if i wanted to become a catholic

[Behold]

No.

Are you falsely claiming that your video is not the current Catholic position on "relics"? @Matthias

 

[Matthias]

Are you falsely claiming that your video is not the current Catholic position on "relics"? @Matthias

My claim is that I’m using the video - which, by the way, is excellent - to educate on the matter. You should watch it.

 

[Matthias]

I never stated that All Catholics aren't Christians.

So, i'll bring that to your attention, again.

The Christianity Board Statement of Faith makes no exceptions.

My "method" is to highlight what the MaryCult teaches.

That is part of your method. It is part of my method too.

Like this..

And you may consider this "opposition" to the MaryCult theology.

-
1.) ""Peter as the 1st Pope"" is not found anywhere in any bible.

2.) Mary as a "'perpetual virgin" is not found in any bible

3.) Mary "ascending to heaven in her dead body"....is not found in any Bible

4.) Mary, as "co-author of Salvation". (Mediatrix) is not found in any bible.

5.) "Praying to Mary", is not found in any bible.

6.) "burning candles to Mary", is not found in any bible.

7.) "'Praying to dead Saints" is not found in any bible.

8.) "Collecting dead body parts as RELICS"< is not found in any bible.

9.) "The Rosary" and "Praying the Rosary"...." is not found in any Bible.

10.) "doing Penance" is not found in any bible.

11.) "canonizing Saints" is not found in any bible.

12.) "Purgatory" is not found in any bible.

13.) "Priests can't get married"......is not found in any bible.

14.) "Praying through Mary, to Christ".... is not found in any bible.

15.) """Kneeling or bowing before a statue of Mary"" is not found in any bible.

A.) If everything the MaryCult teaches that is not found in a BIBLE, was removed from the MaryCult.......the MaryCult would cease to exist.

 

[Matthias]

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this afternoon -

“It’s amazing that we celebrate birthdays of great men like George Washington with holidays, but 90% of the world is oblivious to the fact that TODAY is the birthday of the MOST PERFECT human person to EVER exist.

This should be a global holiday!”

https://x.com/breesolstad/status/1965024401524400188?s=61

(Same source as post #399. Show the slightest interest and X / Twitter will sock it to you.)

Before the boo birds call, remember that Jesus isn’t a human person in Nicene theology.

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this afternoon - the ignorant hit her hard.

“Sincerely.

I honestly thought all Catholics universally knew that Jesus is not a human person. It was one of the first things taught to me during RCIA. …”

https://x.com/breesolstad/status/1965611204409229534?s=61

The majority of them don’t know. They need to be properly instructed about the fine points in Nicene theology.

***

”If I wanted to become a catholic ...” you should learn the details of their doctrines before affirming them.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, everyone is required to obey God. That is why the Bible says, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). This is true for every man, woman, and child, both saved and unsaved. They are all under God's law, and for that reason they are all guilty in His sight. They don't have to obey God's law, but if they don't obey them they will go to hell if they don’t come to know Jesus Christ and ask Him to pay their sin dept, for "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). The only way out is salvation, and apart from Christ every person stands guilty under His law.

Make believe I'm 5 years old....ok, maybe 10.

Please explain to me why I have to obey God if I don't even believe in Him.

I'll repeat....
a non-believer, an unbeliever, is not required to obey God.
WHY would they have to??

It’s not a question of obedience being required or not required. It’s a question of an unsaved person being able to do so in a manner that is acceptable to God.

How is an unsaved person acceptable to God?

The Bible is clear in that “the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (Romans 8:7). The unsaved person may perform outward religious acts, but without faith it is impossible to please Him (Hebrews 11:6). They are not walking in obedience, they are still in rebellion.

RIGHT!
So why do you say an unsaved person should obey God??

Once someone is saved, obedience becomes not only required, but inevitable, because the Spirit of God is now within them. Philippians 2: 13 says, “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” True faith always results in obedience. That’s why John 3:36 ties belief and obedience together, the one who believes has life, the one who does not obey will not see life. Disobedience is the evidence of unbelief, obedience is the evidence of saving faith.

