Is The Birds and the Bees a "fraud?"

[ScottA]

Are parents lying to their children with deceitful stories about the stork coming and the birds and the bees???

Just KIDDING!

You all need to lighten up on the fairy tales. Nothing better to do than go after loving parents who have no intention of misleading their children away from God? You sound like Pharisees.

Let the children be children.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Are parents lying to their children with deceitful stories about the stork coming and the birds and the bees???

Just KIDDING!

You all need to lighten up on the fairy tales. Nothing better to do than go after loving parents who have no intention of misleading their children away from God? You sound like Pharisees.

Let the children be children.

I think some people are more ill than others. But I think mental illness is a plague that has run rampant in some people around the world.

Many mentally ill people embrace religion with a level of obsession since obsession is part of the nature of being mentally ill. The vast majority of conspiracy theories have come from paranoid individuals that are mentally ill.

But get a mentally ill person to become religious and they take it way too far.

/endrant

 

[Lambano]

First Santa Claus and now the Stork’s not real? My whole world-view is crumbling!

 

[ScottA]

I think some people are more ill than others. But I think mental illness is a plague that has run rampant in some people around the world.

Many mentally ill people embrace religion with a level of obsession since obsession is part of the nature of being mentally ill. The vast majority of conspiracy theories have come from paranoid individuals that are mentally ill.

But get a mentally ill person to become religious and they take it way too far.

/endrant

Hmmm.. Sad.

 

[ScottA]

First Santa Claus and now the Stork’s not real? My whole world-view is crumbling!

Yah, hate to break it to you--things are not what they seem.

 

[Lambano]

First Santa Claus and now the Stork’s not real? My whole world-view is crumbling!

Next you’ll say the Tooth Fairy isn’t real either!

 

[amadeus]

Are parents lying to their children with deceitful stories about the stork coming and the birds and the bees???

Just KIDDING!

You all need to lighten up on the fairy tales. Nothing better to do than go after loving parents who have no intention of misleading their children away from God? You sound like Pharisees.

Let the children be children.

Amen! Do not insist they leave childhood before they need to or... Rather...?

"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matt 18:3-4

Solomon wrote the following words, 3000 years ago. Who among us is qualified in every case to properly train them?

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Prov. 22:6

Must one first become as a child before training a child?

Should one stop reading or writing fictional stories prior to training a child?

Should one stop providing children with toys which may cause them to imagine fictional stories?

How much truth should we tell a child? How much truth do we know?

 

[ScottA]

Should one stop reading or writing fictional stories prior to training a child?

Obviously, fiction is evil. Plain and simple.

(Just kidding, again)

 

[Raccoon1010]

Hmmm.. Sad.

It's not really their fault so it is sad. It's a product of the illness. I've found there are many ill people that frequent forums like these that will not take their medication as prescribed by their doctor or they won't see a doctor. See the article on wikipedia regarding such things: Hyperreligiosity - Wikipedia

Hyperreligiosity is a psychiatric disturbance in which a person experiences intense religious beliefs or episodes that interfere with normal functioning. Hyperreligiosity generally includes abnormal beliefs and a focus on religious content or even atheistic content, which interferes with work and social functioning. Hyperreligiosity may occur in a variety of disorders including epilepsy, psychotic disorders and frontotemporal lobar degeneration. Hyperreligiosity is a symptom of Geschwind syndrome, which is associated with temporal lobe epilepsy.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Don't worry you're not alone if you celebrate Christmas. So why are so many on boards like this against Christmas? Hard to truly say:
Christmas also celebrated by many non-Christians

Nearly all U.S. Christians (96%) say they celebrate Christmas. No big surprise there. But a new Pew Research Center survey also finds that 81% of non-Christians in the United States celebrate Christmas, testifying to the holiday’s wide acceptance – or, at least, its unavoidability – in American society.

 

[APAK]

Don't worry you're not alone if you celebrate Christmas. So why are so many on boards like this against Christmas? Hard to truly say:
Christmas also celebrated by many non-Christians

Nearly all U.S. Christians (96%) say they celebrate Christmas. No big surprise there. But a new Pew Research Center survey also finds that 81% of non-Christians in the United States celebrate Christmas, testifying to the holiday’s wide acceptance – or, at least, its unavoidability – in American society.

You seem proud to be in the same company, physically and (spiritually?) as the non-believers? I may be wrong.
If you really celebrate Christmas how do you do it? Purely as a non-believer, who does not care about Christ whatever day he was born on? They just want new stuff and to party, with having time off to even clear a decent hangover.

Do you come with the same perspective of Christ having the same Spirit of truth as he?
Let me tell you why I say these things as I've said to others in the past. He's a little glimpse into my point through only one personal experience.

My wife and I slumbered over at one of my younger sisters during the Christmas season, even to the New Year's Day. There were quite a few children as nieces and nephews over, at her large home. On Christmas Day, after presents were given out and orders were given to hang loose for the fiddles, as the kitchen was hopping and you could feel the heat from it, and as my sister was already putting a few away, I decided to get some of the children together in a quieter part of the house to tell them the story and meaning of the birth of Christ. I had my Bible in-hand and it was easy for me to flip to nearly all the pertinent passages. As I spoke to their level, about the child of Salvation, my sister, trying to be quiet and hidden, surprisingly looked at me quite stunned and came over closer to see what I was reading to her children and others. As if she didn't want me to feed her children 'bad' things or ideas. She was not used to having anyone speak about Christ, especially from a Bible. As if she wanted to tell me it was out of place and I wished I would stop it - On her day of celebration. It was obvious she was frazzled and nervous. I just when out of the room quietly and never said anything to her.

