I will raise them on the last day.

[ewq1938]

He added this phrase (I underlined) at the start of the verse. That phrase is actually the last sentence of verse 5.

Revelation 20:6 (KJV) This is the first resurrection - Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

What is actually written in the KJV for verse 6 is...

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

'There are no verse numbers or chapter numbers in the manuscripts. This is the first resurrection does belong with these other words:

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[David in NJ]

''There are no verse numbers or chapter numbers in the manuscripts. This is the first resurrection does belong with these other words:

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

YEPPER

 

[David in NJ]

''There are no verse numbers or chapter numbers in the manuscripts. This is the first resurrection does belong with these other words:

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

@Doug has placed his faith in dipensationalism.

Doug, please pray to the LORD to set you free from falsehood.

 

[rwb]

@Doug has placed his faith in dipensationalism.

Doug, please pray to the LORD to set you free from falsehood.

Perhaps we should also pray to the Lord to set you free from placing your faith in Premillennialism, and in fact all the others in this forum who do!

 

[Doug]

@Doug has placed his faith in dipensationalism.

Doug, please pray to the LORD to set you free from falsehood.

My faith is in the death for my sins and his resurrection for my justification

My understanding comes by dispensationalism

 

[David in NJ]

Perhaps we should also pray to the Lord to set you free from placing your faith in Premillennialism, and in fact all the others in this forum who do!

LOVE You

YES let's pray together in the LORD Jesus Christ that we are delivered from every falsehood = like ammillenialism

God's Plan for Man to Rule & Reign for a 1,000 Literal Years on earth began in Genesis and is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His 2nd Coming

Genesis to Revelation

 

[David in NJ]

My faith is in the death for my sins and his resurrection for my justification

My understanding comes by dispensationalism

You faith in Christ SAVES you but your faith in dispensationalism give you a false understanding = a counterfeit

Same with pre-trib rapture = falsehood and counterfeit

two gospels = falsehood and counterfeit

 

[Doug]

You faith in Christ SAVES you but your faith in dispensationalism give you a false understanding = a counterfeit

Same with pre-trib rapture = falsehood and counterfeit

two gospels = falsehood and counterfeit

I havent heard anything from you or others to dissuade me from thinking that dis[ensationalism or right division are in error..................care to give it a try show me one thing

 

[David in NJ]

I havent heard anything from you or others to dissuade me from thinking that dis[ensationalism or right division are in error..................care to give it a try show me one thing

Key = "I havent heard"

Hearing they hear not...............if you refuse the clear words of the Gospel for ALL nations = you are not hearing

 

[Doug]

Key = "I havent heard"

Hearing they hear not...............if you refuse the clear words of the Gospel for ALL nations = you are not hearing

So I assume that you cant tell me one thing that dispensationalism teaches is error even though you profess to know it is falsehood

 

[rwb]

LOVE You

YES let's pray together in the LORD Jesus Christ that we are delivered from every falsehood = like ammillenialism

God's Plan for Man to Rule & Reign for a 1,000 Literal Years on earth began in Genesis and is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His 2nd Coming

Genesis to Revelation

Yes, indeed Scripture shows us the prayers out of a righteous heart avail much.

I've often heard from Premillennialists that Amillennialism is falsehood, but what I've learned through my study of Scripture, much prayer and reliance on the Holy Spirit, is that contradictions forced upon the Word of God through Premillennialists disappear when embracing the biblical doctrine of Amillennialism! Contradiction in Scripture is the thing that drove me away from Premillennialism before I had ever even heard of Amillennialism.

A literal 1,000 years of more time given this earth after Christ comes again after the seventh trumpet sounds, indicating that TIME given this earth has ended is one of the many contradictions forced through Premillennialists.

But like you always like to say, you should continue to study the Word honestly and if the doctrines you embrace force God to contradict Himself, be willing to admit it is not the Word of God that errs, but rather the doctrine you cling to.

 

[David in NJ]

So I assume that you cant tell me one thing that dispensationalism teaches is error even though you profess to know it is falsehood

We have been sharing and exposing the many falsehoods in 'dispensationalism'

You are just not hearing

 

[David in NJ]

Yes, indeed Scripture shows us the prayers out of a righteous heart avail much.

I've often heard from Premillennialists that Amillennialism is falsehood, but what I've learned through my study of Scripture, much prayer and reliance on the Holy Spirit, is that contradictions forced upon the Word of God through Premillennialists disappear when embracing the biblical doctrine of Amillennialism! Contradiction in Scripture is the thing that drove me away from Premillennialism before I had ever even heard of Amillennialism.

A literal 1,000 years of more time given this earth after Christ comes again after the seventh trumpet sounds, indicating that TIME given this earth has ended is one of the many contradictions forced through Premillennialists.

