is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

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Hidden In Him

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As I said, the topic brings up a lot emotions and strong beliefs and because of that it will not be resolved.
I have already asked you....do you know what fornication is? I would think not...most Christians do not.
The Bible talks about sexual immorality...but odds are you do not know what that is.
This is the same conversation that goes on and on because they do not understand.
I have been seeing these conversations for years and I have developed a sense of humor about....I will just laugh at ya.
You try to instruct people about things you do not understand.

The word fornication is defined as sexual intercourse between people not married to each other.

Why would you be laughing at me. What is it that I don't understand?
 

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You think you can tempt me? LOL Humor. It is an unresolvable issue that offends people...so why offend people.

That's what I just asked you. I didn't say I was laughing at you. Why are you laughing at me? I'm simply trying to discuss the scriptures here.
 

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Ok, then we are agreed on four things as being sexual sin now: Homosexuality, prostitution, adultery, and bestiality. But the following passage sees to suggest that even mere sex between unmarried people was considered a sin as well.
No there is another one but maybe...maybe we will get into that.
The whoredoms they committed here were spiritual, IMO, for the Israelites began worshipping their gods after sexual relations with them. Do you believe this establishes sex outside of marriage as a sin, or no?

I am not going to get into whoredoms because there is a theological side of that, that does not even mean sex in some cases.

Just to point out the tip of the iceberg of the misunderstandings on this topic....what is fornication?
 

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I am not going to get into whoredoms because there is a theological side of that, that does not even mean sex in some cases.

You don't think they were having sex in the Numbers account?
Just to point out the tip of the iceberg of the misunderstandings on this topic....what is fornication?

Post #102. The word fornication is defined as sexual intercourse between people not married to each other. I don't favor it as a translation because the Greek word used is much more overarching than that.
 

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That's what I just asked you. I didn't say I was laughing at you. Why are you laughing at me? I'm simply trying to discuss the scriptures here.

Hidden In Him...lets get this straight I am not dis-ing you...I am having fun with the fact hardly anyone understands. It is just not you. I hold you in high regard....so there you have a fan!
 

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Hidden In Him...lets get this straight I am not dis-ing you...I am having fun with the fact hardly anyone understands. It is just not you. I hold you in high regard....so there you have a fan!

I have no fans, LoL. I have people who can tolerate me for a time. :p But I appreciate the sentiment, just the same.
 

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You don't think they were having sex in the Numbers account?
Like I said....whoredoms right now.
Post #102. The word fornication is defined as sexual intercourse between people not married to each other.

And that is mostly wrong. But a common misunderstanding among Christian. Dig a little deeper there...like your sword.
 

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And that is mostly wrong. But a common misunderstanding among Christian. Dig a little deeper there...like your sword.

Well like I said, I don't favor it as a translation because the Greek word used is much more overarching than that, covering multiple sexual sins not just sex outside marriage.
 

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Well like I said, I don't favor it as a translation because the Greek word used is much more overarching than that, covering multiple sexual sins not just sex outside marriage.

You are not going to believe me, so you have to do it yourself...Ok....trace the word back....through the languages.

You probably are not a student of the Greco-Roman culture so I will tell you....give you a hint...the Greco-Roman culture did not have the concerns regarding sexual immorality that Christ and the Apostles had, (that much you probably know) but consider that this difference in concern and morals is reflected in the definitions of the Greek language...the Greek words. And the Apostles were tasked with picking Greek words and using them to explain their meanings.
 

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You probably are not a student of the Greco-Roman culture so I will tell you....give you a hint...the Greco-Roman culture did not have the concerns regarding sexual immorality that Christ and the Apostles had, (that much you probably know) but consider that this difference in concern and morals is reflected in the definitions of the Greek language...the Greek words. And the Apostles were tasked with picking Greek words and using them to explain their meanings.

Just getting back.

Ok, I follow you so far. Where are you going however? :cool:
 

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Just getting back.

Ok, I follow you so far. Where are you going however? :cool:
This is an involved topic. Read post 111.
One of the reasons that I am laughing is that I know you are smart enough to know this...you just have not looked it up.
I am not leading you anywhere because you are not going to believe me. And you will find out other important things looking it up.
 
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This is an involved topic. Read post 111.
One of the reasons that I am laughing is that I know you are smart enough to know this...you just have not looked it up.
I am not leading you anywhere because you are not going to believe me. And you find out other important things looking it up.

LoL. This is like an Easter egg hunt... pardon the allusion...

I know porneia (πορνεία – "prostitution") was transliterated into the Latin Vulgate from the Greek texts using the terms fornicati, fornicatus, fornicata, and fornicatae, but I'm currently still at a loss where you're taking me...

We may be in trouble here if you don't spell it out. :D
 

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LoL. This is like an Easter egg hunt... pardon the allusion...

I know porneia (πορνεία – "prostitution") was transliterated into the Latin Vulgate from the Greek texts using the terms fornicati, fornicatus, fornicata, and fornicatae, but I'm currently still at a loss where you're taking me...

We may be in trouble here if you don't spell it out. :D
Not ignoring you....I am working on this and eating a pot roast dinner. And I am not taking you anywhere. I am want you to see the facts...LOL
 
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