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Some people feel the Law can never be changed, even to the crossing of a “t” or the dotting of an “i.” Those who believe this will be shocked at what the Bible says. The Law of God can be changed and parts abolished if God so desires. This is Progressive Revelation in action.
That's true the law can never be changed! Luke 16:17 reads:
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."
And,
Revelation 22:18-19 reads:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

Why do you say Adam was created Good? With out sin...Yes.... Good....Not even Jesus would accept this claim and Jesus is the last Adam...
Because God, as the Author of the Bible, says so. Genesis 1:31 reads: "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

To God Be The Glory
 

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Some people feel the Law can never be changed, even to the crossing of a “t” or the dotting of an “i.” Those who believe this will be shocked at what the Bible says. The Law of God can be changed and parts abolished if God so desires. This is Progressive Revelation in action.

The Law of God Starts in Genesis
To understand this matter clearly, we need to be reminded that when the apostle Paul talked about the Law of God, he plainly stated that Christians were no longer “under the law.” He then gave an illustration from that Law, of Sarah and Hagar recorded in Genesis (Galatians 4:21–31). This reference of Paul to the Law was long before Moses established the Old Covenant at Mount Sinai. The Book of Genesis itself was reckoned by Jews and by biblical authorities as the first book of the Law. The Law of God, commands of God given to man, begins with the first chapters of Genesis, not with the twentieth chapter of the Book of Exodus where the Ten Commandments and subsidiary laws were given for the nation of Israel.

What is the very first Law of God found in Holy Scriptures? The first Law is found in Genesis 2:16–17, with both a positive and a negative command. It is,

“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, ‘Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil [bad], you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.’”

Genesis 2:16–17

In the period from Adam to Noah, there were a few other laws of God recorded in the Holy Scriptures. There were laws against
murder (Genesis 4:15, 23; 9:6),
immodesty (Genesis 9:23),
wrong marriages (Genesis 6:1–4), and
wickedness in general (Genesis 6:5).

The Vast Differences between the Patriarchal and Mosaic Legal Systems
Under the Abrahamic covenant, God allowed his people to offer sacrifices anywhere they pleased (Genesis 12:7, 35:1; Job 1:5). Moses changed this law by commanding only the family of Aaron to attend to the sacred rites (Exodus 40:1–16) and those sacrifices could only be offered on the altar in the Sanctuary (Deuteronomy 12:13–14).

Abraham planted a grove (or sacred tree) in Beersheba (Genesis 21:33), but under Moses the use of groves became prohibited (Exodus 34:14; 2 Chronicles 14:3; Isaiah 17:8).

Jacob set up a pillar (Genesis 28:18), but this was later forbidden by Moses (Deuteronomy 16:22, margin).

God said in the time of Noah: “Every moving thing [i.e., all animals] that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things” (Genesis 9:3), but with Moses only the beasts mentioned in Leviticus chapter 11 were allowed or disallowed.

There were no official feast days commanded in the time of Abraham, but with Moses, ordained festivals became required periods for attendance by all Israelite males (Leviticus 23).

There was no commanded Tithing at first. Tithing was not a law in the patriarchal period.

None of the patriarchs wore phylacteries (at least we have no record of such), but with Moses their use was commanded (Numbers 15:37–41).

The land did not have to rest every 7th year under the patriarchs (Genesis 41:34–35), but with Moses, the land rest was commanded (Leviticus 25:1–7).

Abraham married his half-sister with God’s full approval (Genesis 20:12), but this became illegal in the time of Moses (Leviticus 20:17).

Abraham was confederate with his Canaanite neighbors (Genesis 14:13), but no leagues with the Canaanites were allowed in the dispensation of Moses. Indeed, the Canaanites were to be exterminated (Deuteronomy 20:17–18).

There was also no commanded Sabbath law in the patriarchal period. However, in the time of Moses the Sabbath was first introduced as a law for Israelites to obey (Exodus 20:8; Nehemiah 9:14; Ezekiel 20:12) with stringent requirements that changed the very character of the 7th day of the week. Moses had now emerged on the scene and a profound change in religious essentials had come into existence for Israel.

