I have my doubts that Catholicism is Christianity

[Ronald Nolette]

Really – because YOU said so?

No because that is what is written!

If you’re not a Catholic – I GUARANTEE that you don’t “adhere” to their teachings because the Bible is your only Authority.

Correct for it is the Word of God and not some ex-Cathedra pontifications from a self proclaimed ponticius maximun Vicarius Christi, that is profitable for doctrine. When the Catholic Church agrees with Gods word (which they it is) I say Amen, when it disagrees, I resist it with all I have.

Show in Acts 1:20 where it differentiates the office of Bishop from Apostle.

In fact – show me ANY verse that does

Well here is your problem. You do not understand bishop was merely an overseer- a pastor of a local assembly. They are also called shepherds and elders as well. It was Romanism that made men bishops or rulers over a district or region. Then came cardinals etc.

A bishoprick was an office of overseeing. The apostles held offices, but so didn't the pastors of all the local assemblies hold bishoporcks as pastors not a Roman styled Bishop whom you claim are Apostles .

But the offiuce of Apostle died with JOhn at the end of teh first century. The foundation of the church was laid down and since then we have been building the habitation of God on that A[postolic and Jesus foundation.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Scripture penned by Paul are less important than other parts of the bible

Many of today's false teachers claim all biblical writers should be ignored except for Paul.

Then they falsely claim Jesus Christ should be ignored because their demonic claim is Jesus taught the law to the Jews and Jesus's teachings are not for Christians.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

In the end, people following this false gospel will not be found in the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ.

These people love to get in the internet and spread their demonic doctrine

 

[nedsk]

You did in post 324

You did in post 324

No I didnt. I said equivalent.

equivalent

adjective
equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.

Four quarters is equivalent to a $1 bill but they aren't the same. Equal in value just like the definition says but not in likeness.

 

[Taken]

Which doctrines are IN direct Contradiction to Gods Word...

A few examples;

Praying FOR saints… IS Gods Direction.
Praying TO saints….. IS mans Corruption.

Eph 6:
[18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Calling God your Father…IS Gods Direction.
Calling men Father………..IS mans Corruption.

Matt. 23:
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

No Bowing down to statues…IS Gods Direction.
Erecting and Bowing down to Statues…IS mans corruption.

Lev.26:
[1] Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

How about the real presence of Jesus body, blood, soul and divinity in the Eucharist?

What about it?

 

[nedsk]

A few examples;

Praying FOR saints… IS Gods Direction.
Praying TO saints….. IS mans Corruption.

Eph 6:
[18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Calling God your Father…IS Gods Direction.
Calling men Father………..IS mans Corruption.

Matt. 23:
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

No Bowing down to statues…IS Gods Direction.
Erecting and Bowing down to Statues…IS mans corruption.

Lev.26:
[1] Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.



What about it?

So what do or did you call your male parent? Please don't try to tell me you never called him father. You cowboys get tiring.

You mean like in numbers 21:6-9. Stop your nonsense

What about it? You ignore Jesus unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood. You people with your solas and your magic incantations. The think anyone needs is to be preached at by you folks.

 

[nedsk]

One of the more famous man made False MaryCult doctrines is that Mary ascended to heaven, in Her Dead BODY.

"""""""known as the Dormition of the Mother of God, is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states Mary, the mother of Jesus, was assumed, BODY.... and soul, into heaven at the end of her earthly life. """""

So, if the Dogma of "Mary's assumption into heaven, BODY and Soul"......is taugth to all Catholics as TRUTH.....then why is the The preserved skull of Mary Magdalene (The MaryCult claims) =m found at the Basilica of Saint-Maximin-la-Sainte-Baume in Southern France.


A.) Because all of this "Mary Adoration" and "Mary Doctrie" is a LIE.....is a LIE....Is a LIE.

