Is The Book Of Daniel Wrong?

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To All,

Please allow the continuation, per Part 4 of ~6:


VIETNAM WAR -- (1965 - 1975)

Tet Offensive -- (1968)

DANIEL 11:10 “His sons shall wage war and assemble a multitude of great forces, which shall come on and overflow and pass through, and again shall carry the war as far as his fortress. 11 Then the king of the south, moved with anger, shall come out and fight with the king of the north; and he shall raise a great multitude, but it shall be given into his hand. 12 And when the multitude is taken, his heart shall be exalted, and he shall cast down tens of thousands, but he shall not prevail. 13 For the king of the north shall again raise a multitude greater than the former; and after some years he shall come on with a great army and abundant supplies.”

Verse 13 describes the massive January 31, 1968 Tet offensive which was the most substantially manned, supplied, and supported North Vietnamese offensive in the history of the war. This was a coordinate attack on more than 100 villages and cities, including Saigon, with the battle for Hue lasting for more than three weeks. Interestingly, Daniel doesn’t note the ‘winner’ possibly because the battle victory in terms of body count went to the U.S. with 1,113 Americans and at least 3,470 South Vietnamese killed, versus about 30,000 North Vietnamese killed; but the political victory went to the North Vietnamese. Before the battle even began, the North Vietnamese “knew the attack was going to have a psychological effect on the Americans. [They] were told that America was growing tired of the war.”

Vietnam War Protesters -- (1964 - 1972)

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DANIEL 11:14 “In those times many shall rise against the king of the south; and the men of violence among your own people shall lift themselves up in order to fulfill the vision; but they shall fail.”

As early as May 1964 the slogan ‘We Won’t Go’ was widely publicized. By mid-1965, 380 prosecutions were begun against men refusing to be inducted; by mid-1968 that figure was up to 3,035. By the end of 1969, there were 33,960 delinquents nationwide. These Vietnam war protesters opposed this nation’s military policies and exhibited open rebellion against the rule of society, (i.e., calling police officers pigs, avid participation in the illegal drug culture, and the outward demonstration of rebellion - long hair, anti-establishment clothing, etc.). Although they successfully focused world attention on this unpopular war, they were unsuccessful in fermenting the hoped for popular uprising against ‘the establishment.’

One interesting note to this era in American history are the two ‘peace’ symbols. The firs,t having the circular periphery, represents the earth and the inside lines represent the cross with the arms broken down. The second is the two finger "V" sign which is a hand count binary expression, which is the number "6", -- understood to be the number of "man".



Ian Steward, “Tet Offensive Still Fresh In Memories,” A.P., Albuquerque Journal, Jan. 30, 1998, p. A12
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Howard Zinn, A Peoples History Of The United States, Harper Row Publishers, NY, 1980, p 476




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[aspen]

The book of Daniel isn't wrong, but it sure is mistranslated by people with agendas - it is practically abusive.

 

[BibleScribe]

The book of Daniel isn't wrong, but it sure is mistranslated by people with agendas - it is practically abusive.

Hey Aspen,

I love what Sir Isaac Newton said regarding the Daniel 9 words presented as "seven and sixty-two":


We avoid also the doing violence to the language of Daniel, by taking the seven weeks and sixty two weeks for one number. Had that been Daniel’s meaning, he would have said sixty and nine weeks, and not seven weeks and sixty two weeks, a way of numbring used by no nation.
http://www.isaacnewt...se/pt1ch10.html


So as you astutely observed, -- I would equally observe that you are a Prophet.


And the correct translation for this audience:

Daniel 9 (ESV)
[sup]25[/sup] Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.


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To All,

Please allow the continuation, per Part 5 of ~6:


VIETNAM WAR -- (1965 - 1975)

The Fall Of South Vietnam -- (1975)

DANIEL 11:15 “Then the king of the north shall come and throw up siege works, and take a well-fortified city. And the forces of the south shall not stand, or even his picked troops for there shall be no strength to stand. 16 But he who comes against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him; and he shall stand in the glorious land, and all of it shall be in his power.”