The differences between the religious system of the patriarchs and that of Moses were dramatic. If a religious Israelite after the time of Moses could have been transported back to Abraham’s time and witnessed Abraham (not knowing who he was) performing his religious duties, he would have called him an unconverted heathen. And though it is made clear in the Scriptures that God knew Abraham “obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws” (Genesis 26:5), those laws (the Law of God in Abraham’s time) were very different from those later laws commanded to Moses and to the Israelites at Mount Sinai.

Indeed, for Abraham’s first 99 years of life he was not circumcised, later
he built altars anywhere he pleased,
he raised up groves,
he offered no lamb at Passover,
he kept no weekly Sabbath,
he attended no holy feasts,
he wore no phylacteries,
he married his half-sister,
kept no land sabbath [that is, no Sabbatical Years], and of all things
he was allied with the Canaanites.

What God did in the time of Moses was to rescind the religious requirements of the Patriarchal period in favor of stricter laws ordained in the time of Moses. The two religious systems were so completely different that if one were to mix the teachings together, utter contradiction and confusion would result. There is no compatibility at all between the two systems.

However, some people today are so conservative in their views that they will not allow God to establish new religious systems different from previous ones. They cannot believe God would ever change ritualistic or ceremonial teachings that He once gave to His people. In no way is this true biblical teaching. Certainly God does not change His mind in overall philosophical matters that dominate His character and personality (Malachi 3:6), but He most decidedly changed His own religious systems in the past when He saw fit.

The Law of God Versus the Law of Moses
There is a clever device many “Law-keepers” use to show distinction between other biblical laws and the Ten Commandments — which they feel are the basic constitution of God, and can never be changed or altered in any way. They differentiate some biblical laws into a category of being subsidiary laws, given to Moses as ritualistic actions to govern ancient Israel in their infancy. True, just after God gave the Ten Commandments to Israel, Moses recorded a number of other laws at the same time that directed the religious observances of Israel.

These other laws were given the title by some as the “Law of Moses.” Some separate them from the “Law of God” that the Ten Commandments is supposed to represent in an exclusive sense. They, by their own authority and without sanction from God, arrogantly state that some laws are superior to others.

Here again, people who assume such an interpretation are very wrong. Remember, the Holy Scriptures themselves tell us what represents the “Law of the Lord” (that is, “God’s Law”). The “Law of Moses” is called nothing less than the “Law of the Lord” in the New Testament itself, and this designation included the sacrifice of animals at the Temple in Jerusalem.

“And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him [Christ Jesus] to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord; And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.”

Luke 2:22–24

And to make sure that people did not distinguish between the Law of Moses and the Law of the Lord, Luke finally states:

“And when they [Joseph and Mary] had performed all things [animal sacrifices, etc.] according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.”

Luke 2:39

It is time to get rid of the absurd interpretation of the Law of Moses and the Law of the Lord are two different laws. Indeed, even the laws that governed Adam, Noah, and also the Patriarchs were the “Law of the Lord.” All these were “God’s Law” and to break even a minor law was equal in God’s eyes to breaking all the Law (James 2:10).

The whole ministry of Christ while He was in the flesh was not the new Christian message finally taught by Peter, John, and Paul. Christ’s earthly ministry and teachings were nothing more than the final application of the Law of God that existed from Adam to Moses, and then from the time of Christ before His crucifixion. It is most important that all who love the teachings of the Holy Scriptures understand this fact.​


What we find in the Bible is precisely what the apostle Paul taught — that the Bible is partitioned into various sections of doctrines and laws, and that some of those teachings and codes apply only to certain people and not to others. To appreciate and understand the Holy Scriptures properly, the apostle Paul said that we should be “rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). Yes, the Bible teachings should be “divided” (or partitioned) to know what parts pertain to us, and what parts are intended for others on the earth and not to us. Remember, in “dividing” the word of truth, one must do it “rightly” and not in a wrong way.

While every bit of the Bible is holy and inspired, some parts of Scripture no longer apply for those mature Christians who have advanced into spiritual adulthood in Christ. This is the simple teaching of the apostle Paul.
 

