Is Jesus God

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Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.comIs Jesus God?He thought he was. Jesus does not see himself as one in a line of prophets, preceded by John the Baptist and followed by Muhammad. As far as Jesus is concerned, the line of prophets had ended — John was the last. He, Jesus, is in a different class ... he is the obedient son of the vineyard owner. mark 12:1-11.. Jesus categorically drew a line between himself and the previous prophets.I believe he is. If you think Jesus is a prophet, then you must believe what he says about himself. Jesus is more than a prophet.Muslims say Jesus is a prophet. ONLY a prophet. Yet the only reason they know there was a Jesus, is because of the New Testament and early church. The SON is the difference, and is why Islam does not come from the same tree.My challenge to Muslims is this: You cannot accept Jesus as a prophet, UNLESS you accept what he said about himself, which will reveal he certainly thought he was more than a prophet.Now if you argue that the Bible is corrupt, then you have to throw out the prophet angle as well. How do you know that part about a prophet is not corrupt as well?What did Jesus say about himself?HE SAID HE WAS GODHe used a term that so angered the Jews he was speaking to, that they were ready to stone him.The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. (John 8:57-59)What did he say? he said he was "I AM" The very same words God used to describe himself to Moses,Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers has sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say unto the children of Israel, I AM has sent me unto you.The Jews knew exactly what he was saying here. They wanted to Kill him.Again:"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)AS THE SON OF GODAnd Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)THE WAY TO GODJesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)Jesus therefore said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." They said therefore to Him, "Lord, evermore give us this bread." Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." (John 6:32-35)HIS MISSION ON EARTH SAVIOUR"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:16-18)And many other things were written about him. If you are going to accept him as a prophet, you have to accept what he said about himself.**********************Most Muslims know very little about the historical figure of Jesus of Nazareth. The Qur’an contains little about him, indeed most of what is recorded are merely extended birth narratives. Whilst it is said that he taught great crowds, little information is given as to the content of that teaching. The Qur’an records no sermons, no parables, none of his gentle words to the poor and dispossessed, none of his cutting challenges to the religious establishment of the day; it is all missing. For that, one needs to turn to the New Testament and to the gospels.When one raises the question of Jesus, Muslims are often quick to ask “we honour Jesus Christ, why do you not honour Muhammad?” But I would challenge my Muslim friends and readers with this — if I were to say ‘oh, I honour Muhammad, he was a great racing car driver!’ you would look at me as if I were mad; you see, the key concern is not whether one claims to honour somebody or not, but firstly whether one actually knows what they stood for. Until Muslims know what Jesus said, did, and claimed to be, then for them to claim that they honour Jesus is at best misleading.A Muslim may say, the Christian does not know much about the Qur'an. If they read the Qur'an, they would honour Muhammad. However, it is because of the things Jesus taught, that the Christian does not look to the Qur'an for answers. At the same time Muslims lay a claim to Christ, not knowing who or what Christ really is, or what he said and taught.Read about Jesus from the New Testament. See what says he, whom you honour as a prophet.

 

[Simple]

Peace Be upon You,The reason that Muslims know about Jeasus a.s and believe in Him, as a Messenger of God, is through Quran and the teachings of their Messenger, Muhammad P.b.u.H. Islam welcomes intellectual discussions. Thus, if christian brethren believe that Muslims have incorrect belief regarding Jeasus, then they should be able to justify their belief, of Jeasus being God, with reasoning. Regarding the challenge to Muslims, surely if it can be established that firstly, Jeasus did claim of being God and secondly, if He did make such a claim (lets just assume this for the sake of argument), then the justification of this 'claim', by which I mean, being able to answer the questions that may pop up in the minds of seekers of knowledge, irrespective of whether they are Muslims or come from another school of thought. Afterall, if a religion is a true religion of a true God, then it should be able to clarify itself and provide answers which can be understood by the sincere seekers of the truth.Regarding the claim that Muslims know very little about Jeasus, then ofcourse all Muslims are not into religious or historical studies. Same applies to Christian brethren. A lot of christians may know very little about Jeasus since other life activities keep us all occupied and we don't get enough time or motivation to study history thoroughly. Having said that, I would like to mention that Islamic literature has chapters dedicated to life and teachings of Jeasus. Although those references may differ from those available in Christian school of thought.Be blessed

 

[Jordan]

