Is The Book Of Daniel Wrong?

[BibleScribe]

To All,

Please allow the history of Iraq and the Gulf Wars, -- Desert Shield / Desert Storm, Part II of III:

SADDAM HUSSAIN -- (1970 -- 2006)

DANIEL 11:36 “And the king shall do according to his will; he shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is determined shall be done. 37 He shall give no heed to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women; he shall not give heed to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these; a god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He shall deal with the strongest fortresses by the help of a foreign god; those who acknowledge him he shall magnify with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price.”​

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6. In July of 1979, after Saddam assumed the office of the presidency he began a ruthless purge to suppress any potential challengers. “(H)undreds of party officials and military officers, some of whom were close friends and associates, perished.”​

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7. In the spring of 1980, Saddam publicly raised concerns that Iran was sponsoring unrest in the Iraqi Sunni, Shei’ite, and Kurdish factions. He clamped down on these Iraqi factions, publicly criticized the Ayatollah Khomeini, and extended assistance to Iranian separatist factions in Iran.​

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8. In April of 1980, when Iranian operatives attempted to assassinate his Deputy Premier, Tariq Aziz, Saddam executed the Shi’ite religious leader along with hundreds of Shi’ite political prisoners, and deported 100,000 Shi’ites.​

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9. On September 23, 1980, in an effort to effect control within his own populous, Saddam began a limited force and scope invasion of Iran. Five days after the assault, Saddam stopped his forces having made his point, and sought immediate peace negotiations. As the war dragged on, Saddam continued to explore any venue available to reconcile his government with the religious zealots in Tehran. Finally, eight years later in July of 1988, with Iran’s military resources exhausted, they moderated their stance against Saddam and accepted a peace plan.​

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10. In 1981, the Israeli’s launched a precision air strike against the French designed nuclear reactor in Osiraq, leveling the facilities. (During the 1970’s to late 80’s the French had become Iraq’s second largest trading partner, exchanging oil for military and consumer goods.) These facilities were carefully cultivated by Saddam both as a miltary nuclear ‘equalizer’ and the political icon of a significant regional power.​

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11. In the 1982 Fez Arab summit, Saddam joined other Arab leaders in the consensus that the states of Israel and Palestine could both exist. He later went even further and publicly supported “‘the existence of a secure state for the Israelis.’”​

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12. Starting in 1982, the U.S. sought to use Iraq against the Iranian government (partly in retribution for the 1980 to 1981 hostage crisis) by authorizing agricultural credits, providing satellite and communications information on Iranian troop movements, and indirectly supplying U.S. arms. By 1984, U.S./Iraqi diplomatic relations, severed during the 1967 Six Day War, were restored. By 1987, Iraq was receiving $1 billion in agricultural credit, the largest U.S. loan to any country.​

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13. In 1985, Saddam offered $700 million for Israel’s consensus to the laying of an oil pipeline from Iraq to Aqaba, Jordan.​

14. In early 1987, news of the U.S. administration’s Iran-Contra arms for hostages (held in Lebanon) was made public. A few short months later, in May, an Iraqi Mirage attacked the U.S. frigate Sark with two Exocet missiles, killing 37 sailors. Apologies over “mistaken identity” were accepted.​

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15. During the years 1988 to 1989, clearly four challenges were made to Saddam’s leadership. The first was a near mutiny by his military officers, openly challenging his ability to provide military strategy during the Iran/Iraq War. The second was a plan to shoot down his plane on the return leg of an Egyptian trip. A third coup attempt was aborted; and the fourth, an assassination attempt, was unsuccessful.​

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16. In 1988, at the end of the Iran/Iraq war with the inherent impact on the Iraqi standard of living, Saddam, feeling compelled to demonstrate a “peace dividend,” liberalized the Iraqi political climate and economic system. He also continued his moderate foreign policies by using statesmanship to effect the formation of the Arab Co-operation Council, and by signing a non-agression pact with Saudi Arabia.​

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17. In December of 1988, Saddam joined Egypt’s Husni Mubarak in sponsoring the PLO’s recognition of Israel’s right to exist, in spite of Syrian opposition.​

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18. In September of 1989, British citizen Farzad Bazoft, a journalist for the British newspaper, the Observer, investigated an explosion in a military complex near Bagdad. He taken under arrest, and within six months he was tried, sentenced, and executed.​

