Homeland Security Study / Mosques

[Thursday]

It is misguided and arrogant to believe that your opinion is fact.

Yet so typical of ideologues.

 

[aspen]

Ohhhhh, poor boy. Not even close.

I am judging both Muslims and Christians by their fruits, both in the past and today.
In the past, both were violent, committing torture and murder in their name of their faith.

Today one faith is the light of the world. Its followers are preaching a message of hope and love, building churches, hospitals, orphanages and schools around the world while providing millions to charities to help the poor and assist during natural disasters both here and abroad.
They preach Christ's message of love but don't force anyone to follow it or threaten their lives if they don't.
As a matter of fact, many are martyred because they hold onto their beliefs but refuse to push or defend them violently.

The other faith's followers......well, let's take a quick peek, shall we?

- Advocate the murder of those who don't accept their faith (infidels).
- Advocate the murder of those who convert from Islam.
- Advocate the murder of those who criticize the writings of the Koran or draw pictures of Muhammed.
- Refuse religious freedom and attack Christians within those countries that are predominantly Muslim.

Only a small number of Muslims dare speak out against this practice. The rest.....silent.
Oh, they may oppose it, but Qui tacet consentit.

Again, both Christians and Muslims used their faith to justify murder, violence, etc. in the past.
Only one of them is still doing that today.


But AGAIN, you changd the subject.
I understand why, but the fact of the matter is, you continue to do it.

Your original post which kicked off our interaction was this:
"What were Christians doing 500 years ago? Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity and based on our history, they are right on schedule." - Aspen

-- The implication is that where Muslims are today matches where Christianity was 500 years ago so their actions are somewhat understandable.
The simple fact - again, that you choose to ignore - is that Muslims were JUST AS VIOLENT as Christians back 500 years ago so your statement is ridiculous, at best. Repeat, at best.

And that their VIOLENT spread across North Africa, bringing Islam at the point of a sword predated even the Crusades.

That puts your "student of history" claim squarely in the trash bin.

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[Foreigner]

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-- So, we should judge all Christians by the acts of ONE mentally disturbed man. Acts that the entire Christian community mourn and do not support in any way, shape, form, or style?

That means that you and I should be judged by the perverted activities of the cult members of the Westboro Baptist Church because - after all - they are just like us.

There is a difference between a individual doing something that wasn't sactioned by his faith, a small splinter cult that incorrectly identifies themselves as Christian....

....and a several hundred year old organized denomination where hundreds of thousands of its members around the world support the torture and killing of people who don't belong to that faith, their leaders teach that this is a just practice based on their religious texts, millions of members remain silent (either out of fear or of tacit approcal) and governments where that faith is prevelant sanction and support the members of that religion in those heinous practices.

As I said Aspen, you really aren't very good at this.




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[aspen]

-- So, we should judge all Christians by the acts of ONE mentally disturbed man. Acts that the entire Christian community mourn and do not support in any way, shape, form, or style?

That means that you and I should be judged by the perverted activities of the cult members of the Westboro Baptist Church because - after all - they are just like us.

There is a difference between a individual doing something that wasn't sactioned by his faith, a small splinter cult that incorrectly identifies themselves as Christian....

....and a several hundred year old organized denomination where hundreds of thousands of its members around the world support the torture and killing of people who don't belong to that faith, their leaders teach that this is a just practice based on their religious texts, millions of members remain silent (either out of fear or of tacit approcal) and governments where that faith is prevelant sanction and support the members of that religion in those heinous practices.

As I said Aspen, you really aren't very good at this.


Like I said above - that terrorist is just as much a Christian as Arab/Persian/Palestinian terrorists are Muslim. They are all crack-pots and not representative of their religions.




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[Foreigner]

Like I said above - that terrorist is just as much a Christian as Arab/Persian/Palestinian terrorists are Muslim. They are all crack-pots and not representative of their religions.

-- Except when the religion taught in thousands of Mosques supports the idea of torture and murder of those who don't believe what they believe, and hundreds of thousands of people accept, support, and practice those ideas, and millions more in those mosques do not condemn (mostly because of tacit approval).

Then yes, they are representative of their religion.

 

[aspen]

-- Except when the religion taught in thousands of Mosques supports the idea of torture and murder of those who don't believe what they believe, and hundreds of thousands of people accept, support, and practice those ideas, and millions more in those mosques do not condemn (mostly because of tacit approval).

Then yes, they are representative of their religion.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Foreigner]

Aspen! Agreed.

 

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-- You do realize that not everything discussed on this board is spiritual, don't you, and that whether something is a part of doctrine for a denomination, etc. is either a matter of fact or it is not?

No? Tsk tsk tsk...

"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world–rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
Eph 6:12

Everything, dear sir, with regard to the conflict between Islam and every other faith on the planet IS spiritual.

For Christians, the discussion about Islamic motivations and goals would be incomplete without contemplating its true source, Satan. Islam is based upon murder, deception and lies. It always has been and it always will be. In point of fact, Islam is the only religion on the planet with a specific doctrine to justify lying.

