Is my understanding of the timeline of end-times events accurate?

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ewq1938

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They are all related to the Day the Lord will reset our civilization, to a similar degree as He did in the time of Noah.
Denial of what we are plainly told will happen, is not sensible.

Relating fire to a day that speaks of no fire is what is not sensible. Not being able to understand that the second coming is the event the 6th seal is describing isn't sensible. Thinking there is a firery destruction 7 years before the second coming is strange and unscriptural.
 

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Relating fire to a day that speaks of no fire is what is not sensible. Not being able to understand that the second coming is the event the 6th seal is describing isn't sensible. Thinking there is a firery destruction 7 years before the second coming is strange and unscriptural.
We have a clear description of the glorious Return of Jesus to the earth, Revelation 19:11;21 and the only mention of fire there, is the Lake of fire, the fate of the 'beast and the false prophet.
The attacking armies are not burned at all, as their corpses become food for the birds.

The Lord's sudden and shocking Day of fiery wrath will happen more than 7 years before the Return, as the One World Govt has to be established first.
 

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Apparently, you don't understand Heb. 10:20.
Hebrews 10:20 is simply pointing to Christ's death on the cross by which He became the one Perfect Sacrifice for sin, and thus by Faith on Him for the remission of sins of those who believe on The Father and His Son and His Plan of Salvation. It's not about Christ's flesh becoming God's River or His house, or the Tree of Life, which will be real literal manifestations upon this earth set for the future time of Christ's millennial reign and thereafter.
 

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So then, in WHICH temple does God the Father and God the Son desire to live in, of Whom "are the temple of it"?
There you go again, like a stuck record needle, not understanding how the idea of the spiritual temple is simply a metaphor for Christ's Church via The Spirit, while the "temple of God" that Apostle Paul mentioned the "man of sin" will exalt himself with, is actually about a new Jewish 3rd temple built in Jerusalem by the orthodox Jews for the end of this world, in prep for the coming Antichrist.
 

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Thankfully, I don't fit into the mold that you present.
As a "progressive amilennialist", I actually do study the Bible according to Paul's understanding 1 Cor. 2
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
>Through the mind of Christ, who is within me.

Therefore, I don't concern myself with how others view me. I am not interested in seeking to be in line with what the majority think or say.
2 Cor. 10
[12] For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
Amillennialism is a doctrine from men, NOT from God's Word.

It began in the 2nd century A.D., about the time of the false Gnostics that crept into Christ's Church.

The 1st century Church fathers were all Post-tribulational, Pre-millennialists (i.e., Christ's return at the end of the "great tribulation", and His 1,000 years reign being literal, and beginning at His return.)

And you should... concern yourself with what you choose to believe, because Christ's Church is not a social club where members just 'blindly' agree with its directors. If a Church isn't teaching God's Word as written, then that is not a church, but a social club. And God called such a place a 'beth'aven', which means a 'house of vanity'.
 
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We have a clear description of the glorious Return of Jesus to the earth, Revelation 19:11;21 and the only mention of fire there, is the Lake of fire, the fate of the 'beast and the false prophet.
The attacking armies are not burned at all, as their corpses become food for the birds.

The Lord's sudden and shocking Day of fiery wrath will happen more than 7 years before the Return, as the One World Govt has to be established first.


There is no such thing. You have misinterpreted prophecy. The time of God's wrath is the second coming, not 7 years before and fire is not used to kill.
 

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You have misinterpreted prophecy
You reject and dismiss Prophecy, to your discredit.

Romans 1:18-20 Divine Retribution will be seen by all, falling from heaven on all the impiety and wickedness of men and women who deny the truth. 1 Samuel 2:10
For all that can be known about God lies plain before their eyes. His invisible power and divine nature are knowable to any reasonable mind, so all are without excuse and their conduct is indefensible. Hebrews 11:6

Romans 1:21-32 These ungodly people know that there must be a Creator, but they refuse to acknowledge or give thanks to Him. So now, their thinking has become futile and their misguided minds are plunged into darkness. They claim to be wise, but they have just made fools of themselves. Psalms 14:1-3
Therefore God has given them over to all kinds of perversions and idolatries, while actually knowing God’s righteous decree that those who behave like this deserve to die, but they continue in their depravity and approve of the same conduct in others. Job 22:12-13

Romans 2:5-11 God’s kindness and patience is allowing us time to come to repentance, but if people refuse His gift of salvation, then on the Day of Retribution, all will be justly judged according to their deeds. His wrath awaits those who are governed by selfish ambition, who refuse obedience to the truth and who take evil for their guide. Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 29:19-21, Isaiah 65:11-12
To both the Israelites and Gentiles who pursue glory, honour and immortality by living a righteous life, God will reward them with eternal life. Hosea 2:19 God has no favourites.


2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just that God should pay back those godless peoples and give the righteous relief. This will happen when [the power of] the Lord Jesus is seen in the sky in a blazing fire, punishment will fall upon all who do not obey the gospel and they will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from His presence. Isaiah 59:18
On that great Day, Jesus will come and reveal His glory amongst all believers in Him.
Only revealed to His believers. Jeremiah 31:2-3, Revelation 14:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For those who deliberately persist in sin while knowing the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of God’s judgement, of a fierce fire that will consume His enemies. Habakkuk 3:12, Malachi 4:1

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 On that Day, the Lord will come as a thief, the sky will disappear with a great roar and the earth will be devastated by fire. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 34:2-4, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:14, Jeremiah 30:23-24
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.

None of these Bible quotes fit with or refer to the Return of Jesus in His glory, seen by all mankind, at the commencement of His Millennium reign. Revelation 19:11

It is an event before that, where the Lord makes ‘fire fall from heaven’, His great Day of Retribution against His enemies’. It is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event that we can expect. It is a terrible punishment by fire, that will punish the ungodly, a massive explosion of the suns surface, which will firstly devastate the Middle East, but also dramatically affect the whole world. Psalms 83, Micah 4:1 & 3, Jeremiah 10:18
 

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You reject and dismiss Prophecy, to your discredit.


Hardly. You didn't even quote the 6th seal. Most you cite don't even mention fire. The ones that do either aren't speaking of fire as a weapon, or aren't prophecies related to the timeframe of the 6th seal. You have literally used eisegesis to create your own version of the 6th seal.

You can't just cite any ole OT prophecy that has the word fire in it and force it into the events of the 6th seal which has nothing to do with fire anyways. That alone should have made you drop this whole thing long ago.
 

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Hardly. You didn't even quote the 6th seal. Most you cite don't even mention fire. The ones that do either aren't speaking of fire as a weapon, or aren't prophecies related to the timeframe of the 6th seal. You have literally used eisegesis to create your own version of the 6th seal.

You can't just cite any ole OT prophecy that has the word fire in it and force it into the events of the 6th seal which has nothing to do with fire anyways. That alone should have made you drop this whole thing long ago.
Forget it, he's not gonna' change belief in that false weird idea about a modified Jew's theory on extreme global warming. The Jew's false ideas on that go along with their false ideas about being protected in the ground too. Hiding in the ground will be exactly the WRONG place to be on the "day of The Lord" when Jesus returns. This whole earth is going to shake on that day, breaking up all those underground habitations of those who think to hide in the holes of the rocks.
 

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Relating fire to a day that speaks of no fire is what is not sensible. Not being able to understand that the second coming is the event the 6th seal is describing isn't sensible. Thinking there is a firery destruction 7 years before the second coming is strange and unscriptural.
Then you are stuck. Revelation 19 does not mention fire either. I guess that means the Second Coming cannot happen at all??
 
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