Hosea 2

[Heart2Soul]

Hosea 2 (KJV)
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¹⁴ Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.
¹⁵ And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.
¹⁶ And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
¹⁷ For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
¹⁸ And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
¹⁹ And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
²⁰ I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
²¹ And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
²² And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
²³ And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

This scripture passage really jumped out at me because I was searching who the bride or wife of God is.
Ishi means "my husband"
Baali means "my lord"
BAALI
My idol, my lord
ba'-a-li ba`ali, ("my master"): Baal, a common name for all heathen gods, had in common practice been used also of Yahweh. Hosea (Hosea 2:16, 17) demands that Yahweh be no longer called Ba`ali ("my Baal" = "my lord") but 'Ishi ("my husband"), and we find that later the Israelites abandoned the use of Ba`al for Yahweh.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

 

[farouk]

Hosea 2 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¹⁴ Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.
¹⁵ And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.
¹⁶ And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
¹⁷ For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
¹⁸ And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
¹⁹ And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
²⁰ I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
²¹ And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
²² And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
²³ And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

This scripture passage really jumped out at me because I was searching who the bride or wife of God is.
Ishi means "my husband"
Baali means "my lord"
BAALI
My idol, my lord
ba'-a-li ba`ali, ("my master"): Baal, a common name for all heathen gods, had in common practice been used also of Yahweh. Hosea (Hosea 2:16, 17) demands that Yahweh be no longer called Ba`ali ("my Baal" = "my lord") but 'Ishi ("my husband"), and we find that later the Israelites abandoned the use of Ba`al for Yahweh.

@Heart2Soul I find Hosea to be among the most deeply moving books of the Bible; the sheer patience and lovingkindness of God, demonstrated through the prophet, for an erring wife whom the prophet was to be willing to take back to himself. What a glorious picture of the redemption that there is in Christ! :)

(A huge contrast from the drive-thru divorce culture of places such as Las Vegas. LV indeed has a lively music scene and a lot of really talented tattoo artists; but as far as the divorce culture - and gambling - is concerned, it's as if marriage is reduced to a roulette wheel, to be spun at will...)

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul I find Hosea to be among the most deeply moving books of the Bible; the sheer patience and lovingkindness of God, demonstrated through the prophet, for an erring wife whom the prophet was to be willing to take back to himself. What a glorious picture of the redemption that there is in Christ! :)

(A huge contrast from the drive-thru divorce culture of places such as Las Vegas. LV indeed has a lively music scene and a lot of really talented tattoo artists; but as far as the divorce culture - and gambling - is concerned, it's as if marriage is reduced to a roulette wheel, to be spun at will...)

Hosea is probably the only Book in the Bible that shows promise that Israel will return to God and once again be committed to Him in faithfulness and righteousness.
I do love Hosea

 

[farouk]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

@Heart2Soul You might find this link useful, with Scripture references to check out:

Israel The Wife of Jehovah | Precept Austin

NB: I don't know what the author's overall doctrinal stance is.

 

[Heart2Soul]

And the command of God for Hosea to take a whore/prostitute as a wife is so symbolic of Israel who left God and began to sleep with their pagan gods....but God refuses to let that he the end of their journey. Until He makes Israel His betrothed again He will not forsake His Covenant with them.

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul You might find this link useful, with Scripture references to check out:

Israel The Wife of Jehovah | Precept Austin

NB: I don't know what the author's overall doctrinal stance is.

Very informative and useful!

 

[farouk]

And the command of God for Hosea to take a whore/prostitute as a wife is so symbolic of Israel who left God and began to sleep with their pagan gods....but God refuses to let that he the end of their journey. Until He makes Israel His betrothed again He will not forsake His Covenant with them.

@Heart2Soul Ties in also with Romans about a future for Israel.

Good to distinguish between Jews, Gentiles and the church of God (1 Corinthians 10.32), but what an amazing demonstration of lovingkindness and patience on the part of the Lord, as demonstrated in Hosea!

 

[farouk]

Very informative and useful!

@Heart2Soul YW...

 

[amadeus]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

I copied this from an old discussion on another forum long ago [2009] and far away which may help you some:

Originally Posted by _____

If the church is the mother, then jesus is already married with children, or he is not married yet and having babies already. What do you think, is jesus married or not married yet.