But like you always like to say, you should continue to study the Word honestly and if the doctrines you embrace force God to contradict Himself, be willing to admit it is not the Word of God that errs, but rather the doctrine you cling to.

Genesis - Gospel - Revelation all speak of a MESSIAH Ruling on earth with His Saints = LORD Jesus Christ

 

[Doug]

We have been sharing and exposing the many falsehoods in 'dispensationalism'

You are just not hearing

No doubt. you have but I can hardly remember. I didnt ask you to show what I taught about dispensationalism being wrong. I am asking you to show me what dispensationalism teaches that is wrong. Certainly you can answer from what you remember from your knowledge of it what made you conclude it is false

 

[David in NJ]

No doubt. you have but I can hardly remember. I didnt ask you to show what I taught about dispensationalism being wrong. I am asking you to show me what dispensationalism teaches that is wrong. Certainly you can answer from what you remember from your knowledge of it what made you conclude it is false

Doug, i am working today and maybe later.

Shalom

 

[rwb]

Genesis - Gospel - Revelation all speak of a MESSIAH Ruling on earth with His Saints = LORD Jesus Christ

Genesis - Gospel - Revelation all speak of The Mesiah Ruling OVER the earth with His saints! The Saints of God rule with Christ spiritually through His Spirit in us. This is demonstrated in how Christ has given His Church (believers) gifts of that enable us to rule well, and when we rule well the Kingdom of God in heaven grows exponentially. Christ and His Church do not rule to bring peace on this earth, we rule through means Christ has ordained so the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete.

Ephesians 4:8-16 (KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Acts 20:24-28 (KJV) But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more. Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Luke 12:42-43 (KJV) And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

 

[David in NJ]

Genesis - Gospel - Revelation all speak of The Mesiah Ruling OVER the earth with His saints!

Listen and obey the LORD

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations.
He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like pottery —just as I have received authority from My Father. And I will give him the morning star.
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

His Second Coming = Time to FIGHT
Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.

The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.​

 

[rwb]

Listen and obey the LORD

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations.
He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like pottery —just as I have received authority from My Father. And I will give him the morning star.
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

His Second Coming = Time to FIGHT
Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.

The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.​

It appears that it doesn't matter to you if the doctrines you embrace force the Word of God to be contradictive nonsense???

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

How is it that someone can quote a verse while being completely unaware of its true meaning, and then impose an interpretation on it that’s entirely unbiblical?

You tell me. You seem to do it often.

There’s no question about the evidence this completely refutes the common belief in the so-called immortality of the soul. As for David, Scripture is clear: he is dead (Acts 13:36)

Acts 13:36 (ESV): “For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his own generation, fell asleep and was laid with his fathers and saw corruption.”

You are without excuse!

His body is dead. What excuse do you have for not knowing the difference between the body, soul and spirit?

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him the day He died. What don't you understand about that?

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus talked about physically dead people being conscious in Luke 16:19-31. John saw the souls of physically dead people in Revelation 6:9-11 and they were conscious. What is your excuse for being so ignorant about this?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I added the last sentence of Rev 5 to Rev 6 to make a point Doug. I explained this to you, so why are you making it appear I have misquoted Rev 6? Here is

Revelation 20:5 (KJV) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Reading vs 6 attached to the statement "This is the first resurrection", John writes those having part in the first resurrection are blessed and holy, and have overcome the second death, they shall be priests of God and of Christ and also shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Revelation 20:6 (KJV) This is the first resurrection - Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Do you really believe the rest of the dead who do not live again until the thousand years were finished are of the first resurrection, since they are not counted with those of verse 4 who have already lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years before they were martyred for their faith?

Writing this is the first resurrection makes ZERO sense if we try to force it to be for the rest of the dead. Since a thousand years symbolize time that runs from the first advent of Christ and ends when the last trumpet sounds, it makes sense and is sound logic to apply "this is the first resurrection" to the blessed and holy who "shall reign with Him a thousand years". In that way a thousand years is both past for the martyred souls in heaven, but it is also future for (Rev 6) those who shall also reign with Him during this time (future). There is only a/the thousand years mentioned, for those who have already lived and died, and those who shall reign with Christ also but are not numbered with the martyred souls spiritually alive in the Kingdom of God in heaven who have already died in faith.

Chapters and numbering of the verses are not original but were added to the Bible that we might be better equipped to study and search the Scriptures. That's why it is not wrong to make the last sentence in vs 5 to pertain to what John writes in vs 6. I don't know why the translators tried to make the first resurrection belong to the rest of the dead who are those in unbelief, but I suspect it has to do with bias for a particular doctrine being read into the translations.

Right. This is why, in the NIV, and I think a few other translations, they add parentheses to verse 5 to show that the part in parentheses is not referring to the first resurrection. It should be obvious to anyone with discernment that the rest of the dead are differentiated from those who have part in the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:5 (NIV) (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.