Let Muslim leaders and their own scriptures speak for themselves;

"Believers when in a weakened stage in a non-Muslim country should forgive and be patient with People of the Book when they insult Allah and his prophet by any means. Believers should lie to People of the Book to protect their lives and their religion.
- Ibn Taymiyah "THE SWORD ON THE NECK OF THE ACCUSER OF MUHAMMAD"

Anyone who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith - but such as open their breast to unbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful penalty.
- Qur'an Surah 16:106

"Know this that lying is not sin by itself, but if it brings harm to you it could be ugly. However, you can lie if that will keep you from evil or if it will result in prosperity."
- Imam Al-Ghazali (Muslim theologian and philosopher)

"The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam's image and make it more attractive to prospective converts."
- Abdullan Al-Araby (Muslim theologian, philosopher and leader)

NEVER TRUST A MUSLIM

 

[kiwimac]

-- Except when the religion taught in thousands of Mosques supports the idea of torture and murder of those who don't believe what they believe, and hundreds of thousands of people accept, support, and practice those ideas, and millions more in those mosques do not condemn (mostly because of tacit approval).

Then yes, they are representative of their religion.

Perhaps you should look at http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/

 

[Foreigner]

Perhaps you should look at http://kurzman.unc.e...inst-terrorism/

-- What good is that when for every Muslim that speaks out against violence there are hundreds or thousands that support it?

Just how small can the percentage be that feels something contrary to the majority in order to say that the vast majority's stance isn't the belief or practice of that religion or group?

There is a specific Christian denomination within the Church that not only advocates gay marriage, but also allows for ordaining non-celebate homosexuals.

Because of that can we say that Christians do not oppose homosexuality?

 

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PARK 51 - the mosque at Ground Zero
Raymond Ibrahim, a former associate director of the Middle East Forum, said the project and name were not "a gesture of peace and interfaith dialogue" but were "allusive of Islamic conquest and consolidation" and that Americans should realize that mosques are not "Muslim counterparts to Christian churches" but rather, "are symbols of domination and centers of radicalization."

"There is no real dialogue, since Muslims never reciprocate the goodwill gestures made by the Christians. The result is we sit down together, and the Christians say what a wonderful religion Islam is, and the Muslims say what a wonderful religion Islam is."
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (Imam of Park 51)

those who studied the religion should not allow our religion to be misrepresented to fit into a scheme that wants to paint the religion of Islam as non-violent. Islam is not non-violent.
MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN

Brothers, do not allow your ears to be tickled by Muslim lies. Islam, we are told, is the wave of the future and those that do not ride the wave will be drowned in it.

Christ, not Islam, is the only peace lost souls may find in this world.

 

[revturmoil]

Veteran said,

There will be Church organizations and religious systems of men who will persecute their own Christian brethren for refusing to bow to the coming false messiah.

I just cant believe that. Christian's will not persecute Christian's in the last days. Muslim's will persecute Christians.

It's people who believe in a global empire, a one world government, and a united global religion of the beast that believe such things.

Christian's will unite in the last days against Islam and not against one another.

Religious wars are coming and they will not be Christian against Christian!

Why is it that so many Christian's find it necessary to demonize the Chruch in the last days?

I say it's because they are misled, deceived, and accept the false teachings of "the prophecy experts."

And that's the way the devil wants it!

The empire of the man of sin will be limited to his ten nation Islamic Empire.

 

[revturmoil]

What a load of Rot. I have read the Qur'an, studied the Hadiths, spent time learning about Islam and I can tell you that you are worng!

Well then you obviously don't know the koran very well and are unaware of Islam's ultimate goal of world domination through demographics and terrorism.

Have you studied the bible as much as the koran? Are you an Islamic apologist?

Here are just a few surah's'.

4]Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Sura 2:223 your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off themSura 9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);...

Sura 9:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers . . .
Surah 5.51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Sura 5:38 "As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power." Graphic photos of the Taliban pleasing their god.

http://www.rawa.org/handcut3.htm

Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

By the way. How long did it take you to read the Hadith. It's about the size of the encyclopedia Britannica!
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What a load of Rot. I have read the Qur'an, studied the Hadiths, spent time learning about Islam and I can tell you that you are worng!

The quote above was in response to an assertion I made that Islamic motivations are murderous and treacherous. Since my words are not believed, I quote noted Muslims instead.....

those who studied the religion should not allow our religion to be misrepresented to fit into a scheme that wants to paint the religion of Islam as non-violent. Islam is not non-violent.
MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN

PARK 51 - the mosque at Ground Zero
Raymond Ibrahim, a former associate director of the Middle East Forum, said the project and name were not "a gesture of peace and interfaith dialogue" but were "allusive of Islamic conquest and consolidation" and that Americans should realize that mosques are not "Muslim counterparts to Christian churches" but rather, "are symbols of domination and centers of radicalization."

