Started in a new thread, is homosexuality a part of homosexuals (like something they are born with, a trait if you please), or is learnt behaviour?
Yours truly takes the negative.
Yours truly takes the negative.
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The question about nature vs. nurture should really be rephrased as 'is homosexuality a person's fault or do they have no choice?'
Do you guys/girls agree with my evaluation of the condition? I have tried maintaining the scriptural integrity of my ideas throughout the post.
Now with most inner healing I believe Christ may or may not give a sinful part of our nature to bear through our walk with Him. One clear sign that He will heal it is whether or not it interferes with our earthly ministry in Christ. And that's kind of an individual topic. I'm not against understanding that a homosexual by nature before Christ, would carry that part of his nature with Him after becoming a Christian, to the day he/she dies.
Both. Sexuality is deeply-rooted and complex.
The question about nature vs. nurture should really be rephrased as 'is homosexuality a person's fault or do they have no choice?'
Started in a new thread, is homosexuality a part of homosexuals (like something they are born with, a trait if you please), or is learnt behaviour?
Yours truly takes the negative.
I don't see how I could rephrase it. A person isn't given a heal-all card upon the point of salvation, but the Holy Spirit's power to overcome any temptation. If someone's ministry which takes place after salvation cannot occur with the nature someone was born with, however, I believe God would transform that part of it (as well as anything else he wants to in His timing and method). That doesn't mean we lose our sinful nature upon receiving Christ, but we put on a new nature, even while we are still sinful. That's about as scriptural as I can get without quoting verse. Otherwise, there's no reason a Christian would ever sin after the point of salvation. We still fall short, we still struggle against our own nature, we still need to overcome daily according to whatever burden we're meant to bear, which is light as a feather concerning the exceeding honor and glory we receive for bearing Christ's name. I'm sorry if we still disagree.
I believe that homosexuality is a perversion of a natural sexual drive. Therefore, you can't be born with it. I'll post some more stuff soon, but i've got some friends coming round. Bring the party on!
So, sharing the Gospel with them in love is "condemning and dehumanizing" them, simply because the Gospel says what they are doing is wrong?
No, sorry again Xian, I think you're agreeing with me, at least on my first point.
As to my post.
"I don't think you should-have to bring up someone's specific sins during evangelizing."
I guess I do tote discussing general sin though (At least in some form) because without the law, we don't know our sin. So without knowledge of why we need God, there's no point (in our shaded perspective) to be saved. You don't "Have" to bring up the word sin per say, but there should be some context in evangelism for what people are being saved from.
But ya, the good news doesn't really change either way.
-I could just be editing all my posts after you first read them just to confuse you. But nah, I wouldn't do that.
Dum Dum dummm... would I?