______

Amadeus replied:
Who said that Jesus is the Father? If we are children or sons, are we children and sons of of Jesus or of God? With whom are we not joint-heirs?

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." Rom 8:14-17

Who is the One who has already been married and at least once been divorced, spiritually?

"For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." Isa 54:5

"Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away." Isa 50:1

Have mothers of God’s children today been put away because of adultery? Are any in danger of being put away for adultery against God?

 

[Cassandra]

Oh! This is exactly the chapter I was reading today. I use the Enduring Word commentary to reread the chapter after I read the Bible.

You can really see God's love in this chapter.
The Enduring Word writes this comment on chapter 2 verse 8: (I thought is was beautiful and didn't know what to do with it, and was hoping someday I could find a place and post it here. I come to this forum and there is a thread on Hosea 2> Thank you, Lord! )

"c. For she did not know that I gave her grain: Even when Israel went after other gods, the Lord still provided for her. This showed His great, unselfish love to Israel. Even though Israel took what God provided and prepared it for Baal, He still loved them.

i. When Hosea provided for Gomer, she spent it on her adulterous lovers. It’s as if Hosea went to the house of Gomer’s lover, where she lived apart from her husband and in adultery. He knew that this scoundrel of a man couldn’t provide for Gomer, and that she lived in poverty and rags. Hosea knocked at the door. He spoke to the man who answered, “Are you the man living with Gomer?” The man wondered what business it was of Hosea’s; then he revealed: “I’m Hosea, her husband. I’ve brought these groceries and money so she can be provided for.” When Hosea left, Gomer and her lover must have thought he was a fool. What a great dinner they had together with the food Hosea brought! But this is how the LORD loves us, lavishing blessing on us even when we are worshipping idols, providing us with blessings we waste on other gods"

Hosea Chapter 2

 

[Heart2Soul]

I copied this from an old discussion on another forum long ago [2009] and far away which may help you some:

Originally Posted by _____

If the church is the mother, then jesus is already married with children, or he is not married yet and having babies already. What do you think, is jesus married or not married yet.

______

Amadeus replied:
Who said that Jesus is the Father? If we are children or sons, are we children and sons of of Jesus or of God? With whom are we not joint-heirs?

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." Rom 8:14-17

Who is the One who has already been married and at least once been divorced, spiritually?

"For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." Isa 54:5

"Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away." Isa 50:1

Have mothers of God’s children today been put away because of adultery? Are any in danger of being put away for adultery against God?

Beautiful and it fits in well with this study.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Oh! This is exactly the chapter I was reading today. I use the Enduring Word commentary to reread the chapter after I read the Bible.

You can really see God's love in this chapter.
The Enduring Word writes this comment on chapter 2 verse 8: (I thought is was beautiful and didn't know what to do with it, and was hoping someday I could find a place and post it here. I come to this forum and there is a thread on Hosea 2> Thank you, Lord! )

"c. For she did not know that I gave her grain: Even when Israel went after other gods, the Lord still provided for her. This showed His great, unselfish love to Israel. Even though Israel took what God provided and prepared it for Baal, He still loved them.

i. When Hosea provided for Gomer, she spent it on her adulterous lovers. It’s as if Hosea went to the house of Gomer’s lover, where she lived apart from her husband and in adultery. He knew that this scoundrel of a man couldn’t provide for Gomer, and that she lived in poverty and rags. Hosea knocked at the door. He spoke to the man who answered, “Are you the man living with Gomer?” The man wondered what business it was of Hosea’s; then he revealed: “I’m Hosea, her husband. I’ve brought these groceries and money so she can be provided for.” When Hosea left, Gomer and her lover must have thought he was a fool. What a great dinner they had together with the food Hosea brought! But this is how the LORD loves us, lavishing blessing on us even when we are worshipping idols, providing us with blessings we waste on other gods"

Hosea Chapter 2

How faithful He is to love us unconditionally....and Hosea gave us a perfect example of unconditional love.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Oh! This is exactly the chapter I was reading today. I use the Enduring Word commentary to reread the chapter after I read the Bible.