During the Vietnam war, three countries were under communist-led insurgence: Laos, Cambodia, and South Vietnam. In April of 1974, North Vietnam stepped up their offensives. The South Vietnamese Ranger bases of Ton Le Chan and Duc Hue; three government outposts in the Central Highlands; and Base 711, south of Pleiku city, all fell under siege and were overrun.[1] In the mid-March 1975 Cambodian communist offensive, “rebel troops -- armed and trained by North Vietnam -- surrounded Pnompenh and other major cities, (and) blockaded the Mekong River, the capital’s major supply line.”[2]

In late-March, a thirteen month siege on the city Tong Le Chan, which was a strong point Ranger base 55 miles northwest of Saigon, ended. Thousands of Communist soldiers, supported by tanks, overran the 259 defenders after a four hour mortar and artillery barrage.
The taking of a “well fortified city” would appear to refer to the city of Da Nang. This was that nation’s second-largest city and the sole remaining government stronghold in northern South Vietnam.[3] President Nguyen Van Thieu’s promise to stand and hold this city proved empty. The city, swamped with panicky refugees and undisciplined soldiers, fell without a fight.[4]
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“At the port of Vungtau, near Saigon, soldiers who had escaped from the north wandered aimlessly along the waterfront. Army officers made little or no effort to regroup the stragglers into organized units. Officials seemed to feel that some of the stragglers might be Communist infiltrators. More disturbing is evidence that many units are leaderless mobs. Members of the First Division were seen throwing rifles and boots away on the beach at Hue, like troops never intending to fight again. Some elements of Marines ran amok, killing and robbing defenseless civilians.”[5]

The passage speaking of standing in the “glorious land” or “goodly land” certainly can be applied to South Vietnam. The fertile rice land around Saigon, the $780 million of U.S. supplied weapons and materials, and the $4 billion spent on airfields, naval facilities, and depots,[6] all provide a treasure-trove worthy of the term “goodly” or “glorious.”


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[1] Facts On File - World News Digest,” Vol. 44, No. 2267, NY, April 27, 1984, p. 297-298
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[2] “Cambodia: Time Running Out,” U.S. News & World Report, March 24, 1975, p. 13
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[3] “Fortress Saigon -- Bracing For A Last-Ditch Stand,” U.S. News & World Report, April 7, 1975, p. 18
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[4] “In The End, Not Even Saigon Will Hold --,” U.S. News & World Report, April 14, 1975, p. 30
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[5] IBID p. 30
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[6] Facts On File - World News Digest, Volume 35, No. 1797, NY, April 19, 1975, p. 247

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To All,

Please allow the continuation, per Part 5 of ~7:


VIETNAM WAR -- (1965 - 1975)


The North Vietnamese Purge -- (1975)

DANIEL 11:17 “He shall set his face to come with the strength of his whole kingdom, and he shall bring terms of peace and perform them. He shall give him the daughter of women to destroy the kingdom; but it shall not stand or be to his advantage.”

After the North Vietnamese gained power, all conventional market place and ‘normal’ living practices were reconstructed in the name of ‘communist re-education.’ This included capital punishment, harsh forced labor, and minimal subsistence conditions as dictated under the communist run ‘communal farms.’

As used in 11:6, the “daughter of the king of the south” was a politically generated and driven machination. This “daughter of women” appears to be of the same genre, this time being the CIA.

In late July of 1975, (3 months after the fall of South Vietnam), resistance was reported as follows:
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“Washington is hearing that anti-Communist guerrilla operations are being stepped up in Vietnam. Latest reports tell of hit-and-run attacks on Red Forces in two coastal areas -- one in Phuoc Tuy Province, the other near Vunt Tau, a resort city. Former South Vietnamese paratroopers are credited with the raids.”[1]

When Ho Chi Minh used guerrilla tactics, his tactics and perseverance were both effective and ultimately successful. It should come as no surprise that the CIA should attempt to use these same tactics to harass and possibly overthrow this newly organizing communistic government. Unfortunately, the CIA methods were contrived, using mercenaries rather than popular uprisings with nationalistic idealisms and aspirations. Daniel called this attempt “to destroy the kingdom” the strategy of using “the daughter of women.”


