Is it possible to lose salvation?

[LoveYeshua]

Jesus had a lot to say about and this taught that the path to eternal life is narrow and that few find it. In Matthew 7:13-14, He said;

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."​

This shows that salvation is not guaranteed for everyone, and only those who stay faithful and follow His teachings will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.


Jesus also warned that some would hear the word and believe for a while, but eventually fall away. In the Parable of the Sower, He explained;

"But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles." (Matthew 13:20-21).​

This illustrates that some will start their walk with God but will not persevere when faced with trials or temptations.

In John 15:6, Jesus made it even clearer, saying;

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."​

Here, Jesus compares Himself to a vine and believers as branches. A branch must remain connected to the vine to stay alive and bear fruit. If a person disconnects from Christ through disobedience or unbelief, they wither spiritually and face eternal judgment.


The original apostles also confirmed this truth. Peter warned in 2 Peter 2:20-21;

"For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."​

This shows that a person who was once saved and returns to sin is in a worse condition than before they knew the truth.​

James also affirmed this truth when he said;

"Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."​

(James 5:19-20).​

This verse reveals that a believer can wander away from the truth and face spiritual death unless they repent and return to God.

The Bible does provide examples of those who lost their salvation. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve apostles chosen by Jesus, yet he betrayed the Lord for thirty pieces of silver. Jesus Himself said about Judas;

"It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Matthew 26:24).​

This shows that Judas was once in the faith but fell away and was lost.

Another example is Balaam, a prophet who once heard from God but later led Israel into sin for personal gain. Peter referred to him, saying,

"They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor." (2 Peter 2:15). King Saul is yet another example; he was chosen and anointed by God but later disobeyed and rebelled, and the Spirit of God departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14)​

Jesus' words make it clear that salvation is not a one-time event but requires endurance and faithfulness until the end. As He said in Matthew 24:13, "But he who endures to the end shall be saved." Therefore, those who abide in Christ, obey His commandments, and remain faithful will receive eternal life. However, those who turn away from Him and return to sin risk losing their salvation and facing eternal separation from God: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."Rev 14:12

Blessings.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How can you LOSE eternal life?
How can you LOSE the promise you will never perish
How can you LOSE the idea that you will never hunger or thirst. and be assured Gods promise he will raise you on the last day
How can you LOSE the fact you who were dead are made alive. Not by works of righteousness which you do. But By Gods Mercy
How do you Lose the seal of the spirit. Gods seal placed upon you until the day of redemption (resurrections day)
How can you Lose the fact you have been adopted into Gods family. does he just kick you out on the streets and say do not come back?

more importantly., The wage of sin is death, How can you add any work, or works to make up for one sin. And finally Gods requirement is perfection. If you can not meet Gods standard at any time. How can you fall back below it to lose salvation.

 

[Jay Ross]

^^^^ Yes

 

[Cyd]

Jesus had a lot to say about and this taught that the path to eternal life is narrow and that few find it. In Matthew 7:13-14, He said;

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."​

This shows that salvation is not guaranteed for everyone, and only those who stay faithful and follow His teachings will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.


Jesus also warned that some would hear the word and believe for a while, but eventually fall away. In the Parable of the Sower, He explained;

"But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles." (Matthew 13:20-21).​

This illustrates that some will start their walk with God but will not persevere when faced with trials or temptations.

In John 15:6, Jesus made it even clearer, saying;

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."​

Here, Jesus compares Himself to a vine and believers as branches. A branch must remain connected to the vine to stay alive and bear fruit. If a person disconnects from Christ through disobedience or unbelief, they wither spiritually and face eternal judgment.


The original apostles also confirmed this truth. Peter warned in 2 Peter 2:20-21;

"For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."​

This shows that a person who was once saved and returns to sin is in a worse condition than before they knew the truth.​

James also affirmed this truth when he said;

"Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."​

(James 5:19-20).​

This verse reveals that a believer can wander away from the truth and face spiritual death unless they repent and return to God.

The Bible does provide examples of those who lost their salvation. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve apostles chosen by Jesus, yet he betrayed the Lord for thirty pieces of silver. Jesus Himself said about Judas;

"It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Matthew 26:24).​

This shows that Judas was once in the faith but fell away and was lost.