You can really see God's love in this chapter.
The Enduring Word writes this comment on chapter 2 verse 8: (I thought is was beautiful and didn't know what to do with it, and was hoping someday I could find a place and post it here. I come to this forum and there is a thread on Hosea 2> Thank you, Lord! )

"c. For she did not know that I gave her grain: Even when Israel went after other gods, the Lord still provided for her. This showed His great, unselfish love to Israel. Even though Israel took what God provided and prepared it for Baal, He still loved them.

i. When Hosea provided for Gomer, she spent it on her adulterous lovers. It’s as if Hosea went to the house of Gomer’s lover, where she lived apart from her husband and in adultery. He knew that this scoundrel of a man couldn’t provide for Gomer, and that she lived in poverty and rags. Hosea knocked at the door. He spoke to the man who answered, “Are you the man living with Gomer?” The man wondered what business it was of Hosea’s; then he revealed: “I’m Hosea, her husband. I’ve brought these groceries and money so she can be provided for.” When Hosea left, Gomer and her lover must have thought he was a fool. What a great dinner they had together with the food Hosea brought! But this is how the LORD loves us, lavishing blessing on us even when we are worshipping idols, providing us with blessings we waste on other gods"

Hosea Chapter 2

Thank you for sharing this....I wonder if Hosea provided for Gomer out of love, commitment or obedience to God....

 

[ScottA]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

Technically, Israel was God's wife, whom he has since divorced. :)

The roll of husband now belongs to God in Christ, and Christ with his church. This he has done so that "there will be one flock and one shepherd."

 

[Jay Ross]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

I fear that this will be fruitless purpose. Speaking from experience, I find that people are not wanting to let go of their beliefs or perceived understandings even when the evidence that we can show them is overwhelming to support our point of view.

We can tell them once, we can tell them twice, and after that we must let God do the correcting, particularly if we are right in our own understanding, otherwise we are judging them and that is not our role, that role is only God's role to play as and when He sees fit to do so.

Shalom

 

[Heart2Soul]

I fear that this will be fruitless purpose. Speaking from experience, I find that people are not wanting to let go of their beliefs or perceived understandings even when the evidence that we can show them is overwhelming to support our point of view.

We can tell them once, we can tell them twice, and after that we must let God do the correcting, particularly if we are right in our own understanding, otherwise we are judging them and that is not our role, that role is only God's role to play as and when He sees fit to do so.

Shalom

I do agree...
I used to tell people "you can change my mind but it would take the Holy Spirit to change my beliefs"...
And at times He did....as I studied and searched for His Truth in His Word I began to see where the was error in some teachings of the church....but the basic foundation of Jesus as our Chief Cornerstone is constant and will never change.

 

[robert derrick]

I was searching for scripture that would refute the claim that Mary is God's wife....fact is Israel is his wife.

And Jerusalem above is our mother. (Gal 4)

 

[Davy]

Hosea 2 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¹⁴ Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.
¹⁵ And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.
¹⁶ And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
¹⁷ For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
¹⁸ And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
¹⁹ And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
²⁰ I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
²¹ And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
²² And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
²³ And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

This scripture passage really jumped out at me because I was searching who the bride or wife of God is.
Ishi means "my husband"
Baali means "my lord"
BAALI
My idol, my lord
ba'-a-li ba`ali, ("my master"): Baal, a common name for all heathen gods, had in common practice been used also of Yahweh. Hosea (Hosea 2:16, 17) demands that Yahweh be no longer called Ba`ali ("my Baal" = "my lord") but 'Ishi ("my husband"), and we find that later the Israelites abandoned the use of Ba`al for Yahweh.

What you've read there in the Book of Hosea is about the northern ten lost tribes of Israel.

God split old Israel in Solomon's day into two separate kingdoms (1 Kings 11). He setup Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim over the ten northern tribes, as that northern kingdom only was then known as Israel (called the "house of Israel" or "kingdom of Israel" in God's Word).

God scattered those ten tribes out of the northern holy land first, never to return as a people. They lost their heritage as the larger part of Israel. They lost knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, etc. But the "house of Judah" didn't, but kept their heritage as Israel, etc.

