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The CCP is not a normal law-abiding government







Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese meets China’s President Xi Jinping in a bilateral meeting during the 2022 G20 summit in Nusa Dua, Bali, Indonesia, Australia, on Nov. 15, 2022. (AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)



David Flint contributor
January 25, 2023Updated: January 26, 2023


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The controversy over Prince Harry wearing a Nazi uniform to a party was repeated recently when a 40-year-old prominent Australian politician, Dominic Perrottet, revealed that he had worn a Nazi uniform to his 21st birthday party.

A newspaper reader wondered if people would be so outraged if someone had worn a Mao uniform. A good point.

Since President Richard Nixon’s 1971 visit to Beijing, preceded by the Australian opposition leader Gough Whitlam, the overwhelming approach of Western leaders has been to treat the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as just another normal law-abiding government. They also often treat communist leaders, including the mass murderer Mao Zedong, with respect and, at times, even awe.

When Mao died in 1976, Australia’s Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser and opposition leader Gough Whitlam led the Australian House of Representatives in the condolence motion that no one, even for a moment, had ever thought appropriate for those other mass-murderers, Stalin and Hitler.

Indeed, when the head of the Irish government Taoiseach Éamon de Valera, called on the German ambassador in 1945 to express his condolences on Hitler’s suicide, this was greeted with widespread international commendation.

What was it about Mao? It was surely not that he murdered more than anyone else. Was it that big business and its political allies realised that by exploiting the downtrodden Chinese and slave labour and with a consequently rising domestic market, a fortune could be made?

Losing their manufacturing, handing over intellectual property or even having it stolen, or becoming dependent on the communists was, apparently, of no concern.

‘Law-Abiding’ Isn’t in Beijing’s Vocabulary



Relations between Australia and Beijing spiralled downwards in 2020 when the previous centre-right Liberal-National Morrison government dared call for an international investigation into the origin of COVID-19.

After all, the world had suffered drastic consequences following the release of what seems to be an experimental virus produced in a Wuhan military laboratory assisted by funding from Dr. Anthony Fauci, such research being forbidden in the United States.




Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief medical advisor to U.S. President Joe Biden, during a hearing in Washington on May 17, 2022. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Added to this was the shocking failure of Beijing to warn airlines, other countries and the World Health Organization of the travel of large numbers across the world at the conclusion of the 2020 Lunar New Year.

An inquiry into this is still needed and should obviously extend to assessing liability for the massive damages suffered.

Each state should then be able to recoup some decent contribution towards those damages from CCP-controlled assets in its jurisdiction.

As to questions of proof, when dealing with recalcitrant law-breaking communists, we can obtain some valuable assistance from the 1947 World Court Corfu Channel Case between the UK and Albania.

Beijing already has a poor record in observing international law, as demonstrated by the 2016 South China Sea Case before the Hague Tribunal, which had ruled that Communist China could not use rocky outcrops—some exposed only at low tide—as the basis for territorial claims against the Philippines.

Rather than insisting on Beijing observing this judgement, President Barack Obama unwisely compromised by accepting Xi’s promise not to militarise the South China Sea.

In imposing sanctions on Australia, Beijing remains in massive breach of international trade law. But the fact that we are dealing with law-breakers does not mean that an international inquiry of interested powers should not go ahead. It would be wrong to assume that damages could not be recovered.

For this purpose, Australia should encourage other countries, especially our close allies, to legislate to allow damages established under a specified inquiry to be available to be recouped from assets under the control of the CCP.

Good legal drafting could ensure that separate proof of the accessibility of assets in each case should not be necessary and that, in the interim, assets are frozen.

Of course, the communists will retaliate, but they are already doing this for no more than Australia’s suggesting an international inquiry.




Basket of live western rock lobsters in Fremantle in Western Australia. (Trevor Collens/Getty Images)

And why should the people of countries such as Australia, who have suffered so terribly from the unilateral actions of the communists in developing a dangerous virus, in its escape and in not warning of its dangers, especially in the early period?