Another example is Balaam, a prophet who once heard from God but later led Israel into sin for personal gain. Peter referred to him, saying,

"They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor." (2 Peter 2:15). King Saul is yet another example; he was chosen and anointed by God but later disobeyed and rebelled, and the Spirit of God departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14)​

Jesus' words make it clear that salvation is not a one-time event but requires endurance and faithfulness until the end. As He said in Matthew 24:13, "But he who endures to the end shall be saved." Therefore, those who abide in Christ, obey His commandments, and remain faithful will receive eternal life. However, Athose who turn away from Him and return to sin risk losing their salvation and facing eternal separation from God: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."Rev 14:12

Blessings.

According to this NO.

John 10:25-30 (KJV) Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

 

[Rockerduck]

It is an impossibility, to be given a gift, you didn't ask for it, you did nothing to get the gift and to think man can rise to the level of God to lose it. God has Sovereign authority over all aspects of your salvation; man cannot do anything on his own. As Jesus told Pilate, you have no power except what is given from above.

 

[Behold]

Reader,

Its always people who don't understand God's Salvation, who want to try to prove it can be lost.

Listen...
There are many ways to teach that Salvation can't be lost, so, let me show you this one, Reader.

Now, WHO...........is your Salvation?

Look again.

WHO is your Salvation?

A.) Jesus is your Salvation, because Jesus IS Salvation.
Its Him. Its What He has accomplished on The Cross for you that He said from The Cross.. "IT is Finished/= Accomplished"

AA.) "IT" = Your Salvation, your Forgiveness, your Eternal Life.

So, where are you in that? ??????

What part of that, is YOU doing it?
Did you bleed for your own sin??
Did they whip your back so that you can be forgiven and healed ??
Where are the nails in your wrists ????

Yet, you want to try to prove that Salvation, = Who is JESUS.... is lost by something you do, or dont do, when its JESUS Alone who is your Salvation.

Have you still never realized that on the Day that God saved you... He knew all the "bad stuff" you would do later in life, years later... and Yet HE SAVED YOU ANYWAY.
So, is God stupid?
Would He save you, knowing you would "lose it later"? or Would He save you knowing that what He has provided will always keep you eternally Secure?

.............Some of you have to figure this out, ASAP.... or you will remain a diaper baby christian, who is defined here by the New Testament...........: = Hebrews 6:1

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Listen.......If Jesus does not Keep you Saved, then WHO DOES?

Who does????

Is it YOU?
Are you The Savior now?
Then why do you BELIEVE that its up to YOU, to keep yourself saved , when you CANT DO IT.........It can't be done.
See, you can't save yourself to begin with, remember ????..... and you also can't keep yourself saved.
You're not the Savior. Your the former Hell bound sinner who God has eternally SAVED, if you are born again.
Did you forget?

So, I'll ask you again..... if you are not trusting in JESUS THE SAVIOR to always Keep you SAVED......then who are you trusting in to keep you saved.?????

You are trusting in YOU..........thats who.
So that means you are NOT Trusting In Christ, while you pretend you do.

Look Carefully....

Jesus is THE SAVIOR, and He said if you believe in Him, you have eternal life, (because He gives it to you) and you shall "never perish".
That is not a lie.
Does Jesus lie?
So, if you are one of those who believes and teaches that you can lose your salvaiton, then that means you can go to Hell, and Jesus just told you that you shall "never perish"......and that means you shall never "go to Hell".
So who is lying?

Jesus is SALVATION>......and Jesus told you that """"He will NEVER LEAVE YOU< or Forsake YOU."""
Why dont you believe your Savior?
What is wrong with you ?

And a bible newbie... says....>>>"but i can walk away from Him"........

And if you do, then """"Jesus will never leave you or forsake you""" ...He is right there IN YOU, while you can't understand your Salvaiton, and want to prove you dont understand it on Forums.

Now....Here is a REVELATION for the Self righteous "self savor"......who is actually born again, and not just water baptized and hyper-religious.

A.) If a born again Christain goes to Hell after you die, then God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit, who are in you, will go to Hell with you, as they will "NEVER LEAVE YOU or Forsake you".