Over the course of the prior year, western intelligence noted significant conventional and nuclear weapons development. One of particular significance was a ‘supergun’ capable of launching artillery payloads as far as Israel and possibly into orbit. The Canadian large bore gun genius, Dr. Gerald Bull had been commissioned by Saddam to design and build this ‘supergun.’ Unfortunately for Dr. Bull, he was assassinated, (whether by agents of western or Israeli agencies is uncertain) after warnings not to complete the weapon’s construction.​

Now with the execution of this journalist, Western governments seized Iraqi bound nuclear and conventional weapons components. Under a near circus of media cameras, British, Greek, and Turkey customs agents impounded crate after crate of Iraqi bound hardware.​

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19. Also, still in 1990, U.S. agricultural credits had exceeded $1 billion, but Iraq was under investigation for trading these goods to other countries for arms (known as the Italian Banca Nazionale Lavoro --BLN -- scandal). In addition, increasing U.S. criticism was leveled at Saddam for “‘gross violations of human rights.’” In response, Saddam denounced the U.S. Persian Gulf presence, and escalated anti‑American sentiments.​

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20. Still at this same time period, the Soviets were allowing a mass Jewish exodus to Israel, and secret meetings were being held between Israel and Syria which alarmed Saddam. Fearing a conspiracy, he warned Israel against attacking his scientific or military facilities (anticipating a replay of the 1981 raid against the Osiraq reactor, but this time against his super-gun and other capabilities), hinting at retaliation by chemical warheads. The Israelis responded by inferring a nuclear counterstrike. Saddam subsequently used several diplomatic channels to successfully defuse the rhetoric.

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IBID, pp. 23, 24, 32​

IBID, p. 21​

Thomas B. Allen, and F. Clifton Berry, and Norman Polmar, CNN: War in the Gulf, Turner Publishing, Inc. Atlanta, GA, 1991, p. 49​

Freedman, and Karsh, pp. 29-30​

IBID, p. 22​

IBID, pp. 26-28, 31​

IBID, p. 32​

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[BibleScribe]

To All,
Please allow the history of Iraq and the Gulf Wars, -- Desert Shield / Desert Storm, Part III of III:
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SADDAM HUSSAIN -- (1970 -- 2006)
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DANIEL 11:36 “And the king shall do according to his will; he shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is determined shall be done. 37 He shall give no heed to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women; he shall not give heed to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these; a god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He shall deal with the strongest fortresses by the help of a foreign god; those who acknowledge him he shall magnify with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price.”​

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Problems continued to mount for Saddam in 1990. In 1980, at the beginning of the Iran/Iraq War, Saddam’s coffers held $35 billion. Ten years later, after the war and spending lavishly on military resources, the Iraqi government was $80 billion in debt and needed $230 billion to rebuild Iraq’s economic infrastructure. His $13 billion in oil revenues barely paid the military budget.[1]

Where at the start of 1990 oil was $20.50 per barrel, the two countries of United Arab Emirate (UAE) and Kuwait contributed to 75% of oil over-production (a 24 million barrel per day production versus the 22 million barrel bench mark), as established by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). This excess drove the price down to $18.00 within three months, costing Iraq $2.5 billion in ‘lost’ revenues.[2]

After pleas and overt threats failed before the OPEC ministers, direct threats were targeted against Kuwait. On July 15, 1990, the Iraqi army was mobilized to the Kuwaiti border. At 01:00 on August 2 the attack was begun, supported by 140,000 troops and 1,800 tanks.[3]

The plan was to immediately seize the Emir’s seaside residence, the Dasman Palace, and the main royal palace in Kuwait City; and thereby capture the al-Sabah royal family. Thus, Saddam would have eliminated them as “traitors or agents of ‘world imperialism,’”[4] and forced Kuwaiti subservience by puppet government. He could have withdrawn his troops within months if not weeks.[5]

Unfortunately for Saddam, the Emir had fled to fight for his throne, and what could have been an open and closed chapter in Middle Eastern history, “turned into a feud between Iraq and almost the entire international community.”[6] Initially, the Arab nations requested that the western powers leave this aggression to the Arabs. Accordingly, within a few days of the attack, the Arab League issued a statement of condemnation with little effect.[7]

Within hours of the invasion the United Nations began working on a resolution to demand immediate withdrawal, and unified international pressures were mounted against the Iraqi regime, with even the most reticent governments falling in line. The United Nations “Desert Shield” was deployed on August 8 with unprecedented international concurrence.

