isaiah 14:12-16, Ezekiel 28, II Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 12:9)Sorry, but Obama will never be THE Anti-Christ. He is only a strong TYPE.
The bible is never going to give us the name of the anti-Christ. Otherwise, EVERYONE would know who he is and thus not worship him. It takes spiritual discernment that only the saints have to know who he is. Satan is the dragon, not the beast.
(Creyn;68528)
And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
Couldn't agree more. Good to know that I am not the only one who notices this.
And frankly, Jordan, I think you need a little convicting. You take a corrective stance in every post you make, and refuse to believe that anyone but you could have divine guidance in reading their Bible too. So I ask you again, what makes you more qualified than me to interpret the word? How can you be sure that another interpretation offered here is not God's actual meaning?You come off like the pastor of this place, and I don't remember having to sign a waiver when I signed up, that I would always accept as fact, what amounts to your interpretations.
Couldn't agree more. Good to know that I am not the only one who notices this.
(AJG;68547)
Couldn't agree more. Good to know that I am not the only one who notices this.
Your comment and the quote to which you responded are by far the most common comments I see between Christians online. The fact is, EVERYONE thinks his interpretations are correct. No one has interpretations that he thinks are wrong.So we need to remember that our struggle is not against flesh and blood. If you disagree with an interpretation then you can agree to disagree. But attacking another person for his interpretation is destructive. We are here to discuss biblical issues, not turn on individuals. But from my experience, I've found that those who make comments like yours are angry because they truly believe the person they are attacking is right. If he is right, then we can learn from him. Otherwise, it's not hard to agree to disagree.
Couldn't agree more. Good to know that I am not the only one who notices this.
Your comment and the quote to which you responded are by far the most common comments I see between Christians online. The fact is, EVERYONE thinks his interpretations are correct. No one has interpretations that he thinks are wrong.So we need to remember that our struggle is not against flesh and blood. If you disagree with an interpretation then you can agree to disagree. But attacking another person for his interpretation is destructive. We are here to discuss biblical issues, not turn on individuals. But from my experience, I've found that those who make comments like yours are angry because they truly believe the person they are attacking is right. If he is right, then we can learn from him. Otherwise, it's not hard to agree to disagree.
The bible is never going to give us the name of the anti-Christ. Otherwise, EVERYONE would know who he is and thus not worship him. It takes spiritual discernment that only the saints have to know who he is. Satan is the dragon, not the beast.[/QUOTE]Well, that's your choice to believe that if you want to, but the bible says otherwise. I don't take vague speculations. I'll stick with Christ and God's interpretation... not mine or men.Carico;68546][QUOTE=Jordan;68480]Hate to break that up... but there is nowhere in the bible claiming Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ.[b][u]THE[/u][/b] [b][u]FINAL[/u][/b] and [b][u]REAL[/u][/b] Anti-Christ is Lucifer said:
"Creyn;68541][QUOTE=Christina;68538]The angels are the sons of God read Job yes we are made 3 in 1 as the trinity but that doesnt disprove the angels look like us as they do throughout scripture...[/QUOTE]They may well be sons of God and said:
LOL! Angry? I'm not mad or angry. The problem I see here is everybody LOVES to claim their own interpretation came from God. God is found in a book, not in men's words, a building etc. I think I'll go to God directly. Again, I'll stick with Christ and God's interpretation... not mine or men.
_________________I agree 100%. God is not divided and His words are outside of ourselves. That's why it does no good to attack someone for what the bible says. If he is wrong, point it out through scripture. That's all that's necessary. If he disagrees, then agree to disagree with him.
_________________I agree 100%. God is not divided and His words are outside of ourselves. That's why it does no good to attack someone for what the bible says. If he is wrong, point it out through scripture. That's all that's necessary. If he disagrees, then agree to disagree with him.
This topic is way off track if you guys want to continue this Angel coversation please start on new thread
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