Now, in the 2 Photos below, the Catholic Church states that it has The Virgin Mary's HEAD.....(Skull) that was collected as a RELIC for the MaryCult, currently located : at the Basilica of Saint-Maximin-la-Sainte-Baume in Southern France.


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who.has claimed Mary Magdalene was assumed into heaven. You need to get out of the sun boy. You're delirious

 

[Behold]

who.has claimed Mary Magdalene was assumed into heaven.

Yes. Thank you.
I revised my post.

The Photos I posted to you do indeed show an old human skull, that is collected by the MaryCult, which is purported to be the skull of Mary Magdelene.

The Cult of the Virgin", is into "RELICS".. They love antiquity related to past dead Saints, and so forth.

How much do they love gathering "relics'?
This "Cult of the Virgin" will exhume (dig up) a dead Christian, whom they defined as a canonized "SAINT".., and they will have a surgeon take parts of the body, as "relics"..to collect., like you would collect stamps or coins.
This "cult of the Virgin" collects human parts...as found "inside the body".. such as "pieces of a the dead SAINT's thigh"... They will take parts of the Body of a Saint they "dug up", and sometimes "dug up" a few times, as in the case of St Bernadette, and get some more pieces of their body, that they want to keep.
Regarding Bernadette, the 2nd or 3 time they "exhumed her" from the grave, they opened her up because they wanted to collect some of her internal organs, as "RELICS" but this was not possible.

They call these : "RELICS".
Im assuming the more famous body parts that have been removed from the more famous Catholic Saints, are in "The Vatican".
However, the purported head of Mary Magdelene, is not located in the Vatican.....at this time.
Perhaps its on loan, on Tour.

What is the really? Its Pagan behavior.,.... pretending to be """of God""".

Can you imagine Jesus The Christ cutting off a part of some Apostle's dead body, to collect it?

So, WELCOME to "the cult of the Virgin".

The "foot" below, a "Catholic Relic".. they claim is the foot of Mary Magdelene.
So, they have collected her Head and her Foot.....they claim....

This vile collecting of dead body parts......... is not of God......its of the Occult.
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[Taken]

So what do or did you call your male parent? Please don't try to tell me you never called him father. You cowboys get tiring.

If I AM “calling my dad, my mom”, I am “Speaking TO THEM”…
Dad, Mom, is what I would “Call” them.

If I were speaking “ABOUT them”, (“ I am NOT Calling THEM”)… their identity of Dad, Mom, Their Name, Their Title of MR. / Mrs. would be sufficiently appropriate.

You mean like in numbers 21:6-9. Stop your nonsense

What about it?

Uh huh. Your wondering, without making your point. Vague.

You ignore Jesus unless you eat his flesh

And? When did I address that topic or point with you?

and drink his blood.

And ? What do you think Jesus Flesh and Blood “IS”?
Human flesh?
Human Blood?

Scripture notifies us…
Flesh is a body’s outer visible covering.
Blood is the Life of the Body.
Jesus’ Flesh and Blood IS Gods Word, God Prepared For “Gods Word” which came forth out of Gods Mouth, And was MADE in the “likeness” / “appearance” as a human Man, For Human men TO SEE and Hear.
* Eating Jesus’ Flesh…IS a man Eating Gods Word!
* Drinking Jesus’ Blood…IS a man consenting to receiving Gods Offering Of “Spiritual Life” from God.

You didn’t think a “Spiritual Event” was about a human Dining on Tangible Flesh and Blood…did you?

You people with your solas and your magic incantations. The think anyone needs is to be preached at by you folks.

Magic is for intent to fool a person via entertainment. Equating a Spiritual event with Magic, simply reveals your inability to have a meaning conversation regarding the seriousness of a Spiritual Offering from God and How to Receive Gods Offering.

 

[nedsk]

Yes. Thank you.
I revised my post.

The Photos I posted to you do indeed show an old human skull, that is collected by the MaryCult, which is purported to be the skull of Mary Magdelene.

The Cult of the Virgin", is into "RELICS".. They love antiquity related to past dead Saints, and so forth.