How Did the West Become so Dependent?



Now, the current prime minister, Anthony Albanese, appears to want to curry favour with the communists.

First, he, initially at least, declined to follow our closest allies in imposing testing on those travelling from China where the authorities could not be relied on to be truthful as to the state of the virus.

Then, boasting that Australia and China are “talking again,” he said: “We are undoing so much of the damage done by the LNP government.”

So, is he saying that the opposition is to blame for COVID and the trade boycott or just for the trade boycott? Is he saying the former government should not have asked for an independent inquiry?

At the last G20 meeting, the prime minister was allowed to shake Xi’s hand while the illicit trade sanctions stayed in place.

Then, he seemed elated when the foreign minister, Penny Wong, was permitted to go to Beijing to pay her respects to one of the regime’s apparatchiks again while the illicit trade sanctions stayed in place.




Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong (L) meets with Australian Ambassador to China Graham Fletcher at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing, China, on Dec. 21, 2022. (AAP Image/Lukas Coch)

Now, he seems to be waiting for a summons from Beijing when the communists will possibly abandon some of their illegal sanctions, but only because they have proven counter-productive.

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When it comes to Beijing, a far too common weakness among Western ruling elites is that they seem to have learnt nothing from Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. At least Chamberlain realised his error.

The Western ruling classes are still trying to treat the brutal Beijing dictatorship as a normal government, and they are still letting their countries become dependent on the dictatorship, just as the German ruling class became dependent on Russia for energy.

So, how could so many in the West be so gullible as to make us so dependent on the communists?

According to some reports, Henry Kissinger actually realised at the time of the 1971 visit that the communists would turn on the U.S. once they had the economic and military capacity to do so.

Gough Whitlam was even more accommodating to the monster, abandoning Taiwan well before the Americans did, at least diplomatically, in 1979.

President Bill Clinton’s unconditional admission of Beijing to the World Trade Organization in 2000 led to the transfer of manufacturing jobs away from the U.S., the forced transfer and theft of IP, and continuing and serious breaches of trade law.

We saw recently how tenuous the hold of the dictatorship is when the Chinese people revolted against the Maoist lockdown policy that was copied, unwisely, by Western politicians.

At some stage, probably sooner than later, communist China will follow the Soviet Union into oblivion, and the Chinese people will be liberated as they deserve.

True leadership emerges occasionally in the West where those of the calibre of Churchill, Reagan, and Thatcher not only make the West great. They do not allow dictators to ride roughshod over the West nor the West to become dependent on them.
David Flint is an emeritus professor of law, known for his leadership of Australians for Constitutional Monarchy and for his tenure as head of the Australian Broadcasting Authority. He is also a former chairman of the Australian Press Council and the World Association of Press Councils.
 

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When it comes to Beijing, a far too common weakness among Western ruling elites is that they seem to have learnt nothing from Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. At least Chamberlain realised his error.

The Western ruling classes are still trying to treat the brutal Beijing dictatorship as a normal government, and they are still letting their countries become dependent on the dictatorship, just as the German ruling class became dependent on Russia for energy.

So, how could so many in the West be so gullible as to make us so dependent on the communists?

According to some reports, Henry Kissinger actually realised at the time of the 1971 visit that the communists would turn on the U.S. once they had the economic and military capacity to do so.

Gough Whitlam was even more accommodating to the monster, abandoning Taiwan well before the Americans did, at least diplomatically, in 1979.

President Bill Clinton’s unconditional admission of Beijing to the World Trade Organization in 2000 led to the transfer of manufacturing jobs away from the U.S., the forced transfer and theft of IP, and continuing and serious breaches of trade law.

We saw recently how tenuous the hold of the dictatorship is when the Chinese people revolted against the Maoist lockdown policy that was copied, unwisely, by Western politicians.

At some stage, probably sooner than later, communist China will follow the Soviet Union into oblivion, and the Chinese people will be liberated as they deserve.