There are certain artifacts, like the Jehu steele, a stone with ancient Assyria inscriptions, which point to what the Assyrians called king Omri, a king over the ten northern tribes. It is one of the sources of the name Khumri. And in the 1930's, linguist professor Leroy Waterman of the University of Michigan translated names the Assyrians used for lost Israel, and it was linked to the Cimmerians (the 'C' pronounced like a 'K').

The Cimmerian tribes the study of Anthropology well knows of. The Cimmerians and Scythians were the Caucasian peoples that migrated from the east into Asia Minor and Europe, and formed the majority in the western nations, that would later become the western Christian nations. These Cimmerians made up the Celts, Franks, Normans, Gauls, Norsk, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Germani, peoples, basically the peoples that crossed the Caucasus Mountains above the Black Sea and became known as Caucasians.

When they migrated into Asia Minor and Europe, they brought their Baal idols with them which was the reason why God scattered the ten tribes in the first place. Each different region of the peoples in the west had their own Baal gods, etc., like Apollo, Jupiter, Odin, Mars, Zeus, etc., etc. Then when it was time, our Heavenly Father sent His Son to the Jews in Jerusalem first Whom they rejected, and after the Passion of Christ, The Gospel then went to these scattered tribes among the Gentiles in that "wilderness". That is when they began to receive The Gospel on national scales, fulfilling God's prophecy that He would take the names of Baali out of their mouths, and begin to call Him "Ishi", and give them a New Covenant (i.e., The Gospel of Jesus Christ).

Apostle Paul in Romans 9 quoted from Hosea to believing Gentile Romans, the part in Hosea where those who weren't under God's mercy obtained mercy and became known as the children of God. So the final result of the ten lost tribes as God's children is to include the believing Gentiles with them. By that Apostle Paul is also pointing to the lost ten tribes scattered to the west in Europe, since that Message was to Romans.

 

[Heart2Soul]

What you've read there in the Book of Hosea is about the northern ten lost tribes of Israel.

God split old Israel in Solomon's day into two separate kingdoms (1 Kings 11). He setup Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim over the ten northern tribes, as that northern kingdom only was then known as Israel (called the "house of Israel" or "kingdom of Israel" in God's Word).

God scattered those ten tribes out of the northern holy land first, never to return as a people. They lost their heritage as the larger part of Israel. They lost knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, etc. But the "house of Judah" didn't, but kept their heritage as Israel, etc.

There are certain artifacts, like the Jehu steele, a stone with ancient Assyria inscriptions, which point to what the Assyrians called king Omri, a king over the ten northern tribes. It is one of the sources of the name Khumri. And in the 1930's, linguist professor Leroy Waterman of the University of Michigan translated names the Assyrians used for lost Israel, and it was linked to the Cimmerians (the 'C' pronounced like a 'K').

The Cimmerian tribes the study of Anthropology well knows of. The Cimmerians and Scythians were the Caucasian peoples that migrated from the east into Asia Minor and Europe, and formed the majority in the western nations, that would later become the western Christian nations. These Cimmerians made up the Celts, Franks, Normans, Gauls, Norsk, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Germani, peoples, basically the peoples that crossed the Caucasus Mountains above the Black Sea and became known as Caucasians.

When they migrated into Asia Minor and Europe, they brought their Baal idols with them which was the reason why God scattered the ten tribes in the first place. Each different region of the peoples in the west had their own Baal gods, etc., like Apollo, Jupiter, Odin, Mars, Zeus, etc., etc. Then when it was time, our Heavenly Father sent His Son to the Jews in Jerusalem first Whom they rejected, and after the Passion of Christ, The Gospel then went to these scattered tribes among the Gentiles in that "wilderness". That is when they began to receive The Gospel on national scales, fulfilling God's prophecy that He would take the names of Baali out of their mouths, and begin to call Him "Ishi", and give them a New Covenant (i.e., The Gospel of Jesus Christ).

Apostle Paul in Romans 9 quoted from Hosea to believing Gentile Romans, the part in Hosea where those who weren't under God's mercy obtained mercy and became known as the children of God. So the final result of the ten lost tribes as God's children is to include the believing Gentiles with them. By that Apostle Paul is also pointing to the lost ten tribes scattered to the west in Europe, since that Message was to Romans.

Love your research on this. I was never much of a history buff but lately I have become very interested in biblical history.