Disagree.
The NT teaches that a person could be saved and yet be disobedient.
I just found out Charlie Kirk has died.
Maybe we'll continue later on...
but please reply.

So the message is consistent. No one is saved by obedience, but no one truly saved will live in ongoing disobedience. Salvation is by grace through faith, apart from works (Ephesians 2: 8–9), yet the faith that saves always results in a changed life. That’s not a contradiction, that’s the whole truth of the gospel.

I'm going to need scripture for you...
but not right now...

 

[GodsGrace]

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this afternoon - the ignorant hit her hard.

“Sincerely.

I honestly thought all Catholics universally knew that Jesus is not a human person. It was one of the first things taught to me during RCIA. …”

https://x.com/breesolstad/status/1965611204409229534?s=61

The majority of them don’t know. They need to be properly instructed about the fine points in Nicene theology.

***

”If I wanted to become a catholic ...” you should learn the details of their doctrines before affirming them.

Just read your link about Jesus.
Correct 100%
Jesus is ONE PERSON with TWO NATURES....human and divine.

Jesus is 100% God
and 100% man

 

[Matthias]

Just read your link about Jesus.
Correct 100%
Jesus is ONE PERSON with TWO NATURES....human and divine.

Jesus is 100% God
and 100% man

Council of Chalcedon, AD 451.

A divine person, not a human person. Trinitarianism 101.

 

[GodsGrace]

Council of Chalcedon, AD 451.

A divine person, not a human person. Trinitarianism 101.

ONE PERSON.
TWO NATURES. Divine and Human

Hypostatic Union​

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A theological term used with reference to the Incarnation to express the revealed truth that in Christ one person subsists in two natures, the Divine and the human. Hypostasis means, literally, that which lies beneath as basis or foundation. Hence it came to be used by the Greek philosophers to denote reality as distinguished from appearances (Aristotle, "Mund.", IV, 21). It occurs also in St. Paul's Epistles (2 Corinthians 9:4; 11:17; Hebrews 1:3-3:14), but not in the sense of person. Previous to the Council of Nicæa (325) hypostasis was synonymous with ousia, and even St. Augustine (On the Holy Trinity V.8) avers that he sees no difference between them. The distinction in fact was brought about gradually in the course of the controversies to which the Christological heresies gave rise, and was definitively established by the Council of Chalcedon (451), which declared that in Christ the two natures, each retaining its own properties, are united in one subsistence and one person (eis en prosopon kai mian hypostasin) (Denzinger, ed. Bannwart, 148). They are not joined in a moral or accidental union (Nestorius), nor commingled (Eutyches), and nevertheless they are substantially united. For further explanation and bibliography see: INCARNATION; JESUS CHRIST; MONOPHYSITISM; NATURE; PERSON.

source: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Hypostatic Union

 

[Matthias]

ONE PERSON.
TWO NATURES. Divine and Human

Hypostatic Union​

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A theological term used with reference to the Incarnation to express the revealed truth that in Christ one person subsists in two natures, the Divine and the human. Hypostasis means, literally, that which lies beneath as basis or foundation. Hence it came to be used by the Greek philosophers to denote reality as distinguished from appearances (Aristotle, "Mund.", IV, 21). It occurs also in St. Paul's Epistles (2 Corinthians 9:4; 11:17; Hebrews 1:3-3:14), but not in the sense of person. Previous to the Council of Nicæa (325) hypostasis was synonymous with ousia, and even St. Augustine (On the Holy Trinity V.8) avers that he sees no difference between them. The distinction in fact was brought about gradually in the course of the controversies to which the Christological heresies gave rise, and was definitively established by the Council of Chalcedon (451), which declared that in Christ the two natures, each retaining its own properties, are united in one subsistence and one person (eis en prosopon kai mian hypostasin) (Denzinger, ed. Bannwart, 148). They are not joined in a moral or accidental union (Nestorius), nor commingled (Eutyches), and nevertheless they are substantially united. For further explanation and bibliography see: INCARNATION; JESUS CHRIST; MONOPHYSITISM; NATURE; PERSON.

source: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Hypostatic Union

This should be taught in every church and privately in homes.