True leadership emerges occasionally in the West where those of the calibre of Churchill, Reagan, and Thatcher not only make the West great. They do not allow dictators to ride roughshod over the West nor the West to become dependent on them.
David Flint is an emeritus professor of law, known for his leadership of Australians for Constitutional Monarchy and for his tenure as head of the Australian Broadcasting Authority. He is also a former chairman of the Australian Press Council and the World Association of Press Councils.

China to me is for the most part a thousand times worse than even Russia, and far more dangerous. It is sad that some left-wing people still try to defend their actions, even after all those millions of people it has imprisoned, persecuted and outright murdered. Not to mention its genocide of 9-12 million babies annually. :(
 

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The CCP is not a normal law-abiding government







Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese meets China’s President Xi Jinping in a bilateral meeting during the 2022 G20 summit in Nusa Dua, Bali, Indonesia, Australia, on Nov. 15, 2022. (AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)


David Flint contributor
January 25, 2023Updated: January 26, 2023


Commentary Audio PDF



The controversy over Prince Harry wearing a Nazi uniform to a party was repeated recently when a 40-year-old prominent Australian politician, Dominic Perrottet, revealed that he had worn a Nazi uniform to his 21st birthday party.

A newspaper reader wondered if people would be so outraged if someone had worn a Mao uniform. A good point.

Since President Richard Nixon’s 1971 visit to Beijing, preceded by the Australian opposition leader Gough Whitlam, the overwhelming approach of Western leaders has been to treat the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as just another normal law-abiding government. They also often treat communist leaders, including the mass murderer Mao Zedong, with respect and, at times, even awe.

When Mao died in 1976, Australia’s Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser and opposition leader Gough Whitlam led the Australian House of Representatives in the condolence motion that no one, even for a moment, had ever thought appropriate for those other mass-murderers, Stalin and Hitler.

Indeed, when the head of the Irish government Taoiseach Éamon de Valera, called on the German ambassador in 1945 to express his condolences on Hitler’s suicide, this was greeted with widespread international commendation.

What was it about Mao? It was surely not that he murdered more than anyone else. Was it that big business and its political allies realised that by exploiting the downtrodden Chinese and slave labour and with a consequently rising domestic market, a fortune could be made?

Losing their manufacturing, handing over intellectual property or even having it stolen, or becoming dependent on the communists was, apparently, of no concern.

‘Law-Abiding’ Isn’t in Beijing’s Vocabulary


Relations between Australia and Beijing spiralled downwards in 2020 when the previous centre-right Liberal-National Morrison government dared call for an international investigation into the origin of COVID-19.

After all, the world had suffered drastic consequences following the release of what seems to be an experimental virus produced in a Wuhan military laboratory assisted by funding from Dr. Anthony Fauci, such research being forbidden in the United States.




Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief medical advisor to U.S. President Joe Biden, during a hearing in Washington on May 17, 2022. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Added to this was the shocking failure of Beijing to warn airlines, other countries and the World Health Organization of the travel of large numbers across the world at the conclusion of the 2020 Lunar New Year.

An inquiry into this is still needed and should obviously extend to assessing liability for the massive damages suffered.

Each state should then be able to recoup some decent contribution towards those damages from CCP-controlled assets in its jurisdiction.

As to questions of proof, when dealing with recalcitrant law-breaking communists, we can obtain some valuable assistance from the 1947 World Court Corfu Channel Case between the UK and Albania.

Beijing already has a poor record in observing international law, as demonstrated by the 2016 South China Sea Case before the Hague Tribunal, which had ruled that Communist China could not use rocky outcrops—some exposed only at low tide—as the basis for territorial claims against the Philippines.

Rather than insisting on Beijing observing this judgement, President Barack Obama unwisely compromised by accepting Xi’s promise not to militarise the South China Sea.