(Simple;32212)
Peace Be upon You,The reason that Muslims know about Jeasus a.s and believe in Him, as a Messenger of God, is through Quran and the teachings of their Messenger, Muhammad P.b.u.H. Islam welcomes intellectual discussions. Thus, if christian brethren believe that Muslims have incorrect belief regarding Jeasus, then they should be able to justify their belief, of Jeasus being God, with reasoning. Regarding the challenge to Muslims, surely if it can be established that firstly, Jeasus did claim of being God and secondly, if He did make such a claim (lets just assume this for the sake of argument), then the justification of this 'claim', by which I mean, being able to answer the questions that may pop up in the minds of seekers of knowledge, irrespective of whether they are Muslims or come from another school of thought. Afterall, if a religion is a true religion of a true God, then it should be able to clarify itself and provide answers which can be understood by the sincere seekers of the truth.Regarding the claim that Muslims know very little about Jeasus, then ofcourse all Muslims are not into religious or historical studies. Same applies to Christian brethren. A lot of christians may know very little about Jeasus since other life activities keep us all occupied and we don't get enough time or motivation to study history thoroughly. Having said that, I would like to mention that Islamic literature has chapters dedicated to life and teachings of Jeasus. Although those references may differ from those available in Christian school of thought.Be blessed
Lord Jesus Christ did tell us that He is God. Let me get scriptures.John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.John 10:31 - Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.John 10:32 - Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?John 10:33 - The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.Here we see that these "Jews" cast Him stones because He claim to be God. But nowhere in the scriptures where Jesus Christ did apologize to these Jews for claiming to be God.There is scriptures also saying there is no sin in Jesus Christ. (I Peter 2:22, II Corinthians 5:21, I John 3:5, Hebrews 4:15)According to Muslims believes that Jesus Christ is not Son of God.John 10:39 - Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Let me ask you a question to every Muslim. Do you have enough faith to believe what Jesus Christ says in the scripture? Can you believe in Him who can not tell a lie to you?Jag

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
Lord Jesus Christ did tell us that He is God. Let me get scriptures.John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.John 10:31 - Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.John 10:32 - Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?John 10:33 - The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.Here we see that these "Jews" cast Him stones because He claim to be God. But nowhere in the scriptures where Jesus Christ did apologize to these Jews for claiming to be God.There is scriptures also saying there is no sin in Jesus Christ. (I Peter 2:22, II Corinthians 5:21, I John 3:5, Hebrews 4:15)According to Muslims believes that Jesus Christ is not Son of God.John 10:39 - Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Let me ask you a question to every Muslim. Do you have enough faith to believe what Jesus Christ says in the scripture? Can you believe in Him who can not tell a lie to you?Jag
Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Moses (pbuh) god = son of God.Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.god = son of God/children the Most High.John 1010:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Jesus = son of God = god.So far as I concern Islam denying the term son of God for being a God also.Mean while if it's mean the one(the creature) who has close relationship with Allah (God) that keep on His command and be fair on judging some one for representative of God (angel and prophets). And Islam indeed also denied the term son of God for christian or Jews believers.Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And your question i will answer, yes we have faith that was clearly foretold regarding on what Jesus(pbuh) said event if we force to use your own scripture.Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Jordan]

You clearly misinterpret me once again Ricky. A son of God can't be God because they are not sinless,But the Son of God is Gpd because He is sinless and He proclaim to be God, so no, you really don't to hear God's Word's to be honest.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, who can save you from your sins...

 

[Thunder1]

toddsumrall.com;Is Jesus God?Todd said:If you think Jesus is a prophet, then you must believe what he says about himself. Jesus is more than a prophet.Muslims say Jesus is a prophet. ONLY a prophet. Yet the only reason they know there was a Jesus, is because of the New Testament and early church. The SON is the difference, and is why Islam does not come from the same tree.My challenge to Muslims is this: You cannot accept Jesus as a prophet, UNLESS you accept what he said about himself, which will reveal he certainly thought he was more than a prophet.Now if you argue that the Bible is corrupt, then you have to throw out the prophet angle as well. How do you know that part about a prophet is not corrupt as well?What did Jesus say about himself?AS THE SON OF GODAnd Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)THE WAY TO GODJesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)Jesus therefore said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." They said therefore to Him, "Lord, evermore give us this bread." Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." (John 6:32-35)[U]HIS MISSION ON EARTH SAVIOUR[/U]"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:16-18)[/B]And many other things were written about him. If you are going to accept him as a prophet, you have to accept what he said about himself.[/U]**********************Most Muslims know very little about the historical figure of Jesus of Nazareth. The Qur’an contains little about him, indeed most of what is recorded are merely extended birth narratives. Whilst it is said that he taught great crowds, little information is given as to the content of that teaching. The Qur’an records no sermons, no parables, none of his gentle words to the poor and dispossessed, none of his cutting challenges to the religious establishment of the day; it is all missing. For that, one needs to turn to the New Testament and to the gospels.When one raises the question of Jesus, Muslims are often quick to ask “we honour Jesus Christ, why do you not honour Muhammad?” But I would challenge my Muslim friends and readers with this — if I were to say ‘oh, I honour Muhammad, he was a great racing car driver!’ you would look at me as if I were mad; you see, the key concern is not whether one claims to honour somebody or not, but firstly whether one actually knows what they stood for. Until Muslims know what Jesus said, did, and claimed to be, then for them to claim that they honour Jesus is at best misleading.A Muslim may say, the Christian does not know much about the Qur'an. If they read the Qur'an, they would honour Muhammad. However, it is because of the things Jesus taught, that the Christian does not look to the Qur'an for answers. At the same time Muslims lay a claim to Christ, not knowing who or what Christ really is, or what he said and taught.Read about Jesus from the New Testament. See what says he, whom you honour as a prophet,Thunder1:I'm amazed that muslims are not interested in knowing more about one of their prophet, Jesus. It's mentioned in Quran and there is so much more to Jesus, His own words. Why would you not be interested to listen to Him and what He's got to say. It's like you were given a gift, it's unwrapped,you just look at it, but you don't open it and see what's inside.