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[1] “Washington Whispers,” U.S. News & World Report, August 4, 1975, p. 8


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To All,

Please allow the final portion of the Vietnam War, -- Part 6 of 6:


VIETNAM WAR -- (1965 - 1975)

The End Of The North Vietnamese Aggression -- (1975)

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DANIEL 11:18 “Afterward he shall turn his face to the coastlands, and shall take many of them; but a commander shall put an end to his insolence; indeed he shall turn his insolence back upon him. 19 Then he shall turn his face back toward the fortresses of his own land; but he shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found.”

Both landlocked Laos and coastal Cambodia fell to Communist North Vietnam, with Thailand, under the influx of refugees, reduced to defending its own border. South Vietnam had 600 miles of coastline, and Cambodia had 150 miles, for a total of 750 miles. This gave North Vietnam ocean frontage from the South China Sea to the Gulf of Siam.


The Freighter, Mayaguez -- (1975)

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DANIEL 11:18 “Afterward he shall turn his face to the coastlands, and shall take many of them; but a commander shall put an end to his insolence; indeed he shall turn his insolence back upon him. 19 Then he shall turn his face back toward the fortresses of his own land; but he shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found.”

The description of a commander who puts an end to the “insolence,” bespeaks of an act of open sea piracy which occurred on May 12, 1975. In international waters, 60 miles from the Cambodian coast and eight miles from the rocky upcroppings called the Wai Islands, a Cambodian gunboat fired on and boarded the Sea-Land freighter Mayaguez. When initial U.S. diplomatic efforts were unfruitful, President Ford alerted and dispatched the western Pacific Air Force, Naval, and Marine forces.

On May 14th, in a display of assertiveness, U.S. carrier based aircraft sank three Cambodian gunboats and bombed the Cambodian Ream airbase - cratering the runway, and destroying 17 planes and one hanger. Also, 200 marines were landed on Tang Island, while a second contingency of Marines boarded the Mayaguez searching vainly for the 39 crewmen. It was on Tang Island that Cambodian small arms resistance accounted for the downing of five of the eleven U.S. helicopters deployed. One third of the 200 marines were either killed or wounded. In addition to the battle field losses, 23 Americans died enroute to the hostilities.

A total of 41 Americans died in the attempted rescue of the 39 Mayaguez crewmen. Ironically, 14 hours before the U.S. attack began, successful Chinese diplomatic negotiations yielded a soon expected release of the crewmen. Ironically, the crew’s release occurred while operations were yet ongoing.[1]
The orders to proceed, and even continue, were to prove “the test of American determination in Southeast Asia that, they asserted, the U.S. had been seeking since the collapse of allied governments in South Vietnam and Cambodia.”[2]

After this military confrontation, the Vietnamese and Cambodian governments ceased overt aggression, limited to border skirmishes and ‘mop-up’ ventures.


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[1] Facts On File - World News Digest, Volume 35, No. 1801, NY, May 17, 1975, p. 329​

[2] Howard Zinn, A Peoples History Of The United States, Harper Row Publishers, NY, 1980, p. 476​

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Please allow the Richard Nixon prophecy, -- Part 1 of 3:


PRESIDENT NIXON’S RESIGNATION, PRESIDENT FORD’S APPOINTMENT

DANIEL 11:20 “Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute through the glory of the kingdom; but within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle. 21 In his place shall arise a contemptible person to whom royal majesty has not been given; he shall come in without warning and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”​

These two verses refer to the Executive Branch of the United States government. The term “exactor tribute” is indicative of the President’s submission of the National Budget to Congress (outlining proposed spending programs and tax outlays). In fulfillment, President Richard Milhouse Nixon entered his second term of office on January 1973, by a phenomenal 60% popular vote, carrying every state except Massachusetts; but he was destined to be “broken neither in anger,” (impeachment or assassination), “nor in battle,” (battlefield loss or military coup). This living expulsion proved to be unique in American history and possibly in world history




