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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by CoreIssue, May 3, 2019.

  1. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Paul was pretty evil killing and arresting Christians, but God's mercy turned him into the greatest apostle of all times.

    The Bible records drunks, prostitutes and homosexuals turning from deadly sin to God.

    God putting Lucifer and the like a fire for eternity is justice.

    The lake of fire destroys no one. Everyone, saved and unsaved, exist forever.

    Justice is good.
     
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    Amen Brother!
     
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    Ntmy mr Mathews, and very nice imo. Maybe gotta get in we forget that the righteous are removed to spare them, but that's likely a diff subject anyway?
     
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    Luke 18:30 Lexicon: who will not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal life."
    Sounds like no one there, back there, is the same guy, huh? Imo do yourself a favor and read from the clicked link, instead of the English there. No reason no one cannot be...um, taken the other way, the actually more literal if you think about it?

    Also note maybe the use of age there for the same root as eternal, and the change in the short defs @ both, if you would; does Eternal mean forever? Well yes, it does; and also, it does not. This may not be a pleasant contemplation and may not even be for you right now, ok, but...imo we do not have a very good concept of Time right now, generally speaking, defs all over the pace, and your current understanding of "exist forever" is um highly predicated upon that concept. That was at one time completely foreign to you, you even had to be taught it, back when you were (busy slaying Christ) founding the world. imo.

    brought Samuel up from the earth
    Who
    is this that disturbs my rest?
    You and your sons will be here with me
    Knowledge brings sorrow,
    might also look, um discover the form of Who there, and maybe see if it's at all possible that one could be um channeling Saul there
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Yes, understanding is a process of time and learning.

    Unlike some say Samuel was not reconstituted from the earth. He rose from paradise which was in the year.
     
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    from our perspective anyway, certainly.
    but little kids have not even so much as learned what time is...if in fact it is.
    i know that is reading like um nonsense ok, still not quite able to get my head around it myself, but I would be suspicious of this thing that appears in our heads when you say "process of time," the...premise, the most basic assumption there, is fatally flawed somehow imo. It is a process of time from our pov though, yes. We who cannot find almost 95% of "reality" that our maths tell us must exist, we even just recently found like another 1%
    i wouldn't quibble there myself, might be a perfectly fine pov. The point there to me is mostly that Sam (accepted) is saying that to Saul (rejected), y'all gone be here with me
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    What time is is a much disputed issue.

    I think it is the perception of change around in association with the movement of things like the earth around the sun.

    I do not believe it is something like matter and energy.
     
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    I like your theory, as far as it has gone. Matter and energy are a diff subject to me too, but i guess related to time too, intrinsically even, i can even use time to convert matter into energy, right now. There's a...dialectic statement waiting to be made here about "in no-time, that wouldn't matter" or something similar, but too loud in herenow for me to hear-say it.

    Anyway, the orbital perspective is a great start there imo, a recent next step for me was the perception of change in order/entropy fwiw. Were things better yesterday than they are today, do you think? I still do lol, drives me nuts
     
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    I could maybe goto $20k? Hard Bc this season too late...but where else you gonna earn um 6% on your capital anyway? :) think about it maybe at least. I miss a payment, you get it all back!

    Also what is the asking, sorry, I missed that part. And if you would, how far in time to drive from Vancouver, ty. Motivated um buyer here ok, couple other properties producing now, welcome to come see for yourse, etc. Not mine you understand, i'm strictly the ferret lol. But if this was like, oh, last October i would already be on your doorstep, this deal is so done in my head. Now is more of a pain. S Fl modular avail on zillow 15560 Royal Coach Circle N Ft Myers Fl. Shiniest turd you ever saw too prolly lol, i bet there's 15 remotes in that trailer right now, and it's empty of furniture.
     
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    Some good points.
     
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    maybe, huh? Dunno. The video on time by the Italian guy of a couple weeks ago has a really good reveal of this at about...52:00 if i remem right, although i guess he did not originate the theory, which I think essentially goes "we, humans, are the time machines" which makes little sense, until you put it together with some other stuff anyway
     
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