Do you believe that God, Christ , and the Holy Spirit will be going to Hell?

And neigher will you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It is an impossibility, to be given a gift, you didn't ask for it, you did nothing to get the gift and to think man can rise to the level of God to lose it. God has Sovereign authority over all aspects of your salvation; man cannot do anything on his own. As Jesus told Pilate, you have no power except what is given from above.

Actually, God will not give it to us if we did not ask for it.

He who believes is not condemned

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right

 

[Rockerduck]

Actually, God will not give it to us if we did not ask for it.

He who believes is not condemned

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right

It is God who draws us to Him. John 6:44. Ephesians 2:8 - For by Grace (you did not deserve) you have been saved through faith (in Jesus Christ), and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works (you did not do anything), lest anyone should boast (you cannot tell anyone that you participated in any part of your salvation)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It is God who draws us to Him. John 6:44. Ephesians 2:8 - For by Grace (you did not deserve) you have been saved through faith (in Jesus Christ), and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works (you did not do anything), lest anyone should boast (you cannot tell anyone that you participated in any part of your salvation)

yes

but we still have to chose. he will not force is to take his gift.

 

[Wick Stick]

Salvation and "saved" don't always refer to the same things, which muddies the waters. It is clearer to use other words.

At conversion, we say a person is "saved," but it would be clearer to say they were regenerated, or resurrected (in the metaphorical sense). They are adopted as heirs through Christ.

Once that happens, we say that they have been put on the "path of salvation," but it would be clearer to say that they've entered a state of safety, which is predicated on belief and obedience.

Can one leave that state of safety by disobeying? Certainly, and then they will reap the consequences of their disobedience. Does that mean they are no longer adopted? Definitely NOT. Adoption is not a toggle that flips back and forth with every action.

Is it possible to negate the Adoption? Not easily. The parable of the Prodigal Son is instructive - even leaving purposefully and pursuing sin was not enough to remove the Prodigal's status as a son.

The only way to do so would be another adoption, which I am not sure God would even allow.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Salvation and "saved" don't always refer to the same things, which muddies the waters. It is clearer to use other words.

At conversion, we say a person is "saved," but it would be clearer to say they were regenerated, or resurrected (in the metaphorical sense). They are adopted as heirs through Christ.

Once that happens, we say that they have been put on the "path of salvation," but it would be clearer to say that they've entered a state of safety, which is predicated on belief and obedience.

Can one leave that state of safety by disobeying? Certainly, and then they will reap the consequences of their disobedience. Does that mean they are no longer adopted? Definitely NOT. Adoption is not a toggle that flips back and forth with every action.

Is it possible to negate the Adoption? Not easily. The parable of the Prodigal Son is instructive - even leaving purposefully and pursuing sin was not enough to remove the Prodigal's status as a son.

The only way to do so would be another adoption, which I am not sure God would even allow.

actually

a person is justified the moment they are saved by faith.. this justification is eternal (called eternal life)

a person is in the process of being sanctified. or made into the image of Christ. which is ongoing until they die

a person will be glorified when resurected to a new life..

A person is saved from penalty of sin (justification)
they are being saved from the power of sin (sanctification)
they will be saved from the ability to son (glorification)

 

[Rockerduck]

yes

but we still have to chose. he will not force is to take his gift.

Nope, you cannot choose unless God opens the heart. It's works to choose. That puts a human element into your salvation and that didn't happen. God has Sovreign authority over all aspects of your salvation, otherwise you can say what you just did, saying I chose to get saved.

 

[Behold]

Once that happens, we say that they have been put on the "path of salvation," but it would be clearer to say that they've entered a state of safety, which is predicated on belief and obedience.

Nonsense.

Salvation is Jesus......
He is our Salvation., and that is why He is titled : Savior.

And where is Jesus, regarding the Born again?

He is : "CHRIST IN YOU, the Hope of Glory".. (Glory is heaven).

So, Christ is now IN the born again, which means that the born again Spirit is now "ONE wtih God".

THIS is the proof of Salvaiton, and its the STATE and STATUS of Salvation, and its ETERNAL.