This new era of international cooperation yielded a coalition of 22 countries, with 695,000 troops, 1,695 combat aircraft, and 174 warships[8] heading toward a January 17 early morning commencement of “Desert Storm” air offensives.

On Feb. 24, at 04:00, G-Day (ground offensive day) began. One hundred hours later the Iraqi forces were decimated, and President Bush declared a cessation of hostilities. Of the more than 290,00 Iraqi troops, 100,000 deserted, 65,000 became prisoners of war, and an estimated 3,000 were killed in action.[9] Of U.S. forces, there were 108 non-hostile Desert Shield deaths from August to January, and 150 Desert Storm deaths for the 100 hour period.[10] A total of 3,000 Iraqi T-55, T-62, and T-72 tanks were destroyed or captured.[11] Of the 1,956 M1A1 U.S. tanks, four were damaged beyond repair and another four had repairable damage. The effectiveness of the U.S. coalition forces is best summed up in the following excerpt from the book: “CNN: War in the Gulf.”

“One M1A1 tank took two direct hits in the turret from a T-72. The Abrams crew was shaken, but their tank was still able to fight. The tank commander slewed his turret around, the gunner lased and fired, and they killed the T-72 that had hit them.”[12]


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[1] IBID, p. 39
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[2] IBID, pp. 41, 46
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[3] IBID, p. 67
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[4] IBID, p. 68
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[5] IBID, p. 68
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[6] IBID, pp. 68-69
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[7] IBID, p. 71
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[8] Allen, Berry, and Polmar, p. 97
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[9] IBID, pp. 213, 220, 221
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[10] IBID, pp. 216, 220
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[11] IBID, pp. 209, 213
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[12] IBID, pp. 212
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To All,
Please allow that the last five verses of this chapter are yet future, and parallel Ezekiel Chapters 38 & 39. As such please allow the presentation of verses 40-43, -- Part I of III:

Gog & Magog, Persia, Libya, and Ethiopia

DANIEL 11:40 “‘At the time of the end the king of the south shall attack him; but the king of the north shall rush upon him* like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through. 41 He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites. 42 He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians, shall follow in his train. ​

* Heb. thrust at​

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EZEKIEL 38:10 “‘Thus says the LORD GOD: On that day thought will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, “I will go up against the land of unwalled villages; I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely,. all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates”; 12 to seize spoil and carry off plunder; to assail the waste places which are now inhabited, and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, who dwell at the center of the earth. 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all its villages will say to you, “Have you come to seize spoil? Have you assembled your hosts to carry off plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to seize great spoil?” 14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say to Gog, Thus says the LORD GOD: On that day when my people Israel are dwelling securely, you will bestir yourself* 15 and come from your place out of the uttermost parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great host, a mighty army; 16 you will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.’”​

* Gk: Heb Will you not know?


Ezekiel 38 sets the stage for one of history’s more significant conflagrations. Gog is depicted as assembling its forces, being poised to “seize spoil and carry off plunder,” and Sheba, Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish confront Gog. But according to the eleventh chapter of Daniel, the king of the south goes beyond a verbal challenge, and thrusts at someone described as “him.” This “him” could either be in reference to the “king of the north,” who subsequently counter attacks, or this “him” could refers to another government, such as Iran, which might effect some action against in an unwalled country, (i.e., having no credible military presence), like Iraq.



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To All,
Please allow that the last five verses of this chapter are yet future, and parallel Ezekiel Chapters 38 & 39. As such please allow the presentation of verses 40-43, -- Part II of II:

Gog & Magog, Persia, Libya, and Ethiopia

DANIEL 11:40 “‘At the time of the end the king of the south shall attack him; but the king of the north shall rush upon him* like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through. 41 He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites. 42 He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians, shall follow in his train. ​

* Heb. thrust at​

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EZEKIEL 38:10 “‘Thus says the LORD GOD: On that day thought will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, “I will go up against the land of unwalled villages; I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely,. all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates”; 12 to seize spoil and carry off plunder; to assail the waste places which are now inhabited, and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, who dwell at the center of the earth. 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all its villages will say to you, “Have you come to seize spoil? Have you assembled your hosts to carry off plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to seize great spoil?” 14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say to Gog, Thus says the LORD GOD: On that day when my people Israel are dwelling securely, you will bestir yourself* 15 and come from your place out of the uttermost parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great host, a mighty army; 16 you will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.’”​

* Gk: Heb Will you not know?