She is a club member of the RCC and proud it. A sister of mine and didn't like the Bible read, the Day of Christmas of all days. I believe she is not of Christ, although that is just my opinion.

The following scripture verses sing out to me every time I remember this profound family experience and similar ones by other religious persons:

"Little children, you are of God, and have overcome them; for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world, therefore what they say is of the world, and the world listens to them. We are of God. Whoever knows God listens to us, and he who is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. (1 John 4:4-6 RSV)

Can you identify with this devin?

 

[Raccoon1010]

You seem proud to be in the same company, physically and (spiritually?) as the non-believers? I may be wrong.
If you really celebrate Christmas how do you do it? Purely as a non-believer, who does not care about Christ whatever day he was born on? They just want new stuff and to party, with having time off to even clear a decent hangover.

Do you come with the same perspective of Christ having the same Spirit of truth as he?
Let me tell you why I say these things as I've said to others in the past. He's a little glimpse into my point through only one personal experience.

My wife and I slumbered over at one of my younger sisters during the Christmas season, even to the New Year's Day. There were quite a few children as nieces and nephews over, at her large home. On Christmas Day, after presents were given out and orders were given to hang loose for the fiddles, as the kitchen was hopping and you could feel the heat from it, and as my sister was already putting a few away, I decided to get some of the children together in a quieter part of the house to tell them the story and meaning of the birth of Christ. I had my Bible in-hand and it was easy for me to flip to nearly all the pertinent passages. As I spoke to their level, about the child of Salvation, my sister, trying to be quiet and hidden, surprisingly looked at me quite stunned and came over closer to see what I was reading to her children and others. As if she didn't want me to feed her children 'bad' things or ideas. She was not used to having anyone speak about Christ, especially from a Bible. As if she wanted to tell me it was out of place and I wished I would stop it - On her day of celebration. It was obvious she was frazzled and nervous. I just when out of the room quietly and never said anything to her.

She is a club member of the RCC and proud it. A sister of mine and didn't like the Bible read, the Day of Christmas of all days. I believe she is not of Christ, although that is just my opinion.

The following scripture verses sing out to me every time I remember this profound family experience and similar ones by other religious persons:

"Little children, you are of God, and have overcome them; for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world, therefore what they say is of the world, and the world listens to them. We are of God. Whoever knows God listens to us, and he who is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. (1 John 4:4-6 RSV)

Can you identify with this devin?

You got that completely in error. I have family I spend time with in Christ. I also make Jesus a birthday card.

 

[APAK]

You got that completely in error. I have family I spend time with in Christ. I also make Jesus a birthday card.

You could have fooled me by your latest words on the subject. Emitting mixed signals....I guess you have cleared it up then. Thanks.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Are parents lying to their children with deceitful stories about the stork coming and the birds and the bees???

Just KIDDING!

You all need to lighten up on the fairy tales. Nothing better to do than go after loving parents who have no intention of misleading their children away from God? You sound like Pharisees.

Let the children be children.

I know all about this. It's actually when mommy and daddy "work together."

Not to get too graphic, but the baby actually comes out of "the private spot"

The seriousness of these issues cannot be overstated.

 

[quietthinker]

Are parents lying to their children with deceitful stories about the stork coming and the birds and the bees???

Just KIDDING!

You all need to lighten up on the fairy tales. Nothing better to do than go after loving parents who have no intention of misleading their children away from God? You sound like Pharisees.

Let the children be children.

Feed the children with lies and gaiety with lots of smiles and you are setting them up to know you have no qualms in lying to them with a straight face. You even encourage them to follow in your footsteps all without the intention of being misleading......and the culture of lies is born with swaddling clothes and perpetuated.
No wonder there's a wide road that heads South!

 

[ScottA]

Feed the children with lies and gaiety with lots of smiles and you are setting them up to know you have no qualms in lying to them with a straight face. You even encourage them to follow in your footsteps all without the intention of being misleading......and the culture of lies is born with swaddling clothes and perpetuated.
No wonder there's a wide road that heads South!

I recommend your take it all up with God and His use of parables when talking to and teaching His children. Or expect the same measure as you have extended. Good luck with that.

 

[Enoch111]

First Santa Claus and now the Stork’s not real? My whole world-view is crumbling!

Perhaps a dose of Aesop's Fables might help. You could start with the Stork and the Fox. Or the Farmer and the Stork.

The Farmer & the Stork
A Stork of a very simple and trusting nature had been asked by a gay party of Cranes to visit a field that had been newly planted. But the party ended dismally with all the birds entangled in the meshes of the Farmer's net.

The Stork begged the Farmer to spare him.

"Please let me go," he pleaded. "I belong to the Stork family who you know are honest and birds of good character. Besides, I did not know the Cranes were going to steal."

"You may be a very good bird," answered the Farmer, "but I caught you with the thieving Cranes and you will have to share the same punishment with them."

Lesson: You are judged by the company you keep.