"There is no real dialogue, since Muslims never reciprocate the goodwill gestures made by the Christians. The result is we sit down together, and the Christians say what a wonderful religion Islam is, and the Muslims say what a wonderful religion Islam is."
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (Imam of Park 51)

"There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."
- Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey (since March 14, 2003)

Not only is Islam advanced by murder, IT IS THE ONLY RELIGION ON THE PLANET WITH A SPECIFIC DOCTRINE TO JUSTIFY LYING.

"Believers when in a weakened stage in a non-Muslim country should forgive and be patient with People of the Book when they insult Allah and his prophet by any means. Believers should lie to People of the Book to protect their lives and their religion.
- Ibn Taymiyah "THE SWORD ON THE NECK OF THE ACCUSER OF MUHAMMAD"

Anyone who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith - but such as open their breast to unbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful penalty.
- Qur'an Surah 16:106

"Know this that lying is not sin by itself, but if it brings harm to you it could be ugly. However, you can lie if that will keep you from evil or if it will result in prosperity."
- Imam Al-Ghazali (Muslim theologian and philosopher)

"The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam's image and make it more attractive to prospective converts."
- Abdullan Al-Araby (Muslim theologian, philosopher and leader)

NEVER TRUST A MUSLIM.

 

[kiwimac]

PARK 51 - the mosque at Ground Zero
Raymond Ibrahim, a former associate director of the Middle East Forum, said the project and name were not "a gesture of peace and interfaith dialogue" but were "allusive of Islamic conquest and consolidation" and that Americans should realize that mosques are not "Muslim counterparts to Christian churches" but rather, "are symbols of domination and centers of radicalization."

"There is no real dialogue, since Muslims never reciprocate the goodwill gestures made by the Christians. The result is we sit down together, and the Christians say what a wonderful religion Islam is, and the Muslims say what a wonderful religion Islam is."
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (Imam of Park 51)

those who studied the religion should not allow our religion to be misrepresented to fit into a scheme that wants to paint the religion of Islam as non-violent. Islam is not non-violent.
MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN

Brothers, do not allow your ears to be tickled by Muslim lies. Islam, we are told, is the wave of the future and those that do not ride the wave will be drowned in it.

Christ, not Islam, is the only peace lost souls may find in this world.

You are quoting a Black Muslim. Black Muslims are not considered true muslims as they base their religion on RACE. Like quoting the KKK as a Christian organisation.

Well then you obviously don't know the koran very well and are unaware of Islam's ultimate goal of world domination through demographics and terrorism.

Have you studied the bible as much as the koran? Are you an Islamic apologist?

Here are just a few surah's'.

4]Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Sura 2:223 your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off themSura 9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);...

Sura 9:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers . . .
Surah 5.51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Sura 5:38 "As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power." Graphic photos of the Taliban pleasing their god.

http://www.rawa.org/handcut3.htm

Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
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By the way. How long did it take you to read the Hadith. It's about the size of the encyclopedia Britannica!


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I have read Bukhari's Hadith collection and a good portion of the Shi'a collection of Hadith and have studied Islam for over 30 years. If you are going to list battles as evidence of Islam's 'wrongness" perhaps you might also list the battles that Christian nations have done as well or would that simply prove my point rather than yours?​

 

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You are quoting a Black Muslim. Black Muslims are not considered true muslims as they base their religion on RACE. Like quoting the KKK as a Christian organisation.

"There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."
- Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey (since March 14, 2003)

Your attempt at masking Muslim lies by alienating one or more groups from the crowd is insulting. A dog is a dog no matter what breed it is.

I have read Bukhari's Hadith collection and a good portion of the Shi'a collection of Hadith and have studied Islam for over 30 years. If you are going to list battles as evidence of Islam's 'wrongness" perhaps you might also list the battles that Christian nations have done as well or would that simply prove my point rather than yours?[/indent]

If one can't prove a point by logic or fact than the next best tactic is to divert attention to an unrelated topic.
Substitute one lie for another.
In this case Muslim lies and murder are justified by pointing to the actions of other governments, other kingdoms, other religions and other epocs.

The discussion is now, the danger is today and the lie is that Islam is peaceful.

There is no greater danger to human peace and the way of God in truth than Islam.
The religion is a lie and the lie is justified by violence and distortions of those who deny the truth.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God; the way, the light and the truth. There is no other way to God than Christ.
You can lie about us and kill us and subvert our governments, but Christ will stand above all.
Praise His name forever.

As for a long list of battles, I have but one.
Jesus fought it on the cross and died there for the sins of men who will accept it.
Christ won that battle and rose again three days later to prove it.
So shall all who follow Him and win the battle in His name.

 

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A black Muslim is not a member of the Islamic faith. I can, if you wish, quote the necessary opinions from Muslim leaders. Islam is not more inherently violent that Christianity, to insist that it is is simply to betray your ignorance of Islamic teachings. I am not a muslim, I am, however, a defender of those lied about.