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To All,

Please allow the Richard Nixon prophecy, -- Part 2 of 3:


PRESIDENT NIXON’S RESIGNATION, PRESIDENT FORD’S APPOINTMENT (continued)

DANIEL 11:20 “Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute through the glory of the kingdom; but within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle. 21 In his place shall arise a contemptible person to whom royal majesty has not been given; he shall come in without warning and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”​

• On June 17, five months before the November, 1972, Presidential election, five men were arrested for breaking into the Democratic National Committee offices in the Washington D.C., Watergate Hotel. In the days surrounding Nixon’s second inauguration, of the now seven defendants, two had pled guilty (Jan. 11 & 15) and two had been found guilty (Jan. 30).

Within three months, on April 30, Attorney General Richard Kleindienst and top aids John W. Dean, John D. Ehrlichman, and H.R. Halderman resigned amid charges of obstruction of justice. Within a little more than one year, on May 9, 1974, the House Judiciary Committee commenced impeachment hearings.​

• On October 10, 1973, less than nine months into his second Vice Presidential term, Spiro T. Agnew resigned from office, pleading no-contest to tax evasion charges. (Note: This was not a ‘first,’ as John C. Calhoun resigned from the office of the Vice Presidency on December 28, 1832, during the Andrew Jackson administration.)

• In October, 1973, President Nixon nominated Congressional House Minority Leader, Gerald Ford, to the vacated Vice Presidency. On December 6, 1973, in accordance with the 25[sup]th[/sup] Amendment, Ford was confirmed to that Vice Presidential office by “flatteries” in a majority vote of both houses of Congress. This was the 1st of 4 executive branch ‘firsts.’ -- (A successor to John C. Calhoun’s vacant Vice Presidential office was never nominated or appointed.)

• After 600 days into his second term, on August 8, 1974, Richard M. Nixon resigned from the office of the Presidency. In a subsequent televised interview with Richard Nixon’s daughter, Julie Eisenhower, she conveyed that her mother, Pat Nixon, felt that this extraordinary turn of events was brought about by either the CIA, an internal conspiracy, or by demonic forces. Indeed, this was a spiritually controlled event, but one that was controlled by God. This United States historical first (2nd of 4) was accompanied by yet two additional Executive Branch firsts.

• As the new unelected Vice President, Gerald Ford was positioned to precisely fulfill this prophecy (“and obtain the kingdom”) by assuming the vacated Presidency on August 9, 1974 having never been elected to any executive branch office. This was the 3rd of 4 ‘firsts.’

• And finally, this unelected President Gerald Ford nominated former New York Governor, Nelson Rockefeller, to the newly vacant Vice Presidency. Again, in accordance with the 25[sup]th[/sup] Amendment, Nelson Rockefeller was confirmed by both houses of Congress and on December 19, 1974, was appointed to the Vice Presidency. This became the 4th of 4 ‘firsts.’

The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1996, Funk & Wagnalls Corp., Mahwah, NJ, 1995, p. 506





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Please allow the Richard Nixon prophecy, -- Part 3 of 3:


PRESIDENT NIXON’S RESIGNATION, PRESIDENT FORD’S APPOINTMENT (continued)

DANIEL 11:20 “Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute through the glory of the kingdom; but within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle. 21 In his place shall arise a contemptible person to whom royal majesty has not been given; he shall come in without warning and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”
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Gerald Ford’s persona filled the editorial cartoons, Chevy Chase “Saturday Night Live” skits, and Johnny Carson monologues, as a clumsy, bumbling, “contemptible person.” His golf outings were most entertaining, as he successfully parlayed the game of golf into a ‘contact-sport’ through errant golf ball flights into the galleries.

As history matches scripture, it is also worthy to note the second of two Kennedy assassinations which pre-empted Robert F. Kennedy’s democratic presidential bid. In 1968, approaching the end of President Johnson’s term of office and getting a late start, the meteoric Robert Kennedy was destined for the Oval Office when he secured the majority of votes in the June 1968, California democratic primary. His assassination left the election to a trounced Eugene McCarthy, and victorious Richard Nixon. Had this second of two Kennedy assassinations been thwarted, Richard Nixon probably would never have been elected, and the prophesied Presidential resignation most likely could never have occurred.




