if i wanted to become a catholic

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and the why they did this would startle some to the core .
THEY DID it
because they are trying TO MERGE the denominations as well as the false religoins .
So they simply removed it . They are remolding doctrines
within EVERY known realm for this purpose .
To bring the world as one together under the shade and the shadow of the Harlot .
Even pope francis said His God is not the catholic etc .
THEY DO this not because they are having an awaking , FOR THEY ALSO are the ones
WHO PUSH this huge love message that cliams all religoins as well as denominations are all serving the same GOD .
A lie of course . But remember the one thing an entity that has power desires
is ONLY MORE POWER and control . We really have no idea what is truly going on my friend .
THEY GONNA MERGE us . Not this sheep , i dont sit under that mess .
 

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About time.
But I love Jesus' mother.

Awake here.
Waiting for Zohran to make his historic speech.
It might seem and sound good .
but they do this for a wicked reason .
To help merge all the denominations as well as false religoins
to be as one . Too many in the protestant realm did not like that phrase .
SO they of course change it and make it seem better .
NO , they aint fooling me friend .
I have seen them and key protestants for years all doing similiar things to their own .
ITS ALL about the merger into a world religoin . The chameleon is simply
adapting her colors to suit and to fit in my friend . THEY been doing this stuff for years
Even all over the protestant realm , as well as the false religions leaders have been doing it
unto the false religoins . TEHY GONNA merge . ITS ALL about the merger to them .
 

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I would like you to note how Aaron introduced the calf to the people,

“4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD. ”
Exodus 32:4-5 KJV
Right.
The cow was their god.

Idolatry means that the statue is worshipped as though it were itself god.

I'd say that it is this worship to anything or anyone other than God that is idolatrous.

Do you believe a statue of Jesus is idolatry?
 

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It might seem and sound good .
but they do this for a wicked reason .
To help merge all the denominations as well as false religoins
to be as one . Too many in the protestant realm did not like that phrase .
SO they of course change it and make it seem better .
NO , they aint fooling me friend .
I have seen them and key protestants for years all doing similiar things to their own .
ITS ALL about the merger into a world religoin . The chameleon is simply
adapting her colors to suit and to fit in my friend . THEY been doing this stuff for years
Even all over the protestant realm , as well as the false religions leaders have been doing it
unto the false religoins . TEHY GONNA merge . ITS ALL about the merger to them .
There has been much debate about this in the CC.
Even the very meaning of CO has been debated.
It would have two different meanings (both of which I deem to be incorrect in attributing to Mary).
 

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That's incredible Big Boy.
So I'm an idolater because I have a statue of Jesus in my garden?

What about a picture of Jesus?
Is that idolatry?

Are stained glass windows in a church idolatry?

The COW (Moses) was being worshipped.
The actual golden form of a cow.

I don't understand how you cannot see the difference and certainly I will not be capable
of explaining it to you.

I believe idolatry is when you love something more than God.
A person's car could be their idol.

Worshipping a god that is not God the Creator could be understood to be idolatry.

What is YOUR definition of an idol?

Does an idol represent something?
Am I worshipping the actual idol or what it represents?
 

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I believe idolatry is when you love something more than God.

Well them stop praying to your idols then

Idolatry is defined as the worship of idols or anything made by hands that is not God. It is considered a sin and is mentioned in verses like Colossians 3:5, which states that covetousness is idolatry.
 

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Well them stop praying to your idols then

Idolatry is defined as the worship of idols or anything made by hands that is not God. It is considered a sin and is mentioned in verses like Colossians 3:5, which states that covetousness is idolatry.
How do you know I'm praying to idols?
 

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How do you know I'm praying to idols?

It's what catholics do as they follow doctrines of demons instead of what God's Word teaches.

I've had many many conversations with catholics and they all seek to justify using extra biblical teachings to justify their unbiblical practices

So catholics are actually believing that Jesus failed to put all mankind needs to know concerning salvation in to His Word which is a round about way of claiming Jesus is a failure and a liar and everyone should look to Mary and dead saints for Truth.

And satan and his demons are laughing the whole time at catholics who are so easily deceived in to following doctrines of demons
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There's animus a plenty for catholics

True Christians are the ones following the teachings of Jesus Christ which is something the catholics do not do as they claim people cannot trust what God's Word teachers and instead people must believe extra biblical teachings in order to get Truth.