Once again, certain alliances present themselves. Clearly, the Soviet Union, Iran, and Libya have tacit interests. But Ethiopia, cited in Daniel 11:43, should be presented in its historical context. During Daniel’s time that entire expanse immediately southeast of Egypt along the Red Sea was known as Ethiopia. Today, 2/3rds of that region is occupied by modern day Sudan, and the1/3rd further southeast is today’s Ethiopia. Thus, although Daniel called that region “Ethiopia,” it’s this author’s expectation that he was referring to modern day Sudan.
Secondly, Turkey has been a member of NATO since the 1950’s, but has sometimes been criticized for failing to meet all of NATO’s expectations, being too cautious about not provoking its nearest and most ominous neighbor. This self preservation characteristic may either prove to manifest itself in allowing Soviet forces to pass through unimpeded, or there may be a political, religious, or social induced realignment of alliance.
And lastly, further evidence of these pending alliances can be discerned by news reports of nuclear weapon sales. A July 1992, Albuquerque Journal news article claimed that Iran purchased 3 nuclear weapons for $500 million (either each or for all three, -- it was unclear), and an October 1992 article claimed that representatives of the Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan and Iran’s defense minister, Akbar Torkan, finalized the July sale of 4 nuclear warheads.[1] Subsequent to these reports, the Jerusalem Post reported that Iran had obtained an initial quantity of Soviet nuclear weapons prior to the already cited 1992 purchase, which were reportedly stored near Tehran, pending maintenance by Russian experts.[2]
*Please note that although current world events would intimate that Iraq would be the most likely candidate for a nation which would allow the massing of Soviet military forces, Iraq is not specifically identified by these prophetic passages, and this citation could apply to another country.



[1] Nick Ludington, “Iran Buys 4 N-Warheads, Rebels Say,” A.P. - Washington, Albuquerque Journal, Oct. 13, 1992, p. A1

[2] “Paper Reports Iran Has Nukes,” Washington, Albuquerque Journal, April 10, 1998, p. A3





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To All,
Please allow that verse 44 of this chapter is yet future, and parallels Ezekiel Chapters 38 & 39. As such please allow the continued presentation:


China’s Military Might - Soviet Mortal Wound

DANIEL 11:44 “But tidings from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go forth with great fury to exterminate and utterly destroy many.’”​

EZEKIEL 38:18 “‘But on that day, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, says the Lord God, my wrath will be aroused.’”​

REVELATION 13:3 “One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder.”​

During the concerted attack against the middle east by the Soviets and their allies, this king of the north is alarmed by tiding from the east -- Red China. As indicated, the Soviets will go forth to utterly destroy those behind this threat, but the prophecies of Ezekiel, starting at 38:17, describe a terrible price to be paid.

Please recall the Revelation 13 beast, having feet of the bear, body of the leopard, and head of the lion, and whose seven heads represent the world’s seven empires:

1.) Gold, Babylonian/Chaldean
2.) Silver, Medo/Persian
3.) Bronze, Grecian/Hellenistic
4.) Iron, Roman
-- Clay, "divided"
-- 5.) United Kingdom
-- 6.) Soviet Union
-- 7.) Red China

-- 8.) The Anti-Christ is the eighth that arises out of the seven by the unity of the three end-time governments -- the Lion -U.K./U.S.; the Bear - Soviet Union; and the Leopard - Red China. This entity is describe as "was and is not", for it has NO geography, NO populous, NO army, etc.

One of the seven heads of the beast is ‘mortally wounded’, that being the sixth head, the Soviet Union during this event. Then the U.N./Anti-Christ 10 nation alliance will ‘heal’ this militarily defeated nation, and allow the Soviet peoples to continue to be governed by their Soviet leadership.