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Please allow the evaluation of the Helsinki Accord, -- Part 1 of 2:

HELSINKI ACCORD & RUSSIA IN AFRICA, (1975-79)

DANIEL 11:23 “And from the time that an alliance is made with him he shall act deceitfully; and he shall become strong with a small people. [sup]24[/sup] Without warning he shall come into the richest parts of the province; and he shall do what neither his fathers nor his fathers’ fathers have done, scattering among them plunder, spoil, and goods. He shall devise plans against strongholds, but only for a time.​

The “alliance” spoken of is the Helsinki Final Act which was started in July 1973, and completed in August,1975. Its main purpose was to formulate international agreement on “subjects relating to security in Europe; cooperation in the fields of economics, science, technology and environment; (and) cooperation in humanitarian and other fields.”[1] In compliance with the accord, the Europeans vacated their colonies throughout the world, but most noticeably in Africa. As a signatory member, the Soviet leadership immediately ignored and continued to violate the human rights and fundamental freedom provisions with regard to their own citizens. But beyond their own internal defiance of this agreement, they saw an unparalleled and unprecedented opportunity in the new political vacuum of Africa (“what neither his fathers nor his fathers’ fathers have done”).

The “small peoples” depict these third world nations as itemized with the respective troop deployments and strategic resources:

AFRICAN OPPORTUNISM

NATION / TROOPS[2] / NATURAL RESOURCES[3]​

Angola / 35,000[4] / Diamonds, Coffee, Petroleum​

Congo Brazzaville / Staging Area / Petroleum​

Tanzania / 500 / --​

Equatorial Guinea / 500 / Bauxite​

Guinea / 60 / Bauxite​

Libya / -- / Natural Gas, Petroleum​

Somalia / 3,000[5] / Strategic location​

Guinea-Bissau / 20 / Bauxite​

Sierra Leone / 20 / Coffee​

Zambia / -- / Cobalt, Copper

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[1] Henry Degenhardt, Treaties and Alliances of the World, Gale, Detroit, MI, 1981, pp. 221-233​

[2] “Cuban Troops: Cat’s-Paws For Soviet Intrigues,” U.S. News & World Report, Dec. 8, 1975, p. 27​

[3] “Kissinger in Africa: A Bid to Stave Off Race War,” U.S. News & World Report, May 3, 1976, pp. 28-29​

[4] “Angolan Rebels Get Some African Support,” Knight-Ridder, Albuquerque Journal, Feb. 1, 1986, p. A10​

[5] “That Russian Base In Somalia: What Our Man Found At The Scene,” U.S. News & World Report, July 21, 1975, p. 31-32



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To All,

I just now realized that I missed the Verse 22 presentation for this 11th Chapter. I apologize, and hope you will allow me to finish the Verse 23-24 fulfillment, then present Verse 22, and finally get back on track at Verse 25. doh!!!



Please allow the evaluation of the Helsinki Accord, -- Part 2 of 2:

HELSINKI ACCORD & RUSSIA IN AFRICA, (1975-79)

DANIEL 11:23 “And from the time that an alliance is made with him he shall act deceitfully; and he shall become strong with a small people. [sup]24[/sup] Without warning he shall come into the richest parts of the province; and he shall do what neither his fathers nor his fathers’ fathers have done, scattering among them plunder, spoil, and goods. He shall devise plans against strongholds, but only for a time.​

The Soviets used Cuban mercenaries, political assassinations, and all manners of intrigues and subterfuge to effect gain, both in the ‘occupied’ countries, and also against their neighboring countries. In Angola, the Soviets supported that Marxist government (1974 to 1986) with billions of dollars in military hardware including MIG fighters, attack helicopters, and military vehicles, in addition to 1,500 Soviet military advisers and 35,000 Cuban troops. The primary resisting “stronghold” was the resource rich nation of South Africa, (diamonds, chromium, gold, platinum, uranium, and copper). Tactics against this resistor included inflaming tribal sentiments, cross-border attacks from Mozambique and Namibia, and military machinations which forced South Africa to periodically deploy troops in cross border preemptive strikes and even the temporary stationing of forces within Namibia.

