If Satan is the devil, is God responsible for all evil?

[Jack]

No clue what John Wayne would reply.

No clue indeed!

So? I’ve already addressed there is an Ever lasting Fire.
So why the irrelevant comment?

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

Already did…short memory?

Sin is Unbelief in the Lord God Almighty..

So what will happen to all these sinners here?

I notice you give some Bible quotes, without relevance to your claims…
Like the following…

[QUOTE{Mark 11:25
25 "And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.

It's a daily prayer. You don't obey Jesus?


You quote Scripture about TRESPASSES…Then add your comment about SIN.

Trespass and Sin are two different things.






And again, you lack ability to understand.
Perfect-ED In Christ…is not a person claiming they are perfect.
It is a person who has become Sanctified.

Obviously not applicable to you. Oops.

Heb 10:
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.




Surprise… Not… you again falsely attempting with your words to describe an others Beliefs.

Seems You are Not Saved… since…you don’t Believe the Lords Power is Capable to Save a man Once and it be everlasting.

How many times has the Lord Saved you… but He Failed?
[/QUOTE]

 

[Jack]

Your posts are terribly messed up O 'perfect' one.

 

[Taken]

No clue indeed.

Yep. Not accountable for what others believe.

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

Yep…“They”… are living fallen angels…
And
You think the Unrighteous dead… can experience tormenting pain? LOL…

So what will happen to all these sinners here?

Already said…body, soul void of life, destroyed.

It's a daily prayer. You don't obey Jesus?

Regarding The point of Trespasses, sure.


How many times has the Lord Saved you… but He Failed?

 

[Jack]

Yep…“They”… are living fallen angels…
And
You think the Unrighteous dead… can experience tormenting pain? LOL…

See how God made you admit there is eternal Hell!

Already said…body, soul void of life, destroyed.

YOU said. God didn't.

Regarding The point of Trespasses, sure.

How many times has the Lord Saved you… but He Failed?

Anybody who believes Satan's OSAS if far from sinless and perfect!

 

[Taken]

Your posts are terribly messed up O 'perfect' one.

Hearing problem…??
It’s “perfected in Christ…”
Not “O perfect one”…

I am aware you are not capable of “understanding, neither Scripture or what people say”…

Sad for you.

 

[Jack]

Hearing problem…??
It’s “perfected in Christ…”
Not “O perfect one”…

You're only perfect in your imagination.

I am aware you are not capable of “understanding, neither Scripture or what people say”…

Sad for you.

You fell for Satan's OSAS! Sad for YOU!

 

[Taken]

See how God made you admit there is eternal Hell!

No. i never said there was not an eternal fire…
That was YOU gaslighting.

YOU said. God didn't.

Matt 10:

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Anybody who believes Satan's OSAS if far from sinless and perfect!

OSAS… does not apply to the “sinless or perfect”.

Your need to change what a person says… is Typical of those without understanding…

Sad, you believe making up lies, makes you credible.
It doesn’t.

 

[Jack]

No. i never said there was not an eternal fire…
That was YOU gaslighting.



Matt 10:

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.



OSAS… does not apply to the “sinless or perfect”.

Your need to change what a person says… is Typical of those without understanding…

Sad, you believe making up lies, makes you credible.
It doesn’t.

May God deliver you from your imaginary self perfection and sinless deception and Satan's OSAS in Jesus' Name!

 

[Taken]

You're only perfect in your imagination.

You fell for Satan's OSAS! Sad for YOU!

How ignorant…
No where does Scripture teach Satan has ANY input in Salvation.

Good grief… You should consider finding and attending a Church that teaches the truth.

How embarrassing for you.

 

[Taken]

May God deliver you from your imaginary self perfection and sinless deception and Satan's OSAS in Jesus' Name!

May God give you a wake-up call about Falsely Accusing.

 

[Davy]

God created Good & Evil, & Established Freewill for Celestial Angel beings and Terrestrial man beings the option to choose which to follow after.