In imposing sanctions on Australia, Beijing remains in massive breach of international trade law. But the fact that we are dealing with law-breakers does not mean that an international inquiry of interested powers should not go ahead. It would be wrong to assume that damages could not be recovered.

For this purpose, Australia should encourage other countries, especially our close allies, to legislate to allow damages established under a specified inquiry to be available to be recouped from assets under the control of the CCP.

Good legal drafting could ensure that separate proof of the accessibility of assets in each case should not be necessary and that, in the interim, assets are frozen.

Of course, the communists will retaliate, but they are already doing this for no more than Australia’s suggesting an international inquiry.




Basket of live western rock lobsters in Fremantle in Western Australia. (Trevor Collens/Getty Images)

And why should the people of countries such as Australia, who have suffered so terribly from the unilateral actions of the communists in developing a dangerous virus, in its escape and in not warning of its dangers, especially in the early period?

How Did the West Become so Dependent?


Now, the current prime minister, Anthony Albanese, appears to want to curry favour with the communists.

First, he, initially at least, declined to follow our closest allies in imposing testing on those travelling from China where the authorities could not be relied on to be truthful as to the state of the virus.

Then, boasting that Australia and China are “talking again,” he said: “We are undoing so much of the damage done by the LNP government.”

So, is he saying that the opposition is to blame for COVID and the trade boycott or just for the trade boycott? Is he saying the former government should not have asked for an independent inquiry?

At the last G20 meeting, the prime minister was allowed to shake Xi’s hand while the illicit trade sanctions stayed in place.

Then, he seemed elated when the foreign minister, Penny Wong, was permitted to go to Beijing to pay her respects to one of the regime’s apparatchiks again while the illicit trade sanctions stayed in place.




Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong (L) meets with Australian Ambassador to China Graham Fletcher at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing, China, on Dec. 21, 2022. (AAP Image/Lukas Coch)

Now, he seems to be waiting for a summons from Beijing when the communists will possibly abandon some of their illegal sanctions, but only because they have proven counter-productive.

[Continues in Part 2/or see PDF]

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Nearly everything we buy nowadays has got "Made in China" stamped on it, are we nutty or what?
Why should we boost China's economy instead of buying stuff made in our own countries?
It might even be said that we're sinning by buying from godless China.
 

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Is the West Too Gullible When It Comes to China


The CCP is not a normal law-abiding government







Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese meets China’s President Xi Jinping in a bilateral meeting during the 2022 G20 summit in Nusa Dua, Bali, Indonesia, Australia, on Nov. 15, 2022. (AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)


David Flint contributor
January 25, 2023Updated: January 26, 2023


Commentary Audio PDF



The controversy over Prince Harry wearing a Nazi uniform to a party was repeated recently when a 40-year-old prominent Australian politician, Dominic Perrottet, revealed that he had worn a Nazi uniform to his 21st birthday party.

A newspaper reader wondered if people would be so outraged if someone had worn a Mao uniform. A good point.

Since President Richard Nixon’s 1971 visit to Beijing, preceded by the Australian opposition leader Gough Whitlam, the overwhelming approach of Western leaders has been to treat the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as just another normal law-abiding government. They also often treat communist leaders, including the mass murderer Mao Zedong, with respect and, at times, even awe.

When Mao died in 1976, Australia’s Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser and opposition leader Gough Whitlam led the Australian House of Representatives in the condolence motion that no one, even for a moment, had ever thought appropriate for those other mass-murderers, Stalin and Hitler.

Indeed, when the head of the Irish government Taoiseach Éamon de Valera, called on the German ambassador in 1945 to express his condolences on Hitler’s suicide, this was greeted with widespread international commendation.

What was it about Mao? It was surely not that he murdered more than anyone else. Was it that big business and its political allies realised that by exploiting the downtrodden Chinese and slave labour and with a consequently rising domestic market, a fortune could be made?

Losing their manufacturing, handing over intellectual property or even having it stolen, or becoming dependent on the communists was, apparently, of no concern.