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Was post #18 copied -and-pasted from somewhere? I couldn't reply directly as it exceeded the character limit. I agree with it 100%
 

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It means open thine eyes and look around . More and more churches no longer correct that sin , or other sins .
Heck we got a lot of mainstream churches even putting rainbow flags up jim .
They call it hate if a true lamb tries to correct this behavoir . That is what it means jim .
Too many within the churches have swallowed the all inclusive rainbow pill jim .
Look around the social all inclusive gospel is taking over everything jim .
They setting up temples of all religoins and trying to find so called common ground jim .
And folks are buying the lie that all these religoins are serving the same GOD as we do JIM .
Look around its all over the places and getting worse jim .
WELL i am gonna expose it . I love the peoples and them wolves will be exposed as will their false doctrine .
LOL!!! The usual negative rant against those whom God has chosen! Why do you judge those whom God has accepted as His children?

Again (and again)... we are told by God and Jesus to love our neighbor as ourself. Why do you ignore God's clear instruction???

All you do is post hatred and intolerance! Why don't you pay attention to what Jesus said about LGBTQs -- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
 

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Some people feel the Law can never be changed, even to the crossing of a “t” or the dotting of an “i.” Those who believe this will be shocked at what the Bible says. The Law of God can be changed and parts abolished if God so desires. This is Progressive Revelation in action.

The Law of God Starts in Genesis
To understand this matter clearly, we need to be reminded that when the apostle Paul talked about the Law of God, he plainly stated that Christians were no longer “under the law.” He then gave an illustration from that Law, of Sarah and Hagar recorded in Genesis (Galatians 4:21–31). This reference of Paul to the Law was long before Moses established the Old Covenant at Mount Sinai. The Book of Genesis itself was reckoned by Jews and by biblical authorities as the first book of the Law. The Law of God, commands of God given to man, begins with the first chapters of Genesis, not with the twentieth chapter of the Book of Exodus where the Ten Commandments and subsidiary laws were given for the nation of Israel.

What is the very first Law of God found in Holy Scriptures? The first Law is found in Genesis 2:16–17, with both a positive and a negative command. It is,

“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, ‘Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil [bad], you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.’”
Genesis 2:16–17
In the period from Adam to Noah, there were a few other laws of God recorded in the Holy Scriptures. There were laws against
murder (Genesis 4:15, 23; 9:6),
immodesty (Genesis 9:23),
wrong marriages (Genesis 6:1–4), and
wickedness in general (Genesis 6:5).

The Vast Differences between the Patriarchal and Mosaic Legal Systems
Under the Abrahamic covenant, God allowed his people to offer sacrifices anywhere they pleased (Genesis 12:7, 35:1; Job 1:5). Moses changed this law by commanding only the family of Aaron to attend to the sacred rites (Exodus 40:1–16) and those sacrifices could only be offered on the altar in the Sanctuary (Deuteronomy 12:13–14).

Abraham planted a grove (or sacred tree) in Beersheba (Genesis 21:33), but under Moses the use of groves became prohibited (Exodus 34:14; 2 Chronicles 14:3; Isaiah 17:8).

Jacob set up a pillar (Genesis 28:18), but this was later forbidden by Moses (Deuteronomy 16:22, margin).

God said in the time of Noah: “Every moving thing [i.e., all animals] that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things” (Genesis 9:3), but with Moses only the beasts mentioned in Leviticus chapter 11 were allowed or disallowed.

There were no official feast days commanded in the time of Abraham, but with Moses, ordained festivals became required periods for attendance by all Israelite males (Leviticus 23).

There was no commanded Tithing at first. Tithing was not a law in the patriarchal period.

None of the patriarchs wore phylacteries (at least we have no record of such), but with Moses their use was commanded (Numbers 15:37–41).

The land did not have to rest every 7th year under the patriarchs (Genesis 41:34–35), but with Moses, the land rest was commanded (Leviticus 25:1–7).

Abraham married his half-sister with God’s full approval (Genesis 20:12), but this became illegal in the time of Moses (Leviticus 20:17).

Abraham was confederate with his Canaanite neighbors (Genesis 14:13), but no leagues with the Canaanites were allowed in the dispensation of Moses. Indeed, the Canaanites were to be exterminated (Deuteronomy 20:17–18).

There was also no commanded Sabbath law in the patriarchal period. However, in the time of Moses the Sabbath was first introduced as a law for Israelites to obey (Exodus 20:8; Nehemiah 9:14; Ezekiel 20:12) with stringent requirements that changed the very character of the 7th day of the week. Moses had now emerged on the scene and a profound change in religious essentials had come into existence for Israel.