 

[GodsGrace]

This should be taught in every church and privately in homes.

But it's the §Trinity Matthias.
Some have a real problem with this.
And, like I've always stated....
Christian is defined a particular way...but not all accept this.
They think it means that if they're not christian they can't be saved....
NO. It just means they're not Christian! God will save anyone He cares to save.
The Trinity must be believed to be defined as Christian,,no matter HOW one comes to understand it
(most ways are heretical-but who's checking?).

These days not much is taught in the home...
or in church.

 

[Matthias]

But it's the §Trinity Matthias.

Anyone who wants to become a trinitarian needs to be taught trinitarian theology. Informed consent / informed dissent.

Some have a real problem with this.

I’ve spoken about it for years, even decades.

And, like I've always stated....
Christian is defined a particular way...but not all accept this.

There are many Christians - on and away from Christianity Board - who don’t accept it.

They think it means that if they're not christian they can't be saved....
NO. It just means they're not Christian! God will save anyone He cares to save.

A wideness in God’s mercy.

The Trinity must be believed to be defined as Christian,,no matter HOW one comes to understand it
(most ways are heretical-but who's checking?).

I’ll leave that assertion for the heretics within your gates to challenge in the “Christians Only” forums.

These days not much is taught in the home...
or in church.

My plea often falls on deaf ears.

P.S.

”If I wanted to become a catholic …”

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Athanasian Creed

One of the symbols of the Faith approved by the Church and given a place in her liturgy

www.newadvent.org

 

[bdavidc]

Make believe I'm 5 years old....ok, maybe 10.

Please explain to me why I have to obey God if I don't even believe in Him.

I'll repeat....
a non-believer, an unbeliever, is not required to obey God.
WHY would they have to??

Okay, think about it this way. A child says, “I don’t believe in my parents.” Does that remove the authority of the parents? Does that make the household rules void? Does it remove the child from under their authority? No. In fact, it only increases the child’s guilt in rebellion.

It is no different with God. Our unbelief doesn’t remove God’s being Creator, King, and Judge over all people. Romans 3: 23 says, “all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” Believers and unbelievers. God commands all men in all places to repent (Acts 17:30). Our rejection of God doesn’t void our obligation, it only keeps us in open rebellion.

Think about it like gravity. You could say, “I don’t believe in gravity,” jump off a roof, and our belief doesn’t change that the law of gravity is still in effect. When we disobey God, it is just as true that His law still governs us and will have it’s effect.

Romans 14: 12 says, “every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Belief has nothing to do with God’s laws still holding over us.

Unbelievers are still commanded to obey God, because He is their Maker and Judge, whether they believe it or not. Not believing is like sticking our fingers in our ears when a fire alarm goes off, it doesn’t stop the fire, it just keeps us from getting out of the building.

 

[bdavidc]

How is an unsaved person acceptable to God?

Without Jesus, no one is acceptable to God. The Bible says we are sinners, and our good deeds are like dirty rags (Isaiah 64:6). God says people without Christ “cannot please God” (Romans 8:8) and are “condemned already” (John 3:18). But when you believe in Jesus, God makes you clean and accepts you. Ephesians 1:6 says we are “accepted in the beloved.” So it’s simple: no Jesus = not acceptable, with Jesus = accepted.

 

[bdavidc]

RIGHT!
So why do you say an unsaved person should obey God??

First, because God’s Word teaches all people, saved or unsaved, are under His authority. God commands “all men every where to repent” (Acts 17:30). An unsaved person is not exempt from obedience simply because they do not believe. In fact, Romans 2: 8 says, “unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath.” That proves God has every expectation of their obedience, and their refusal is a rebellious act. We also read in Romans 1: 18 that His wrath is revealed “against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.” The fact that they cannot please God apart from faith (Hebrews 11:6, Romans 8:8) does not nullify His righteous command, it explains why they need the gospel. Every knee will bow to Christ, believer or unbeliever (Philippians 2:10–11). Whether they obey now in faith or later in judgment, God’s authority over them is the same. For this reason the unsaved should obey God, (it does not mean thet will, but that is why they should) because He is their Creator and Judge, and He commands it.