As such, speculation would suggest that Mikhail Gorbachev would be a most likely candidate to emerge into the leadership of this ‘revived’ nation. Speaking at the Fulton, Missouri, college campus where Winston Churchill delivered his famous 1946 “Iron Curtain” speech defining the essence of the Cold War, former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev called for the creation of a new “‘global government...to eliminate force and prevent conflicts from developing into a worldwide conflagration (by) collective action by the world community.’”[1]



[1] Eric Harrison, “Gorabchev Advocates Strong U.N.,” L.A. Times, Albuquerque Journal, May 7, 1992, p. A9



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To All,
Please allow the continued presentation:


China's "east", and Russia's "north"

DANIEL 11:44 “But tidings from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go forth with great fury to exterminate and utterly destroy many.’”​

Certainly where Scripture is often cryptic, history often clarifies. As such we should anticipate that where the Daniel 7 Lion/Eagle, (U.K./U.S) "king of the south" will start this conflict, either directly or indirectly, we know that the Bear (Russia) has already dropped the three-ribs to free it's teeth in preparation to "arise and devour much flesh". And where the Leopard (China) will take it's pre-eminence in this future unfolding of superpower roles, we should anticipate that Russia contemplates that potential threat.

So as the events unfold, we can anticipate that the greater Russian army will advance, leaving too few armies behind to defend the primary threat from the "east" (China) which Kissinger and Nixon both perceived, Nixon but didn't live long enough to see. -- Please note that in any army, there is an approximate 10:1 ratio of logistical support for every man under arms. Thus one should anticipate the prescribed total force of 200M, (which is ~twice the total allied forces in WWII), but actual battlefied strength of 20M men.

And where there's the obvious threat from the "east", there's a second threat from the "north" which is counter intuitive, because how can a Russian army threaten Russia? But I would propose that it's not an army of soldiers threatening the peace and stability of the nation, but rather an army of protesters. So where the United States saw their generation of Vietnam War protesters, so too Russia shall have theirs, -- but apparently to a much greater degree.

Thus one should not only anticipate the attack on Israel, but then the wheeling of what remains of this army for a "rear guard" action. And one should also anticipate that having devoured all it can, it shall be devoured and shall be mortally wounded.




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[veteran]

Lot of that does not concede the fact that Communist China and Communist Russia are allies under the same united goal of global government under Socialism. Ex 1960's KGB Colonel Anatoliy Golitsyn in his 1980's work New Lies For Old mentioned a "scissors" strategy which Soviet Russia and Red China have used as disinformation upon the West. He said sometimes Russia and China would feign strained relations so as to make it appear to the West that they were separate entities, when all along it was a disguise. In the final 3rd phase of the Soviet long-range strategy, he said Communists in Russia and China plan to close the "scissors" together upon the West. That suggests both Russia and Red China are acting as one entity.

 

[BibleScribe]

Lot of that does not concede the fact that Communist China and Communist Russia are allies under the same united goal of global government under Socialism. ...

Hi Veteran,

Actually, the Soviets and the Chinese are NOT allies.

In 1949 Mao wrote “Sitting on the fence will not do, ... nor is there a third road”[1] -- with the implication that China would effect a communistic form of government in order to provide a global political balance. The approach to act as world affairs “moderator” was formally outlined in 1954 when the “Five Principles of Peaceful Co-Existence” was issued as a statement of foreign policy. These included: mutual respect; non-aggression; noninterference; mutual benefit; and peaceful co-existence. As historically demonstrated, China becomes involved when it is perceived that global powers (especially the U.S.) are projecting themselves into the nations either in relatively close proximity to China, i.e.; Korea, Vietnam, Burma, Thailand, Rangoon, Japan, and Taiwan, or when imperialistic projection is not countered (U.S.S.R. in Africa and Afghanistan).[2]

[1] George Moseley, China Since 1911, Harper and Row, NY, 1968, pp. 97-98​

[2] Franklin Houn, A Short History of Chinese Communism, Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1973, pp. 216‑217​

As presented, when Russia interjected itself into Africa and the U.S. declined to intercede, both China and Israel countered the Soviet aggression. And where the Israeli intelligence effected an attack against the Russians and made it look the the Chinese were responsible, they sat back and watched the Russians and Chinese respond and counter respond. It wasn't until the Soviets figured out that the Israeli's were responsible, that they kidnapped the Israeli Station Chief, video taped him being fed alive to some crocodiles, and sent the video tape to the Israeli Station. The deputy Israeli Station Chief grabbed a rocket launcher, drove to the Soviet Station, and launched a rocket into their Station. And after that, things calmed down.