DON'T ADD TO OR TAKE AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD

Deuteronomy 4:2
You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it

Deuteronomy 12:32
Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it.

Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and you be found a liar.

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
 

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If you wanted to be Christian... Paul taught justification by faith in Christ Jesus, without the deeds of the Law. He reported this to the disciples at Antioch. Among the disciples were some that had been brought up in the ancient customs of the Jews. These rose against Paul in quick indignation, accusing him of propagating a gospel of lawlessness. Great dissension followed. Paul and Barnabas stood up for the truth. They testified: "Wherever we preached to the Gentiles, the Holy Ghost came upon those who received the Word. This happened everywhere. We preached not circumcision, we did not require observance of the Law. We preached faith in Jesus Christ. At our preaching of faith, God gave to the hearers the Holy Ghost." From this fact Paul and Barnabas inferred that the Holy Ghost approved the faith of the Gentiles without the Law and circumcision. If the faith of the Gentiles had not pleased the Holy Ghost, He would not have manifested His presence in the uncircumcised hearers of the Word. - Penelope: Or Love’s Labour Lost, vol. 3 | Project Gutenberg (Martin Luther's commentary on the Book of Galatians Chapter 2)

So... Becoming a Christian is as easy as faith in Jesus without the deeds of any denomination. But... If you wanted to join any denomination, including Catholic, that is OK too. You may even find a Catholic church that is a perfect fit for you. It is my belief that all denominations have their goods and bads. And in many cases... A big difference in the churches as well. It would be hard for me to recommend any church without knowing the leadership.
 

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If you wanted to join any denomination, including Catholic, that is OK too.

Wow, so telling someone it's OK to join a religious organization that teaches things Jesus and His Apostles did not teach is leading people astray and causing people to stumble. This is exactly what wolves do!

May as well tell people it's OK to be mormon or to join up with the JWs too while you're at it. :rolleyes:
 

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Mod Hat On.... Remembering a rule of ours...

Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christians.

Mod Hat Off...

Carry on! Remember we consider Catholic Christian... But not all Christian Catholic.
 

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My denomination is Pentecostal Holiness. And like the Methodist before us we will have a really great time in revival. But it will only go on for a generation or two before we turn out as bad as everyone else. So... Our fault is that we could not keep the wonderful spirit of revival going. Which is a big fault!
 
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My denomination is Pentecostal Holiness.

I used to belong to a pentecostal church and they certainly did not teach catholics were Christians.

Does your pastor know about your beliefs?

You might want to not let him find out as you could get the left foot of fellowship
 

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I used to belong to a pentecostal church and they certainly did not teach catholics were Christians.

Noting the word "Used" as in past tense. This is a problem with the entire church these days, especially after Covid. Many churches have fell into a slump that if they are not motivated out of there will only sink deeper.
 

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I used to belong to a pentecostal church and they certainly did not teach catholics were Christians.

Does your pastor know about your beliefs?

You might want to not let him find out as you could get the left foot of fellowship

I would also venture to say that each church has their own teachings and in many cases, their own interpretations...

1. Ephesus - Messianic - Challenging post interpretations - In which they have a right to do!
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Book of Enoch was a long time in the hands of Ethiopians
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - The Septuagint
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Originally the Latin Nova Vulgata
5. Sardis - Protestant - Many versions translated from previous versions
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Many versions translated from previous versions
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Many versions translated from previous versions
 

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I believe the churches as seven...
1. Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the Circumcision, Peter
2. Smyrna - Martyr - Beginning with the Apostle to the Un-Circumcision, Paul
3. Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
4. Thyatira -Catholicism formed in this time
5. Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - Elegant yet hard and rigid
6. Philadephia - The Great Awakening formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
7. Laodica - Rich, increased with goods, and have need of nothing?

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5:4

As I am not worthy to open and read the book I cannot be sure of the exact boundaries. I believe the seals seal each movement (the candlestick) in which the stars are the ministers thereof. As a star can exist in a constellation I believe the possibility of millions of ministers within each movement.

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The Great Awakening - "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:" - Revelation 3:12
I go to churches I consider of the Great Awakening (Pentecostal included) but am annoyed of the fact that they cannot keep the revival going.