What is Salvation, as related to ADAM the 1st?

its the restoation of ETERNAL spiritual UNION between God and man, that is created by the finished work of Jesus on The Cross.

This restored Spiritual Union between a forgiven SINNER and Holy God, is ETERNAL, because its created by This.......

A.) = "Jesus is the ONE TIME.........ETERNAL........sacrifice for sin".......because "God hath made JESUS... to be sin for us".

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope, you cannot choose unless God opens the heart. It's works to choose.

well we can chose. because God draws us to himself. and proves his faithfulness to us

if we do not chose. we will remain lost

That puts a human element into your salvation and that didn't happen.

Typical faltalistic mumbo jumbo

it is the work of God that I recieved him.. Not by my will. his will

what is his will?

John 6: 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”


it is his will that whoever sees and believes.. will recieve these promises.

he who believes is not condemned. etc etc

God has Sovreign authority over all aspects of your salvation, otherwise you can say what you just did, saying I chose to get saved.

yawn.. again, typical Calvinistic mumbo jumbo

Repent and come to Christ. But as many as have received him, to THEM he gave the right.

God does not force t on anyone. and he does not keep it from anyone

 

[Rockerduck]

well we can chose. because God draws us to himself. and proves his faithfulness to us

if we do not chose. we will remain lost

Typical faltalistic mumbo jumbo

it is the work of God that I recieved him.. Not by my will. his will

what is his will?

John 6: 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”


it is his will that whoever sees and believes.. will recieve these promises.

he who believes is not condemned. etc etc

yawn.. again, typical Calvinistic mumbo jumbo

Repent and come to Christ. But as many as have received him, to THEM he gave the right.

God does not force t on anyone. and he does not keep it from anyone

who is calvin? I have no friends by that name. Just keep believing what you believe that you choose.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

who is calvin? I have no friends by that name. Just keep believing what you believe that you choose.

lol

You do not have to know his name, You follow his teaching..

 

[Behold]

who is calvin?

John Calvin is a demon possessed Liar, who created a Cross Denying Theology about 500 yrs ago.
His doctrinal pack of satanic lies, "Calvinism + Hyper Calvinism" owns the minds (theologically) of about 75% of the Christian Church.

To discover if someone's mind is infected with John Calvinism, notice if they try to prove that God caused them to believe in Jesus, (they had no free will choice)..... vs them choosing to Trust in Christ by free will.......... and if they also try to prove that Jesus didnt die for everyone.

When you find a person teaching that garbage, you've discovered a mind that is infected with John Calvinism.
Its actually a mental illness, disgusied as "my Theology that is proven in the bible ", they will tell you.

 

[Rockerduck]

lol

You do not have to know his name, You follow his teaching..

I am taught by the Holy Spirit. God told me to get rid of my vast collection of commentaries and He would teach me.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I am taught by the Holy Spirit. God told me to get rid of my vast collection of commentaries and He would teach me.

but every argument you use is used by a calvinist.

You may think you are following God. but you are following a commentary.. you just possibly do not know it

The HS would not have you follow a fatalisitc view that gives God a bad name,

 

[marks]

How can you LOSE eternal life?
How can you LOSE the promise you will never perish
How can you LOSE the idea that you will never hunger or thirst. and be assured Gods promise he will raise you on the last day
How can you LOSE the fact you who were dead are made alive. Not by works of righteousness which you do. But By Gods Mercy
How do you Lose the seal of the spirit. Gods seal placed upon you until the day of redemption (resurrections day)
How can you Lose the fact you have been adopted into Gods family. does he just kick you out on the streets and say do not come back?

more importantly., The wage of sin is death, How can you add any work, or works to make up for one sin. And finally Gods requirement is perfection. If you can not meet Gods standard at any time. How can you fall back below it to lose salvation.

I know you know this, whenever someone's interpretations of passages conflicts with plainly stated, clearly written Scripture, we know their understanding is incomplete.

One of my favorite passages concerning this topic is the one you alluded to, that He has sealed us unto the day of redemption. He's paid for us, and put His seal of ownership on us, sealed to show we are His property, to preserve His right of possession until the day He comes to retrieve His purchased possession. Who is able to unseal what God has sealed? No one!

Much love!