The differences between the religious system of the patriarchs and that of Moses were dramatic. If a religious Israelite after the time of Moses could have been transported back to Abraham’s time and witnessed Abraham (not knowing who he was) performing his religious duties, he would have called him an unconverted heathen. And though it is made clear in the Scriptures that God knew Abraham “obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws” (Genesis 26:5), those laws (the Law of God in Abraham’s time) were very different from those later laws commanded to Moses and to the Israelites at Mount Sinai.

Indeed, for Abraham’s first 99 years of life he was not circumcised, later
he built altars anywhere he pleased,
he raised up groves,
he offered no lamb at Passover,
he kept no weekly Sabbath,
he attended no holy feasts,
he wore no phylacteries,
he married his half-sister,
kept no land sabbath [that is, no Sabbatical Years], and of all things
he was allied with the Canaanites.

What God did in the time of Moses was to rescind the religious requirements of the Patriarchal period in favor of stricter laws ordained in the time of Moses. The two religious systems were so completely different that if one were to mix the teachings together, utter contradiction and confusion would result. There is no compatibility at all between the two systems.

However, some people today are so conservative in their views that they will not allow God to establish new religious systems different from previous ones. They cannot believe God would ever change ritualistic or ceremonial teachings that He once gave to His people. In no way is this true biblical teaching. Certainly God does not change His mind in overall philosophical matters that dominate His character and personality (Malachi 3:6), but He most decidedly changed His own religious systems in the past when He saw fit.

The Law of God Versus the Law of Moses
There is a clever device many “Law-keepers” use to show distinction between other biblical laws and the Ten Commandments — which they feel are the basic constitution of God, and can never be changed or altered in any way. They differentiate some biblical laws into a category of being subsidiary laws, given to Moses as ritualistic actions to govern ancient Israel in their infancy. True, just after God gave the Ten Commandments to Israel, Moses recorded a number of other laws at the same time that directed the religious observances of Israel.

These other laws were given the title by some as the “Law of Moses.” Some separate them from the “Law of God” that the Ten Commandments is supposed to represent in an exclusive sense. They, by their own authority and without sanction from God, arrogantly state that some laws are superior to others.

Pierac--

Unless you happen to be Earnest L. Martin himself, you are clearly plagarizing his work.

Which is it? If you copy and paste material that isn't your own, you need to cite the source.

Of course, ELM died about 20 years ago, so my question was rhetorical.
 

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LOL!!! The usual negative rant against those whom God has chosen! Why do you judge those whom God has accepted as His children?

Again (and again)... we are told by God and Jesus to love our neighbor as ourself. Why do you ignore God's clear instruction???

All you do is post hatred and intolerance! Why don't you pay attention to what Jesus said about LGBTQs -- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
Again you shall love you neighbor as yourself .
You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart Jim . You shall in any way rebuke , correct them and not alow sin upon them .
To warn against sin aint hate jim . to warn against false teachers aint sin jim .
All you do is post hate and intolerance , hate against those who do love and would correct
intolerance against those who do love and would correct . YET your love seems to tolerate that which ends in death .
YOu all can tolerate the all inclusive rainbow and lets gays die in their sin . NO LOVE IN THAT JIM
You all can tolerate the love that has made the road to GOD HUGE , aint no love in that jim .
 

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Again you shall love you neighbor as yourself .
You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart Jim . You shall in any way rebuke , correct them and not alow sin upon them .
To warn against sin aint hate jim . to warn against false teachers aint sin jim .
All you do is post hate and intolerance , hate against those who do love and would correct
intolerance against those who do love and would correct . YET your love seems to tolerate that which ends in death .
YOu all can tolerate the all inclusive rainbow and lets gays die in their sin . NO LOVE IN THAT JIM
You all can tolerate the love that has made the road to GOD HUGE , aint no love in that jim .

Jimmy is likely an 80 year old man trapped in teenage simplicity. Like a 17 year old with a fake ID, thinking he's fooling folks.
 