So where Scripture clearly presents the Chinese marching against Russia, History agrees.


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Hi Veteran,

Actually, the Soviets and the Chinese are NOT allies.

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All nations who are based on sin and not Christ are allies even if they kill each other. Gods point of view is the only one that will endure.

 

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To All,
Please allow the final piece of this presentation, Part I of II:


The Anti-Christ

DANIEL 11:45 “‘And he shall pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him.’”​

Where so many are confused regarding the ~mystery Babylon~, it's an embarrassment that the depiction is so obvious. It was the Babylonian empire which established the Metropolis model which ALL subsequent empires have adhered to:

This Babylonian Empire was “the first true metropolis in western history, a business as well as an administrative center,”[1] -- the prototype of governments as we see them to this day. The Babylonians controlled trade and commerce across western Asia, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf, building highways, legislating business, and beautifying the capital.[2]

[1] John B. Christopher and Robert Lee Wolf, A History of Civilization, Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1967, p. 35​

[2] Will Durant, Story of Civilization: Part II, Simon and Schuster, NY, 1954, pp. 223-224​

As such, we should perceive that after Babylon the next heir to the Metropolis preeminence might have been ~Alexandria,, then ~Athens, ~Rome, ~Paris, ~London, and now New York City. For where the church is ignorant, the creators of "Superman" perceived and conveyed that significance by where Clark Kent lived and worked.




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To All,
Please allow the final piece of this presentation, Part II of II:


The Anti-Christ

DANIEL 11:45 “‘And he shall pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him.’”​

As presented in Part I of II, we should perceive the "mystery Babylon" as being the Metropolis model. And where the pinnacle of this conception has transcended not only history but also multiple cities, it now rests in New York City as evidenced by the former World Trade Center, but also as the location of the United Nations. But there is yet one more destination for both the Metropolis pinnacle, along with the one-world-government United Nations, and that is in the city of Jerusalem.

Today we see a divided city, but I would propose that this city will be unified. And where political tensions cannot allow either the Jews or the Palestinians to have full possession, it would seem ~logical~ that a different entity shall take possession. And that argument might be: "That all should have access, but none have possession." Thus this city will become an international city as the headquarters of the United Nations, at the center of the earth.


However, history is not yet complete, for when Jesus returns, HE shall destroy this "beast" and throw it into the flame:


Daniel 7:11
[sup]11[/sup] “I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame.



... and the three superpowers will regain a semblance of their former existence, until Jesus fully converts them (and all nations) into HIS new governance model which shall reign for a thousand years.

Daniel 7:12
[sup]12[/sup] As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.




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[veteran]

Hi Veteran,

Actually, the Soviets and the Chinese are NOT allies.

In 1949 Mao wrote “Sitting on the fence will not do, ... nor is there a third road”[1] -- with the implication that China would effect a communistic form of government in order to provide a global political balance. The approach to act as world affairs “moderator” was formally outlined in 1954 when the “Five Principles of Peaceful Co-Existence” was issued as a statement of foreign policy. These included: mutual respect; non-aggression; noninterference; mutual benefit; and peaceful co-existence. As historically demonstrated, China becomes involved when it is perceived that global powers (especially the U.S.) are projecting themselves into the nations either in relatively close proximity to China, i.e.; Korea, Vietnam, Burma, Thailand, Rangoon, Japan, and Taiwan, or when imperialistic projection is not countered (U.S.S.R. in Africa and Afghanistan).[2]

[1] George Moseley, China Since 1911, Harper and Row, NY, 1968, pp. 97-98​

[2] Franklin Houn, A Short History of Chinese Communism, Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1973, pp. 216‑217​

As presented, when Russia interjected itself into Africa and the U.S. declined to intercede, both China and Israel countered the Soviet aggression. And where the Israeli intelligence effected an attack against the Russians and made it look the the Chinese were responsible, they sat back and watched the Russians and Chinese respond and counter respond. It wasn't until the Soviets figured out that the Israeli's were responsible, that they kidnapped the Israeli Station Chief, video taped him being fed alive to some crocodiles, and sent the video tape to the Israeli Station. The deputy Israeli Station Chief grabbed a rocket launcher, drove to the Soviet Station, and launched a rocket into their Station. And after that, things calmed down.