Nope. God DID NOT CREATE EVIL.

Many misinterpret Isaiah 45:7 because they don't study all their Bible and are not able to understand what Lucifer's original overthrow in the old world was about.

There are 3 earth world ages covered in God's Word.

The 1st earth world age was when God had made His 'original' PERFECT creation and Lucifer was made perfect in his ways, following God, and guarding God's Throne as a covering cherub.

Lucifer then rebelled in coveting God's Throne for himself; THAT is when Evil and Sin and Death began, caused by Lucifer's rebellion.

God ended... that 1st earth world age, and brought today's IMPERFECT 2nd earth world age.

WITHIN... this present 2nd earth world age, GOD USES EVIL because Lucifer is the originator of evil and rebellion against God. This is why many fail to understand that God is not the creator of evil. This is how we can be certain that no evil can ever exist with God, as Apostle John declares in 1 John 1:5. But since Satan in this 2nd earth world age is allowed to use evil, God also uses Satan against the rebellious, and only in that... sense is that Isaiah 45:7 verse meant.

 

[Taken]

Nope. God DID NOT CREATE EVIL.

Many misinterpret Isaiah 45:7 because they don't study all their Bible and are not able to understand what Lucifer's original overthrow in the old world was about.

There are 3 earth world ages covered in God's Word.

The 1st earth world age was when God had made His 'original' PERFECT creation and Lucifer was made perfect in his ways, following God, and guarding God's Throne as a covering cherub.

Lucifer then rebelled in coveting God's Throne for himself; THAT is when Evil and Sin and Death began, caused by Lucifer's rebellion.

God ended... that 1st earth world age, and brought today's IMPERFECT 2nd earth world age.

WITHIN... this present 2nd earth world age, GOD USES EVIL because Lucifer is the originator of evil and rebellion against God. This is why many fail to understand that God is not the creator of evil. This is how we can be certain that no evil can ever exist with God, as Apostle John declares in 1 John 1:5. But since Satan in this 2nd earth world age is allowed to use evil, God also uses Satan against the rebellious, and only in that... sense is that Isaiah 45:7 verse meant.

Disagree.

 

[Davy]

Disagree.

That's OK. I don't care. Stay ignorant of what Lucifer did before this 2nd world earth age then.

 

[David Lamb]

God created Good & Evil, & Established Freewill for Celestial Angel beings and Terrestrial man beings the option to choose which to follow after.

God didn't create evil in the sense of sin. I might be wrong, but I imagine you have in mind this verse:

(Isa 45:7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The word translated "evil" there in the KJV means calamity. Strong's Concordance says:

"From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing),"

 

[soberxp]

God didn't create evil in the sense of sin. I might be wrong, but I imagine you have in mind this verse:

(Isa 45:7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The word translated "evil" there in the KJV means calamity. Strong's Concordance says:

"From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing),"

Yes, in the Chinese version of the Bible, this word is translated as "disaster".

 

[David Lamb]

Yes, in the Chinese version of the Bible, this word is translated as "disaster".

Yes, in English, the NKJV and the ESV have "calamity."

 

[Jack]

How ignorant…
No where does Scripture teach Satan has ANY input in Salvation.

Good grief… You should consider finding and attending a Church that teaches the truth.

How embarrassing for you.

You need to ask forgiveness before it's too late!

 

[Jack]

May God give you a wake-up call about Falsely Accusing.

If you're as PERFECT and SINLESS as you say, what will happen to all here who are not?

 

[Jack]

May God give you a wake-up call about Falsely Accusing.

Your posts speak for themselves, MASS CONFUSION!

 

[soberxp]

Your posts speak for themselves, MASS CONFUSION!

Every time it comes out of your mouth, it's hell.It's like heaven that only you can enter, and no one else has the right to enter.

So please use your noble wisdom to describe to me what a thousand countries should look like?