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It means open thine eyes and look around . More and more churches no longer correct that sin , or other sins .
Heck we got a lot of mainstream churches even putting rainbow flags up jim .
They call it hate if a true lamb tries to correct this behavoir . That is what it means jim .
Too many within the churches have swallowed the all inclusive rainbow pill jim .
Look around the social all inclusive gospel is taking over everything jim .
They setting up temples of all religoins and trying to find so called common ground jim .
And folks are buying the lie that all these religoins are serving the same GOD as we do JIM .
Look around its all over the places and getting worse jim .
WELL i am gonna expose it . I love the peoples and them wolves will be exposed as will their false doctrine .
LOL! This is just utter nonsense!

As usual, you are setting yourself up as the judge of other Christians. Who appointed you to be the judge of the body of Christ?

How can you possibly justify making this statement: More and more churches no longer correct that sin , or other sins ." ? Have you actually attended "more and more churches" and heard that they don't correct sin? You are living in a fantasy world, then post dishonesty!

You're not a "true lamb"; you are setting yourself up as the shepherd. That is delusional! As is "I love the peoples [by condemning them???] and them wolves [careless English] will be exposed as will their false doctrine ."

You are deluded by your imagined self-importance and your posts are semi-literate.

And in your preaching you can't even spell "religions".
 

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Again you shall love you neighbor as yourself .
You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart Jim . You shall in any way rebuke , correct them and not alow sin upon them .
To warn against sin aint hate jim . to warn against false teachers aint sin jim .
All you do is post hate and intolerance , hate against those who do love and would correct
intolerance against those who do love and would correct . YET your love seems to tolerate that which ends in death .
YOu all can tolerate the all inclusive rainbow and lets gays die in their sin . NO LOVE IN THAT JIM
You all can tolerate the love that has made the road to GOD HUGE , aint no love in that jim .
You are actually writing "You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart Jim . You shall in any way rebuke , correct them and not alow sin upon them ." All you do is preach hatred and intolerance. And it is not up to you to "alow [sic] sin upon them". Not only can't you even spell "allow", but you're not God!!!

Finally, when you write anti-Christian crap like "YET your love seems to tolerate that which ends in death", I might (again) remind you of John 3:16-18, "For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God."

How can anyone, including yourself, read these words, then set themselves up as the judge of other people, including LGBTQs? God loves the world, you judge the world. Everyone who believes in him -- Christians, including LGBTQs -- will not perish but have everlasting life. (I know you, in your self-righteous delusion, wish it otherwise).

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world. But you, in your delusion, deny Jesus by condemning LGBTQs and others! That is anti-Christian defiance of the Lord!

You had better stop trying to combat the Lord, judging and condemning those who He loves! You are speaking for Satan!!!
 

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LOL! This is just utter nonsense!

As usual, you are setting yourself up as the judge of other Christians. Who appointed you to be the judge of the body of Christ?

How can you possibly justify making this statement: More and more churches no longer correct that sin , or other sins ." ? Have you actually attended "more and more churches" and heard that they don't correct sin? You are living in a fantasy world, then post dishonesty!

You're not a "true lamb"; you are setting yourself up as the shepherd. That is delusional! As is "I love the peoples [by condemning them???] and them wolves [careless English] will be exposed as will their false doctrine ."

You are deluded by your imagined self-importance and your posts are semi-literate.

And in your preaching you can't even spell "religions".
Is there anything that is impossible for God--and here you are ridiculing a brother re his literacy--God can use a donkey to spread the good news if we are to remain silent.

Rude in speech (idiōtēs tōi logōi). Locative case with idiōtēs for which word see note on Act_4:13; note on 1Co_14:16, note on 1Co_14:23, and 1Co_14:24. The Greeks regarded a man as idiōtēs who just attended to his own affairs (ta idia) and took no part in public life. Paul admits that he is not a professional orator (cf. 2Co_10:10), but denies that he is unskilled in knowledge (all' ou tēi gnōsei).
Robertson



1) "But though I be rude in speech," (ei de kai idiotes to logo) "But if indeed I am unskilled (an idiot) in speech," have not the vocal, articulate, and rhetoric training that certain of his accusers may have had, 1Co_2:1-4; 2Co_10:10.