When Henry Kissinger plead the case for pro-Western rebel aid necessary to fend off the Cuban mercenaries, it fell on deaf ears. The American Congress had been traumatized by the experience in Vietnam, and was in no mood for more of the same. Interestingly, China provided significant support in African resistance against this Soviet hegemony.



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To All,

I missed the Verse 22 presentation for this 11th Chapter and jumped to Verses 23-24. I apologize, and hope you will allow me to present Verse 22, and finally get back on track at Verse 25. doh!!!



Please allow the evaluation of the SALT Agreement, -- Part 1 of 2:


SALT I AND SALT II

DANIEL 11:22 “Armies shall be utterly swept away before him and broken, and the prince of the covenant also.”​

In 1969, during President Nixon’s first term of office, the United States and Soviet Union worked toward the limitation of strategic nuclear weapons in a effort called the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT, eventually known as SALT I). This document was signed and ratified in 1971 and enacted in 1972. This was the culmination of progressively diminished U.S. nuclear superiority rations from 8:1 in 1962; to 4:1 in 1967; and 1:1 in 1972. This SALT I agreement gave the U.S. a strategic ‘throw weight’ disadvantage of between 1:4 to 1:6.

The SALT II negotiations began in the fall of 1972, at the end of Nixon’s first term. They continued through the November 1974 Ford-Brezhnev Agreement at Vladivostok, and concluded during Jimmy Carter’s Presidency in late 1978. This SALT II agreement fell short of the original criteria in many ways:


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• The goal of unlimited duration was rejected.

• Parity was 576 MIRV’d (Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle) ICBM’s (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile), but the U.S. could only field 550, without being production capable prior to the expiration of the treaty.

• The Soviets were allowed up to ten warheads on select missiles, while the U.S. was allowed only three.

• The agreement left no provision for verification of nuclear weapon production, storage, or deployments.

• The U.S. agreed that the “Backfire” bomber would not be counted against the SNLV’s (Strategic Nuclear Launch Vehicle) unless equipped for a range greater than 600 kilometers (with no provision for verification).

“Meaning Of Arms-Control Pact,” U.S. News & World Report, June 5, 1972, p. 21​

Jozef Goldblat, Agreements for Arms Control: A Critical Survey, Taylor & Francis Ltd, 1982, p. 283



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To All,

I missed the Verse 22 presentation for this 11th Chapter and jumped to Verses 23-24. I apologize, and hope you will allow me to present Verse 22, and finally get back on track at Verse 25. doh!!!



Please allow the evaluation of the SALT Agreement, -- Part 2 of 2:


SALT I AND SALT II

DANIEL 11:22 “Armies shall be utterly swept away before him and broken, and the prince of the covenant also.”​

This negotiated treaty was particularly offensive to the Western Europeans, as they were already at a 1:3, 1:5, and 1:10 conventional force disadvantage (as measured in various tactical weapon categories). SALT II was ready for congressional consideration in January of 1979, and although never ratified, that current and all successive administrations since, have adhered to the terms of this fatally flawed document.

This was political climate which Daniel referred, in the sweeping away and breaking of armies.

Secondly, the breaking of the “prince of the covenant” was also to have occurred during this period of time. This event appears to be indicative of a turning from God by the Executive Branch of then President Gerald Ford. History offers no specific event as such, however during his term of office, President Ford’s wife, Betty Ford, espoused her shockingly liberal views on abortion, premarital sex, and use of marijuana as socially acceptable in light of today’s new morality. This proved a marked departure from historical adherence to Judeo/Christian values.



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The book of Daniel was written by Daniel therefore He did not die in the second year of Cyrus king of Persia. As for the book of Daniel being written in Hebrew. The oldest Hebrew texts of Daniel is 1006 AD. The dead sea scrolls have a few Hebrew texts dated 200 BC But they can not be read except through the antichrist masoretic lexicons and teachings of 1006 AD.