How much do they love gathering "relics'?
This "Cult of the Virgin" will exhume (dig up) a dead Christian, whom they defined as a canonized "SAINT".., and they will have a surgeon take parts of the body, as "relics"..to collect., like you would collect stamps or coins.
This "cult of the Virgin" collects human parts...as found "inside the body".. such as "pieces of a the dead SAINT's thigh"... They will take parts of the Body of a Saint they "dug up", and sometimes "dug up" a few times, as in the case of St Bernadette, and get some more pieces of their body, that they want to keep.
Regarding Bernadette, the 2nd or 3 time they "exhumed her" from the grave, they opened her up because they wanted to collect some of her internal organs, as "RELICS" but this was not possible.

They call these : "RELICS".
Im assuming the more famous body parts that have been removed from the more famous Catholic Saints, are in "The Vatican".
However, the purported head of Mary Magdelene, is not located in the Vatican.....at this time.
Perhaps its on loan, on Tour.

What is the really? Its Pagan behavior.,.... pretending to be """of God""".

Can you imagine Jesus The Christ cutting off a part of some Apostle's dead body, to collect it?

So, WELCOME to "the cult of the Virgin".

The "foot" below, a "Catholic Relic".. they claim is the foot of Mary Magdelene.
So, they have collected her Head and her Foot.....they claim....

This vile collecting of dead body parts......... is not of God......its of the Occult.
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You didn't answer the question. Who has claimed that Mary Madelene was assumed into heaven?

If I AM “calling my dad, my mom”, I am “Speaking TO THEM”…
Dad, Mom, is what I would “Call” them.

If I were speaking “ABOUT them”, (“ I am NOT Calling THEM”)… their identity of Dad, Mom, Their Name, Their Title of MR. / Mrs. would be sufficiently appropriate.

Uh huh. Your wondering, without making your point. Vague.

And? When did I address that topic or point with you?

And ? What do you think Jesus Flesh and Blood “IS”?
Human flesh?
Human Blood?

Scripture notifies us…
Flesh is a body’s outer visible covering.
Blood is the Life of the Body.
Jesus’ Flesh and Blood IS Gods Word, God Prepared For “Gods Word” which came forth out of Gods Mouth, And was MADE in the “likeness” / “appearance” as a human Man, For Human men TO SEE and Hear.
* Eating Jesus’ Flesh…IS a man Eating Gods Word!
* Drinking Jesus’ Blood…IS a man consenting to receiving Gods Offering Of “Spiritual Life” from God.

You didn’t think a “Spiritual Event” was about a human Dining on Tangible Flesh and Blood…did you?


Magic is for intent to fool a person via entertainment. Equating a Spiritual event with Magic, simply reveals your inability to have a meaning conversation regarding the seriousness of a Spiritual Offering from God and How to Receive Gods Offering.

So you call your male parent your father. You people are amazing.

Jesus flesh and blood is NOT his words. John 6 verses 53, 54, 55 and 56 Jesus says flesh and blood NOT bread NOT my word and NOT have faith in me.

In verse 60 Jesus ask "Does this shock you?" NOT why does this shock you? Jesus knew exactly why they shocked. They were shocked just like you but like a lot of you you pretend Jesus couldn't have meant what he said.

 

[Behold]

You didn't answer the question. Who has claimed that Mary Madelene was assumed into heaven?

Noone...... so that is why i revised the post to reflect Mary Magdelene's (supposed) dead skull being collected by the MaryCult.
Notice that the revision only deals with the "occult" issue that is deeply seated within the MaryCult, that defines this obsession with collecting dead body parts.



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@nedsk said........""""""So you call your male parent your father. You people are amazing."""""

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I dont.
I can't speak for the other members.

Jesus flesh and blood is NOT his words. John 6 verses 53, 54, 55 and 56 Jesus says flesh and blood NOT bread NOT my word and NOT have faith in me.