Act 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.



unlearned = illiterate. Greek. agrammatos. Only here. Compare Joh_7:15.

ignorant = obscure. Greek. idiotes. Literally private, i.e. unprofessional. Only here, 1Co_14:16, 1Co_14:23, 1Co_14:24; 2Co_11:6.


Stop with your ad hominem attacks on @amigo de christo Jim--he is a great encourager to the weary and worn out pilgrims in this celestial race
 
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Is there anything that is impossible for God--and here you are ridiculing a brother re his literacy--God can use a donkey to spread the good news if we are to remain silent.

Rude in speech (idiōtēs tōi logōi). Locative case with idiōtēs for which word see note on Act_4:13; note on 1Co_14:16, note on 1Co_14:23, and 1Co_14:24. The Greeks regarded a man as idiōtēs who just attended to his own affairs (ta idia) and took no part in public life. Paul admits that he is not a professional orator (cf. 2Co_10:10), but denies that he is unskilled in knowledge (all' ou tēi gnōsei).
Robertson


1) "But though I be rude in speech," (ei de kai idiotes to logo) "But if indeed I am unskilled (an idiot) in speech," have not the vocal, articulate, and rhetoric training that certain of his accusers may have had, 1Co_2:1-4; 2Co_10:10.

Act 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.



unlearned = illiterate. Greek. agrammatos. Only here. Compare Joh_7:15.

ignorant = obscure. Greek. idiotes. Literally private, i.e. unprofessional. Only here, 1Co_14:16, 1Co_14:23, 1Co_14:24; 2Co_11:6.


Stop with your ad hominem attacks on @amigo de christo Jim--he is a great encourager to the weary and worn out pilgrims in this celestial race
He is a chronic condemner of all Christians who do not ascribe to his personal idea of Christianity. Jesus said to love our neighbor as ourself, yet all he does is condemn his brothers and sisters in Christ.

He is not "a great encourager to the weary and worn out pilgrims in this celestial race". He is a latter-day Pharisee who will one day have to answer for his chronic judgment of those whom Christ has accepted.
 

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He is not "a great encourager to the weary and worn out pilgrims in this celestial race". He is a latter-day Pharisee who will one day have to answer for his chronic judgment of those whom Christ has accepted.
Is this the same @amigo de christo that I have come to know--a great encourager and always, like Yochanan the Baptist, show others TO Christ, and not himself?

I have decided to join him and his "Perushim-ical" gospel and it is Christ who is our Judge for it is appointed once for men to die and after that the judgement.
What you are doing is belittling him, refusing him to contribute because of his illiteracy--your words, and personally, I think God is looking on him with favor.

So, I am steeling myself for what is coming from you to me.
J.
 

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Is this the same @amigo de christo that I have come to know--a great encourager and always, like Yochanan the Baptist, show others TO Christ, and not himself?

I have decided to join him and his "Perushim-ical" gospel and it is Christ who is our Judge for it is appointed once for men to die and after that the judgement.
What you are doing is belittling him, refusing him to contribute because of his illiteracy--your words, and personally, I think God is looking on him with favor.

So, I am steeling myself for what is coming from you to me.
J.
"amigo de christo" is a chronic judge of the body of Christ, regularly criticizing them and their congregations for not adhering to his personal idea of Christianity. Rarely (if ever) does he have anything positive to say about those whom Christ loves and has accepted as His own. As you correctly wrote, "it is Christ who is our Judge", not "amigo de christo". BTW, that is clearly a false description. If he was a friend of Christ, he would not villify the church -- Christ's body -- over and over and over and over, ad nauseum.

And he is not illiterate. He is simply careless, preferring to type sloppy messages, full of grammatical and spelling errors. He doesn't even care enough to communicate clearly, even though he knows better.

I will continue to speak my mind.
 

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Again you shall love you neighbor as yourself .
You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart Jim . You shall in any way rebuke , correct them and not alow sin upon them .
To warn against sin aint hate jim . to warn against false teachers aint sin jim .
All you do is post hate and intolerance , hate against those who do love and would correct
intolerance against those who do love and would correct . YET your love seems to tolerate that which ends in death .
YOu all can tolerate the all inclusive rainbow and lets gays die in their sin . NO LOVE IN THAT JIM
You all can tolerate the love that has made the road to GOD HUGE , aint no love in that jim .
This is just absurd! You clearly do not love your neighbor as yourself. In fact, you take any and every opportunity to express hatred of your neighbor, including those who Jesus has accepted. In other words, you are opposing those whom Jesus calls His brothers and sisters.