 

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The book of Daniel was written by Daniel therefore He did not die in the second year of Cyrus king of Persia. ...

You are correct in that Daniel did not die in the second year of "Cyrus, king of Persia", because Daniel 10:1 said he was already in the THIRD YEAR of "Cyrus, king of Persia".


Daniel 10:1

New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]1[/sup] In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar.



The fact is, Daniel died in the "first year of King Cyrus".


Daniel 1:21

New King James Version (NKJV)

[sup]21[/sup] Thus Daniel continued until the first year of King Cyrus.


Please note that in 10:1 Cyrus was only king of the Persians, but in 1:21 he was King over the Babylonians.



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To All,

Please allow the evaluation of the U.S.S.R. intrigue in Central America:


U.S.S.R. IN NICARAGUA, (1978-90)

DANIEL 11:25 “And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall wage war with an exceedingly great and mighty army; but he shall not stand, for plots shall be devised against him. [sup]26[/sup] Even those who eat his rich food shall be his undoing; his army shall be swept away, and many shall fall down slain.”​

As dictator of Nicaragua, Anastasio Somoza had the most powerful army in Central America with which to fend off any aggressor, plus the backing and support of the U.S. government, (although this alliance was predicated upon global strategic interests). Likewise, the Soviets perceived an opportunity to exploit class dissatisfactions in Nicaragua to its own strategic interests.

In 1978 a commander in Somoza’s own military ranks, Eden Pastora, (also known as Commander Zero), led 24 rebels in a successful storming of Nicaragua’s National Palace in Managua and took the Congressional members hostage. By 1979 Somoza was deposed, but within four years Eden Pastora had grown disenchanted with the Soviet sponsored revolution. In a surprise about-face he joined the U.S. sponsored guerilla resistance against this Sandinista Regime.

This was a ‘behind-the-scenes’ war, fought by both superpowers. The Soviets supplied approximately seventy MI-8, MI-24, and MI-17 troop and assault helicopters, and approximately $500 million per year from 1980 to 1989. The United States provided sophisticated SA-7 Red Eye surface-to-air missiles and $100’s of millions of C.I.A. supplied equipment and funds, $10’s of millions of Congressional approved non-lethal aid, and a nearly $30 million windfall in Irangate funds as managed by National Security Council staff member, Lt. Col. Oliver North.

This contention continued until the corrupt and nepotistic government of President Daniel Ortega Saavadra was replaced on February 25, 1990 by a government marginally acceptable to the U.S. -- a democratically elected Sra Violeta Chamorro. (Ref. Dan 11:28)


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“Ex-Nicaraguan Guerrilla Leader Goes Fishin’,” Associated Press, Albuquerque Journal, April 15, 1987, p. B10​

“Soviets Pour Arms Into Nicaragua,” Los Angeles Times, Albuquerque Journal, Oct. 28, 1986, p. A3​

“Managua Reportedly Will Get Helicopters,” Los Angeles Times, Albuquerque Journal, April 14, 1987, p. A12​

Don Oberdorfer, “Sources Say Soviets To Halt Nicaraguan Arms Aid,” Washington Post, Albuquerque Journal, May 16, 1989, p. A1​

“Managua Reportedly Will Get Helicopters,” p. A12​

Jack Anderson, and Dale Van Atta, “Greed of Sandinista Gand of Three Rivals That of Somoza,” Syndicated Columinsts, Washington, Albuquerque Jorunal, Sept. 20, 1985, p. A5




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To All,

Please allow the evaluation of the U.S.S.R. mischief in a series of events:

DANIEL 11:27 “And as for the two kings, their minds shall be bent on mischief; they shall speak lies at the same table, but to no avail; for the end is yet to be at the time appointed.”​

During this period of history, several events transpired which could be interpreted as applicable to this verse, including:

U.S. 444 Day Iranian Hostage Crisis

Iranian "students" stormed the U.S. Embassy on November 4, 1979, taking 52 American diplomats hostage, but the few attacks against the Soviet Embassy ceased. These hostages were released 20 minutes prior to the January 20, 1981 inauguration of the more assertive, newly elected Ronald Wilson Reagan.