Jesus's flesh and blood is what He literally offered as John 3:16.

However this is not a piece of bread or a glass of wine shoved into your mouth by someone.

Communion is a spiritual worship via rembrance of what Jesus has offered to us, as our salvaiton.

 

[NotTheRock]

MacArthur makes a strong argument against Catholicism.

 

[nedsk]

Noone...... so that is why i revised the post to reflect Mary Magdelene's (supposed) dead skull being collected by the MaryCult.
Notice that the revision only deals with the "occult" issue that is deeply seated within the MaryCult, that defines this obsession with collecting dead body parts.



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@nedsk said........""""""So you call your male parent your father. You people are amazing."""""

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I dont.
I can't speak for the other members.



Jesus's flesh and blood is what He literally offered as John 3:16.

However this is not a piece of bread or a glass of wine shoved into your mouth by someone.

Communion is a spiritual worship via rembrance of what Jesus has offered to us, as our salvaiton.

Noone...... so that is why i revised the post to reflect Mary Magdelene's (supposed) dead skull being collected by the MaryCult.
Notice that the revision only deals with the "occult" issue that is deeply seated within the MaryCult, that defines this obsession with collecting dead body parts.



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@nedsk said........""""""So you call your male parent your father. You people are amazing."""""

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I dont.
I can't speak for the other members.



Jesus's flesh and blood is what He literally offered as John 3:16.

However this is not a piece of bread or a glass of wine shoved into your mouth by someone.

Communion is a spiritual worship via rembrance of what Jesus has offered to us, as our salvaiton.

Too bad for you Jesus says otherwise as does Paul. You can't make something disappear by ignoring it.

 

[Behold]

Too bad for you Jesus says otherwise as does Paul.

Post a verse from any NT that says that dead body parts of dead people are to be collected and maintained by a church, and adored.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No I didnt. I said equivalent.

equivalent

adjective
equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.

Four quarters is equivalent to a $1 bill but they aren't the same. Equal in value just like the definition says but not in likeness.

So they are equal in value. same value just in a different form. you say tomahto, I say tomato. A bishop to you has the same power as the pope! He is equal in value according to you!

A bishop is equal in value to a pope
A bishop is equal in amount as a pope
a Bishop is equal infunction as a pope a bishop is equal in meaning as a pope
a Bishop is equal in etc. as a pope.

 

[nedsk]

Post a verse from any NT that says that dead body parts of dead people are to be collected and maintained by a church, and adored.

Post a verse from any NT that says that dead body parts of dead people are to be collected and maintained by a church, and adored.

No Catholic is required to adore dead body parts.

Now as to what Jesus said that's entirely different matter. If you care to address that we can talk. You people just drone on about stuff you only know about because someone else told you want to think. But I suspect you can't let it go because the words of Jesus scare you too much.

 

[Taken]

You didn't answer the question. Who has claimed that Mary Madelene was assumed into heaven?

So you call your male parent your father. You people are amazing.

Jesus flesh and blood is NOT his words. John 6 verses 53, 54, 55 and 56 Jesus says flesh and blood NOT bread NOT my word and NOT have faith in me.

In verse 60 Jesus ask "Does this shock you?" NOT why does this shock you? Jesus knew exactly why they shocked. They were shocked just like you but like a lot of you you pretend Jesus couldn't have meant what he said.

So you call your male parent your father.

Gaslighter, I did not say that.

You people are amazing.

Thank you. It is glory unto God for His having given me The ability for Natural Secular Understanding regarding the ROLE a Natural SEED in the Human relationship of Father and Offspring…
AND
His Gift of Spiritual Understanding regarding a Spiritual SEED in the Spiritual relationship of Father and Offspring…

Jesus flesh and blood is NOT his words.

Jesus’ Flesh IS the manifestation of Gods Word.
Jesus’ Blood IS the manifestation of The LIFE of Gods Word.