And you actually write "All you do is post hate and intolerance". You are the one who constantly spews hate and intolerance, not only of those outside the church, but those whom Christ has accepted!!!

AND DON'T LECTURE ME ON LOVING OTHERS!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS!!! YOU ARE FILLED WITH INTOLERANCE AND HATRED OF OTHERS, INCLUDING CHRISTIANS (WHOM JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HAS ACCEPTED AS HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS).

YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER PERSONALLY TO THE LORD FOR JUDGING HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!
 

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This is just absurd! You clearly do not love your neighbor as yourself. In fact, you take any and every opportunity to express hatred of your neighbor, including those who Jesus has accepted. In other words, you are opposing those whom Jesus calls His brothers and sisters.

And you actually write "All you do is post hate and intolerance". You are the one who constantly spews hate and intolerance, not only of those outside the church, but those whom Christ has accepted!!!

AND DON'T LECTURE ME ON LOVING OTHERS!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS!!! YOU ARE FILLED WITH INTOLERANCE AND HATRED OF OTHERS, INCLUDING CHRISTIANS (WHOM JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HAS ACCEPTED AS HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS).

YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER PERSONALLY TO THE LORD FOR JUDGING HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!
Jim , that quoate i keep giving about not hating your neighbor in your heart
that you shall correct ,rebuke them in any wise and not allow sin upon them . IT comes FROM GOD HIMSELF .
Its in the bible .
 

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Jim , that quoate i keep giving about not hating your neighbor in your heart
that you shall correct ,rebuke them in any wise and not allow sin upon them . IT comes FROM GOD HIMSELF .
Its in the bible .
Satan also quoted the Bible. You are just giving yourself an excuse to judge others, including other Christians.
 

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This is just absurd! You clearly do not love your neighbor as yourself. In fact, you take any and every opportunity to express hatred of your neighbor, including those who Jesus has accepted. In other words, you are opposing those whom Jesus calls His brothers and sisters.

And you actually write "All you do is post hate and intolerance". You are the one who constantly spews hate and intolerance, not only of those outside the church, but those whom Christ has accepted!!!

AND DON'T LECTURE ME ON LOVING OTHERS!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS!!! YOU ARE FILLED WITH INTOLERANCE AND HATRED OF OTHERS, INCLUDING CHRISTIANS (WHOM JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HAS ACCEPTED AS HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS).

YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER PERSONALLY TO THE LORD FOR JUDGING HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!
Go easy on another brother/sister Jim--enough of reading this, tell you what, rebuke me and leave @amigo de christo alone.
 

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Go easy on another brother/sister Jim--enough of reading this, tell you what, rebuke me and leave @amigo de christo alone.
I will not leave @amigo de christo alone until he stops vilifying others whom Christ has accepted. He rationalizes his behavior as loving correction, but it is clearly nothing but an excuse for self-righteous attacks on others.
 

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Satan also quoted the Bible. You are just giving yourself an excuse to judge others, including other Christians.
satan sure can quoate the bible . I watch his ministirs twist it all the time .
preaching a false love that wont correct , that simply allows anyone with a voice to get up
and lead people astray . Not on my watch .
Those who love dont let the church drown in sins .
Like paul once wrote , let him that STOLE steal no more .
YET i bet if i got up and said let him that once supported the dark rainbow , do so no more .
YOU would call that judging .
SEE , certain sins are getting a pass .
IF i said do not murder , most folks would have no problem .
IF i say dont commit abortion , THEN WE GOT a problem .
This all inclusive social gospel has tanked every place it has set up camp within .
ME is gonna expose it and those who teach it . cause i actually DO Love the brethren .
We dont just sit and hug folks into darkness and error . We warn and remind the brethren .
Do try and remember that . It aint judging to say , murderers , fornicators , homosexuals and etc
WONT inherit the KINGDOM of heaven .
I dont know how long its gonna take some to figure out that their overlooking leaven
and not correcting , AINT HELPING the church , ITS DESTROYING the church .
 
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