KAL 007 Downing

On September 2, 1983, Korean Airlines flight KAL 007 was intentionally shot down by the Soviet Air Force after it intruded into Soviet airspace. President Reagan bombasted Soviet ill intent and irresponsibility, while Yuri Andropov’s government offered conflicting excuses for the deaths of the 269 passengers.

Grenada

The term “mischief” is most obvious in the events surrounding the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada.

In the fall of 1983, U.S. military analysts informed President Reagan that Cuba and the Soviet Union had supplied civilian and military personnel for the construction of an airstrip of sufficient size to handle military transport aircraft. On October 19, 1983, a hard-line Marxist junta seized power of the small island. Six days later, on Oct. 25, President Reagan ordered an invasion under the justification of protecting the more than 500 American students attending the island based medical school. With a landing force of 1,300 U.S. troops, 12 Cubans were killed and the remaining 24 Cubans and 30 Soviets were captured. The American students were evacuated, and the island’s dictator deposed.

1984 Olympics

And finally, in 1984, the Soviets declined to participate in the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. This appears to have been done in direct retribution for the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow, which was precipitated by the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

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The New York Times - Page One, p. 292​

IBID, p. 304​

“White House Pushes Funds For Contras,” A.P., Albuquerque Journal, Feb. 23, 1986, p. A5​

The New York Times - Page One, p. 306



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[BibleScribe]

To All,

Please allow the evaluation of the historical START Talks:

STRATEGIC ARMS REDUCTION TALKS (START) -- (1985 - 1987)
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DANIEL 11:27 “And as for the two kings, their minds shall be bent on mischief; they shall speak lies at the same table, but to no avail; for the end is yet to be at the time appointed.”​

The “lies at the same table” calls attention to the 1985-86 Strategic Arms Reduction Talks (START); bantering on nuclear testing moratoriums; troop reduction talks; the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI - also known as “Star Wars”); various arms control summits (Geneva - Nov. 1985, Reykjavid - Oct. 1986, Geneva - April 1987, and Washington - Dec. 1987); President Reagan’s “Zero-Option” proposal; U.S. accusations of Soviet SALT non-compliance; U.S. threats to disregard SALT II compliance; and nuclear weapon numerical increases despite a signed intermediate-range nuclear-forces (INF) treaty. This was a period of time where President Ronald Reagan and President Mikhail Gorbachev each attempted to craftily exploit the military chess board to maximize political advantage.


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Barry Schweid, “Time Begins To Grow Short for Reagan To Leave Mark in Foreign Policy Area,” A.P., Albuquerque Jorunal, Jan. 1, 1987, p. D5​

“Shultz, Soviet See Progress In Arms Talks,” A.P., Moscow, Albuquerque Journal, Feb. 22, 1988, p. A1


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[us2are1]

You are correct in that Daniel did not die in the second year of "Cyrus, king of Persia", because Daniel 10:1 said he was already in the THIRD YEAR of "Cyrus, king of Persia".


Daniel 10:1

New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]1[/sup] In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar.



The fact is, Daniel died in the "first year of King Cyrus".


Daniel 1:21

New King James Version (NKJV)

[sup]21[/sup] Thus Daniel continued until the first year of King Cyrus.


Please note that in 10:1 Cyrus was only king of the Persians, but in 1:21 he was King over the Babylonians.



BibleScribe

So what do you conclude is the problem with your understanding of this scripture?

The Persian Empire was after the Babylonian Empire and the Greeks and Romans after that.

 

[BibleScribe]

So what do you conclude is the problem with your understanding of this scripture?
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Did you miss the explanation? Did you think the Daniel 1:21 "Daniel continued until" should have been ~Daniel continued beyond~? Do you not like Scripture as written?


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To All,

Please consider that GOD's Word is concise, is validated by other Scriptures, is supported by History, and is TRUE. Unfortunately the doctrines of men assume otherwise. And where the wise build houses on rock, these build on sand (i.e., false doctrines).


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