 

[Jordan]

Muhammad is highly exalted than Yahshua. Man is highly exalted than God.Jag

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
You clearly misinterpret me once again Ricky. A son of God can't be God because they are not sinless,But the Son of God is Gpd because He is sinless and He proclaim to be God, so no, you really don't to hear God's Word's to be honest.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, who can save you from your sins...
Oh really, explain to me, which one that i was misinterpret on you ?You may seek for your self on psalms, it clearly said 'ĕlôhîym was son of God. The term of 'ĕlôhîym was common used by the Jews, especially to some one who represent of God Law(i.e. prophets/angel/judge).And Jesus(pbuh) claim that him self was son of God not God. It's only Jews who thought that he was, but then Jesus(pbuh) pointed to Psalms 82:6 on John 10:34 to give an explanation to Jews about what he means. And at the end he called him self with son of God, not The Most High or God. It's clearly jews has misinterpret Jesus(pbuh). Then Jesus(pbuh) gave them scripture Psalms 82:6.And all of this make sense since Jesus(pbuh) said more and less that he has God that same as Israel worship which is NOT trinity.Regards,Ricky WisnadriWallaahu a'lam.

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
Muhammad is highly exalted than Yahshua. Man is highly exalted than God.Jag
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the same as prophet Jesus(pbuh) and all other His prophets and His Messenger. None is above on Him(Huwa Allah), He is the One that to be worshiped.Quran (2:136) Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."Quran (2:285) The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys." God has spoke to prophet Muhammad s.a.w. then reveale to his follower :Quran(41:6)Say thou: "I am but a man like you: It is revealed to me by Inspiration, that your Allah is one Allah: so stand true to Him, and ask for His Forgiveness." And woe to those who join gods with Allah,- Quran (42:15) Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires; but say: "I believe in the Book which Allah has sent down; and I am commanded to judge justly between you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal. Jesus (pbuh) has sent message from God to Israel :Mark 1212:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Jordan]

Do you really believe that junk? Did Muhammad came down from Heaven?Jag

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
Do you really believe that junk? Did Muhammad came down from Heaven?Jag
Quran(6:48). We send the messengers only to give good news and to warn: so those who believe and mend (their lives),- upon them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. Quran(6:49).But those who reject our signs,- them shall punishment touch, for that they ceased not from transgressing.This is only my opinion but this is the wisdom of what i get from you guys. For so many sign that God has shown regarding on His Messenger prophet Muhammad (pbuh), but a lot of them were still blind, and make them self blind and close their heart.What happen to Jesus(pbuh) was happen to prophet Muhammad (pbuh).Jews has ignore what Jesus(pbuh) has revealed, and christian and others has done the same thing.Only in God Hands all of thing will be take to account. Quran(43:44). The (Qur'an) is indeed the message, for thee and for thy people; and soon shall ye (all) be brought to account. Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Thunder1]

Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimRicky said:What happen to Jesus(pbuh) was happen to prophet Muhammad (pbuh).Jews has ignore what Jesus(pbuh) has revealed, and christian and others has done the same thing.Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1: Ricky I disagree with you saying, what happened to Jesus, happened to Muhammed. Where did you get that one?Yep, you are right that Jews have ignored what Jesus has revealed,but many Jews have found Jesus as their Saviour. And yes, some so called Christians, have turned to their own ways, away from whole truth and also Muslims don't take the whole teaching about Jesus , but many Muslims have found Jesus as their Saviour,too

 

[Ricky W]

Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Thunder1;32359)
Ricky said:What happen to Jesus(pbuh) was happen to prophet Muhammad (pbuh).Jews has ignore what Jesus(pbuh) has revealed, and christian and others has done the same thing.Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1: Ricky I disagree with you saying, what happened to Jesus, happened to Muhammed. Where did you get that one?Yep, you are right that Jews have ignored what Jesus has revealed,but many Jews have found Jesus as their Saviour. And yes, some so called Christians, have turned to their own ways, away from whole truth and also Muslims don't take the whole teaching about Jesus , but many Muslims have found Jesus as their Saviour,too
What i meant first sentences was on second sentences.Well what you have said, that's depend on which side do you, i might have the same reason with you, however what i meant on my first was the second one.I'm afraid i've to say this, mostly moslems who became christian because they are looking for welfare rather then seeing Jesus as God, and most of them was non education background(at least this is what I'm seeing in my country). And i have say this as well that, it's only little and among the Islamic scholars who became christian, and again it wasn't because they are believing in Jesus as God, but because of their own desire who want take small amount of money for their temporary living in this world. And the others like the christian who pretend to be moslem before then convert, then when they are told their witness they done a lot of fallacy, event has to use verse that wasn't exist in the quran but they say it was from the Quran(silly indeed), but that is the fact goes around here. Event there is one of the case that appear around my wife neighborhood. When they asked why they converted, they said at least i got the money and has my home back(they used to rent a house).Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Thunder1]

Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimRicky:What i meant first sentences was on second sentences.Well what you have said, that's depend on which side do you, i might have the same reason with you, however what i meant on my first was the second one.Thunder1:If I read previous text, it is confusing... sorry I did not get that one. Do you mean same things happened to Jesus and Muhammed ? Do you mean that they both are just prophets?Ricky: I'm afraid i've to say this, mostly moslems who became christian because they are looking for welfare rather then seeing Jesus as God, and most of them was non education background(at least this is what I'm seeing in my country). And i have say this as well that, it's only little and among the Islamic scholars who became christian, and again it wasn't because they are believing in Jesus as God, but because of their own desire who want take small amount of money for their temporary living in this world. And the others like the christian who pretend to be moslem before then convert, then when they are told their witness they done a lot of fallacy, event has to use verse that wasn't exist in the quran but they say it was from the Quran(silly indeed), but that is the fact goes around here. Event there is one of the case that appear around my wife neighborhood. When they asked why they converted, they said at least i got the money and has my home back(they used to rent a house).Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1ossibly some,but that's not case everywhere. It's sad when money becomes their motive. I've seen some ex-muslims converting to Christianity,who have a good background, they don't need extra money and nobody is forcing them to become Christians, they are not just happy spiritually with their religion. They are looking answers, they are not satisfied in Islam.God Bless,Thunder1

 

[desertdude]

First of all salam alikum or shalom ,which evr u prefer as both mean the same.This is my first post on this forum .Little intro.I'm not a scholar or even a student of any religon just ur average joe. But have a little interest in comparative religon. As a current flow of the topic has drifted to numbers of conversions from muslims to christianity and vice versa,I believe if u look at any satistic in western world ( America ,Europe etc etc ) published by any body.It is cleary evident that the number of non muslims accepting islam far out numbers the "so called muslims "accepting other faiths.Islam is the fastest growing religon in the US specially after 9/11 and the majority of them are women. And if u dont believe the numbers just look around you .

 

[Thunder1]

Our God is in control of the whole universe though. It's about our true living God.

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim1. Thunder1, how come "God" has God ?2. Does the Jews also worshiping Jesus as God ?3. If they are not worshiping him, then why Jesus asked them to worship God that same as Jews, which mean Jesus (pbuh) also worship God that Jews has ?Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Thunder1]

Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimRicky:1. Thunder1, how come "God" has God ?Thunder1:God does not have God. There is only one ,true living God.Ricky:2. Does the Jews also worshiping Jesus as God ?Thunder1:Jews worship God.Many Jews are still waiting Jesus to come for the first time to deliver them. Many other jews have already found Jesus as their Saviour from their sins, The Messiah. They are called Messianic Jews. And They belive same way as Christians do, that you need Jesus as the deliverer from your sins. - That Jesus The Messiah is the only way TO God.Ricky:3. If they are not worshiping him, then why Jesus asked them to worship God that same as Jews, which mean Jesus (pbuh) also worship God that Jews has ?Wallaahu a'lamThunder1:Jews are worshipping God, as I said they are still waiting Jesus to come as their deliverer BUT for the first time, even Jesus the Son of God, already has been from the beginning and died for their sins already. God has opened the eyes of many Jews though , to understand that Jesus has already died for their sins, these are the Messianic Jews, they believe same way than Christians do and are waiting Jesus to come for us the second time.God Bless,Thunder1

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimMark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 1. Thunder1, how come "God" has God ?2. Does the Jews also worshiping Jesus as God ?3. If they are not worshiping him, then why Jesus asked them to worship God that same as Jews, which mean Jesus (pbuh) also worship God that Jews has ?Please, coherence what i'm asking with those verse.Wallaahu a'lam.

 

[Thunder1]

Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimRicky:Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Please, coherence what i'm asking with those verse.Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1:That there is only one God.God Bless,Thunder1