So where Scripture clearly presents the Chinese marching against Russia, History agrees.


Glad to see you following along!
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When the U.S. was building Soviet Russia's means through the 1940's Lend-lease program in order to help defeat Hitler's Germany, the U.S. caught evidence of the Soviets sending war materials by train to Mao's Communist army in China. When the U.S. asked the Soviets about it, of course they denied it.

Weapons sent to North Vietnam and the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War included weapons made in the USSR and its satellite states.

The Russian defector to the U.S. in the 1960's, Anatoliy Golitsyn, an ex-KGB colonel, stated the Soviets and Communist Chinese often use the tactic of appearing separate as part of the long-range disinformation strategy against the West (see New Lies For Old). Not only that, but he revealed that strategy of disinformation includes the strategy of aggression by one Communist arm (either Russia or Red China), while the other plays peace dog to keep western aid coming.

This is why the Chinese Communist government has publically stated several times in the past decade that it expects eventual war with the U.S. Per the Ezekiel 38 prophecy, Russia is being pointed to as leading the armies out of the northern quarters upon Israel. Communist Russia and Communist China are a pair of scissor blades (the actual strategy Golitsyn said was called the 'scissors strategy'). Golitsyn covered this strategy in detail in his book. Nor is he the only source to mention it.

The following is from the Israeli ATTAC REPORT website:
http://www.attacrepo...rt_na_china.htm

“Scissors Strategy”
The dialectic often appears under other names. A December 30, 1961 report by the House Committee on Un-American Activities, entitled “The New Role of National Legislative Bodies in the Communist Conspiracy,” contained two crucial chapters from a book smuggled out of Czechoslovakia. Written by an official of that country’s Communist Party, the book described the dialectical method used to seize power in Czechoslovakia. Communists infiltrated key positions in the Czechoslovak government, while simultaneously organizing street demonstrations against that government. Those two arms of the dialectic, by pretending to fight each other, generated enough confusion among the general public that all genuine opposition was neutralized. The book used the terms coined by V.I. Lenin, first dictator of the Soviet Union, referring to thesis and antithesis as “pressure from above” and “pressure from below.”

The Soviet KGB uses its own set of code words to refer to the dialectical strategy. According to former KGB staff officer Anatoliy Golitsyn, the official term for the dialectic is the “scissors strategy,” in which the blades represent the two falsely opposed sides that converge on the confused victims. Golitsyn, who is probably the most important Soviet ever to defect to the West, escaped in 1961. After more than two decades of trying to warn uninterested American leaders, he wrote the 1984 book New Lies for Old as a warning to the general public, exposing the role of the scissors strategy in global events.
Golitsyn revealed that the Communist bloc had adopted a coordinated long-term strategy beginning in the late 1950s, created in part by Golitsyn himself, the purpose being to convince the West that international Communism was disintegrating. Phony dissidents, factions, and power struggles within Communist parties, splits or wars between Communist nations, and temporary freedoms within each country have become dialectical tools of deception, allowing people in the West to take sides in these controlled struggles and thereby succumb to the strategy. Golitsyn argued that the dialectic has succeeded because imaginary factions or splits among Communist rulers are perceived as real by the West.


Sakharov the Charlatan
Andrei Sakharov, the recently deceased Soviet physicist widely known for speaking out against the Soviet regime, was one dissident identified by Golitsyn as probably working for the government as a conduit for disinformation. Sakharov openly advocated “convergence” between the United States and the Soviet Union, once the United States becomes more completely socialist. Golitsyn pointed out that Sakharov was allowed amazing access to the western news media, something never provided to genuine opponents of the regime.