 

[bdavidc]

Disagree.
The NT teaches that a person could be saved and yet be disobedient.

Please show me where you find proof for your statement in the bible, “The NT teaches that a person could be saved and yet be disobedient.”

The New Testament never divorces salvation from obedience. “If ye love me, keep my commandments,” said Jesus (John 14:15). In Paul we read that salvation is by grace through faith, not of works (Ephesians 2: 8–9), yet the very next verse says we are “created in Christ Jesus unto good works” (Ephesians 2:10). James is just as clear: “faith without works is dead” (James 2:17). A disobedient life is not the mark of a saved person, it is the mark of an unbeliever. John 3: 36 ties it together: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son [literally, does not obey the Son] shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

Yes, believers can stumble and sin, but the difference is they repent, confess, and are restored (1 John 1:9). Scripture is clear that those who practice disobedience as a lifestyle do not belong to God. 1 John 2: 4 says, “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” The Spirit produces obedience in the saved (Philippians 2:13, Galatians 5:22–23). So while a Christian may fail, no one is truly saved and at the same time lives in ongoing disobedience to God. The Bible is consistent: true salvation and obedience cannot be separated.

The New Testament never teaches that someone can be truly saved and live in ongoing, willful disobedience. What it does teach is that believers can stumble into sin, be carnal for a time, or need correction, but not that disobedience defines a saved life.

So the New Testament allows for believers to fall into disobedience temporarily, but it never teaches that someone can be truly saved and yet live in disobedience as a pattern of life.

 

[bdavidc]

I just found out Charlie Kirk has died.

He was murdered by a left-minded person. He did not just die.

Left-minded person = usually refers to the side that pushes godless policies, denies biblical truth, and celebrates sin.

 

[GodsGrace]

Anyone who wants to become a trinitarian needs to be taught trinitarian theology. Informed consent / informed dissent.



I’ve spoken about it for years, even decades.



There are many Christians - on and away from Christianity Board - who don’t accept it.



A wideness in God’s mercy.



I’ll leave that assertion for the heretics within your gates to challenge in the “Christians Only” forums.



My plea often falls on deaf ears.

P.S.

”If I wanted to become a catholic …”

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Athanasian Creed

One of the symbols of the Faith approved by the Church and given a place in her liturgy

www.newadvent.org

What can I say...
I agree with the above.

 

[Matthias]

Vatican Rejects Title ‘Co-Redemptrix’ for Mary

The Vatican says ‘Co-Redemptrix’ and ‘Mediatrix’ are not suitable Marian titles, reaffirming Christ as the sole Redeemer and Mediator.

ewtnvatican.com

 

[GodsGrace]

Vatican Rejects Title ‘Co-Redemptrix’ for Mary

The Vatican says ‘Co-Redemptrix’ and ‘Mediatrix’ are not suitable Marian titles, reaffirming Christ as the sole Redeemer and Mediator.

ewtnvatican.com

About time.
But I love Jesus' mother.

Awake here.
Waiting for Zohran to make his historic speech.

 

[Brakelite]

How does one practice idolatry if they don't teach it?

A graven image mans you WORSHIP THE IMAGE.
There are no images in the CC that are WORSHIPPED.

I don't really see anyone praying, kneeling at a stature anymore like years ago when I was growing up - and probably you also.
But the person wasn't praying TO the stature...it was a representation of some saint or Mary.....which, I do believe praying to saints is wrong.

Imagine the golden calf that was being worshipped when Moses came back down Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments.
Do you REALLY believe Catholics are doing the same as the Israelites were? THAT is idolatry. They were celebrating THE CALF.....not something it represented.

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And you should get with the program....
Catholics teach some doctrine about Mary and we may agree with them or disagree with them....
But for salvation they teach Jesus,,,just like we do.
When I go to Mass I hear JESUS, not Mary.

I would like you to note how Aaron introduced the calf to the people,

“4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD. ”
Exodus 32:4-5 KJV

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