Foretold prophecy:
Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Prophecy Fulfilled:
John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Prophecy Verified:
Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Prophecy Accomplished:
Matt 3:
[17] And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Prophecy Accomplished:
John 19:
[28] After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

like you but like a lot of you you pretend Jesus couldn't have meant what he said.

Gaslighter, I said nothing whatsoever in denial of Jesus’ speech.

You are accountable for your False accusations.

 

[nedsk]

So they are equal in value. same value just in a different form. you say tomahto, I say tomato. A bishop to you has the same power as the pope! He is equal in value according to you!

A bishop is equal in value to a pope
A bishop is equal in amount as a pope
a Bishop is equal infunction as a pope a bishop is equal in meaning as a pope
a Bishop is equal in etc. as a pope.

First of all you said i claimed bishops are the same as apostle. I'm glad we agree I never said that.

Second you're now claiming I said bishops are the same as the Pope. You need to keep the all the wrong stuff you have in your head sorted out friend.

As to the bishop he is in charge of his diocese. The Pope doesn't tell the bishop what to do in his diocese unless the bishop goes off the rails but the bishop is subservient to the Pope. The Pope sits in the seat of Peters

 

[Ronald Nolette]

First of all you said i claimed bishops are the same as apostle. I'm glad we agree I never said that.

Second you're now claiming I said bishops are the same as the Pope. You need to keep the all the wrong stuff you have in your head sorted out friend.

As to the bishop he is in charge of his diocese. The Pope doesn't tell the bishop what to do in his diocese unless the bishop goes off the rails but the bishop is subservient to the Pope. The Pope sits in the seat of Peters

You rthe one who used equivalent and provided the definition. I just fleshed out the definition in regards to our discussion. You gave the evidence, I just used it.

 

[Behold]

No Catholic is required to adore dead body parts.

No true church of God is going to offer dead body parts to their people.
Understand?
This is Paganism and Occultism, that plays with dead things.....as a part of their worship.

God is the "God of the Living".....not of the Dead".

But I suspect you can't let it go because the words of Jesus scare you too much.

Water Baptism and Taking The Communion are the same...they are a "figure"......they are "symbolic".

How do you know they are not beyond this realm?.....Its because if you water baptise an unbeliever, this does not wash away their sin.
And if an unbeliever takes communion......this is not them "literally eating Jesus", no matter if its a MaryCult Priest putting the cookie in their mouth, or if i do it for you.

And you say......well, "what unbeliever would be water baptised or take the communion"...

A.) Millions of them, who have been taught by a "water cult".. that if they are water baptized then they are becoming a Christian.

And Millions of People take the Communion and confess to a Priest, because this makes them feel better.........and has nothing to do with them actually being a CHRISTIAN.

 

[nedsk]

Gaslighter, I did not say that.


Thank you. It is glory unto God for His having given me The ability for Natural Secular Understanding regarding the ROLE a Natural SEED in the Human relationship of Father and Offspring…
AND
His Gift of Spiritual Understanding regarding a Spiritual SEED in the Spiritual relationship of Father and Offspring…

Jesus’ Flesh IS the manifestation of Gods Word.
Jesus’ Blood IS the manifestation of The LIFE of Gods Word.

Foretold prophecy:
Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Prophecy Fulfilled:
John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Prophecy Verified:
Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Prophecy Accomplished:
Matt 3:
[17] And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Prophecy Accomplished:
John 19:
[28] After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.




Gaslighter, I said nothing whatsoever in denial of Jesus’ speech.

You are accountable for your False accusations.

You call him father but you can't bring yourself to admit it.

Let me save you some time friend. What you think I will be accountable for means absolutely nothing to me so please don't waste time with that silliness

John 6 verses 53, 54, 55 and 56 Jesus says eat my flesh and drink my blood. He doesn't say bread, he doesn't say my word he doesn't say believe in me. If he meant something else then the question in verse 61 is nonsensical. Why in heavens name would.anyone be shocked by what you claim is a symbolic reference?