Similarly, Golitsyn concluded that the Solidarity union in Poland was actually established and controlled by the secret police and Communist Party. It was “suppressed” in 1981, though not completely, so as to convince the West that Solidarity was truly an enemy of the regime. Martial law in Poland also helped provide a sharper contrast to the planned democratization of Poland,
Based on his high-level knowledge of the scissors strategy, Golitsyn concluded in 1984 that the “final phase” of the plan was about to begin. He correctly predicted the rise of a Soviet leader with a public image similar to that of Mikhail Gorbachev, the opening of the Berlin Wall, the Solidarity government in Poland, the democratization of such Eastern European countries as Czechoslovakia, restructuring in the Soviet Union, the reunification of Germany, and the end of the Warsaw Pact. Golitsyn also predicted the false democratization of third-world nations such as Cuba, the unification of all Europe as a socialist state aligned with the Soviet Union, the widening of the “split” between the Soviet Union and Red China, and a closer alliance between the United States and Red China. These last few steps will effectively divide the world into two main power blocs, the final step before the scissors are closed and a world government imposed. Only at that point will the pretense of democracy be abandoned and the overt police state be reimposed."

 

[BibleScribe]

Hi Veteran,

Although prophetic Scripture must have some future historical potential, this does not suggest that either that history is obvious, or that it cannot be altered. Take for example the many instances where logic would defy events, including having all three aircraft carriers at sea during the attack on Pearl Harbor, or the fortuitous ill weather on D-Day, etc., etc. And where the Shah if Iran was firmly in the camp of the West, now that nation is firmly allied with others.

So until we see whether these prophetic event unfold as described, I would suggest that we watch and wait. And having hindsight, we can discover whether Daniel 11:44 and Revelation 9:16 depict the same event, or different events. But I suspect we'll see this within a couple of dozen months.


BibleScribe

 

[veteran]

Hi Veteran,

Although prophetic Scripture must have some future historical potential, this does not suggest that either that history is obvious, or that it cannot be altered. Take for example the many instances where logic would defy events, including having all three aircraft carriers at sea during the attack on Pearl Harbor, or the fortuitous ill weather on D-Day, etc., etc. And where the Shah if Iran was firmly in the camp of the West, now that nation is firmly allied with others.

So until we see whether these prophetic event unfold as described, I would suggest that we watch and wait. And having hindsight, we can discover whether Daniel 11:44 and Revelation 9:16 depict the same event, or different events. But I suspect we'll see this within a couple of dozen months.

BibleScribe

For students of history of my generation, I don't see these workings as all that difficult to understand. The structural goal for the end of this world prior to Christ's return is a one world system. Understand what The LORD said will happen, and then watch world events that point to God's Word, not the other way around.

World conquest is what Communism is about, and has always been about, which is why it was early on called a grand conspiracy. Because of the long-range Soviet disinformation strategy Golitsyn described, many in later generations have been duped to think the goal of world conquest by Communism is dead, and thus they no longer are looking in the right direction of end time events.

 

[us2are1]

We already have a one world government. A sin filled world who is not gathering for Christ but is scattering for monetary gain.
Here is all of their lot.

Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.




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[veteran]

We already have a one world government. A sin filled world who is not gathering for Christ but is scattering for monetary gain.
Here is all of their lot.

Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
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There's more endtime prophecy in God's Word about that event which defines just WHICH nations He meant that upon, for the events of Ezekiel 38 through 39 reveal that God's fury is going to specifically be upon the nations that lay siege to His Israel. And the way I see it, that includes His people in the Christian West representing Israel in the West also.

 

[us2are1]

There's more endtime prophecy in God's Word about that event which defines just WHICH nations He meant that upon, for the events of Ezekiel 38 through 39 reveal that God's fury is going to specifically be upon the nations that lay siege to His Israel. And the way I see it, that includes His people in the Christian West representing Israel in the West also.

The scripture in Isaiah 34 is unique in that it is speaking of the entire earth every person and every nation and everything that comes forth from it. Every nation will be destroyed including the imposter Israel before the Israel of God is assembled and brought back by the resurrection from the dead.





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[BibleScribe]

...Understand what The LORD said will happen, and then watch world events that point to God's Word, not the other way around.
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Quite honestly, veteran, you make statements which you do not perform to . Specifically, consider whether this Book, this Chapter has any fulfillment. And where I would argue that it conforms to the History which it depicts, you are mute. Where I would argue that this Scripture is indeed shut up and sealed until the era approximate to 1948, the liars assign it to ~200 B. C.

So where is your righteous judgement for the TRUTH? Or are all doctrines false unless you think of them?


BibleScribe