‘Law-Abiding’ Isn’t in Beijing’s Vocabulary


Relations between Australia and Beijing spiralled downwards in 2020 when the previous centre-right Liberal-National Morrison government dared call for an international investigation into the origin of COVID-19.

After all, the world had suffered drastic consequences following the release of what seems to be an experimental virus produced in a Wuhan military laboratory assisted by funding from Dr. Anthony Fauci, such research being forbidden in the United States.




Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief medical advisor to U.S. President Joe Biden, during a hearing in Washington on May 17, 2022. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Added to this was the shocking failure of Beijing to warn airlines, other countries and the World Health Organization of the travel of large numbers across the world at the conclusion of the 2020 Lunar New Year.

An inquiry into this is still needed and should obviously extend to assessing liability for the massive damages suffered.

Each state should then be able to recoup some decent contribution towards those damages from CCP-controlled assets in its jurisdiction.

As to questions of proof, when dealing with recalcitrant law-breaking communists, we can obtain some valuable assistance from the 1947 World Court Corfu Channel Case between the UK and Albania.

Beijing already has a poor record in observing international law, as demonstrated by the 2016 South China Sea Case before the Hague Tribunal, which had ruled that Communist China could not use rocky outcrops—some exposed only at low tide—as the basis for territorial claims against the Philippines.

Rather than insisting on Beijing observing this judgement, President Barack Obama unwisely compromised by accepting Xi’s promise not to militarise the South China Sea.

In imposing sanctions on Australia, Beijing remains in massive breach of international trade law. But the fact that we are dealing with law-breakers does not mean that an international inquiry of interested powers should not go ahead. It would be wrong to assume that damages could not be recovered.

For this purpose, Australia should encourage other countries, especially our close allies, to legislate to allow damages established under a specified inquiry to be available to be recouped from assets under the control of the CCP.

Good legal drafting could ensure that separate proof of the accessibility of assets in each case should not be necessary and that, in the interim, assets are frozen.

Of course, the communists will retaliate, but they are already doing this for no more than Australia’s suggesting an international inquiry.




Basket of live western rock lobsters in Fremantle in Western Australia. (Trevor Collens/Getty Images)

And why should the people of countries such as Australia, who have suffered so terribly from the unilateral actions of the communists in developing a dangerous virus, in its escape and in not warning of its dangers, especially in the early period?

How Did the West Become so Dependent?

The PM Albanese and Penny Wong are both Communist as they can come and I am sure that P Wong could become the PM because Albanese is a little boy dip stick fool, not to mention never had a real Job in his life.

1976 when Mao died our PM M Fraser was crying for Mao o_O so upset that his idol was gone ? and he is a right wing snob of the highest calibre a rich toff and a good for nothing PM, I would not wonder why such people who are toffs love Communist so much.
I think it the nature of dominating over the people that they aspire to love ? but that's the way it goes with the type of toff right wing are lovers of Communism in a way ?
Because It's they who prop them up, because they love to exploit the masses as well !

Only one Premier had the guts to say the truth about Mao being a mass murderer and that he was not going to China to pay his respects to such a deranged monster.

I would not be surprised at all if COVID truly came from Ukraine's Labs, to be let loose in China.
China is more open than Ukraine was to such dealings regarding the Laws that the World is bound under such regulations.
Ukraine was a Law unto it's self by World standards, Russia could not get away with such that Ukraine Labs and etc could get away with doing and that was well known. so many operations on humans could be conducted in Ukraine, but totally illegal anywhere in the world.
Ukraine was the place to go for experimental operations and anything way illegal that you could not perform anywhere else or you would go directly to Jail even in Russia and China. The World as agreements standards laid down standards but not with Ukraine as it was a likened to a no mans land regarding such issues.

How did the West become so dependant ? well cheap labour in China, exploitation of the people regardless is the Name of the game and people willing to partake of such. So they were using the China people and China were using us for an agenda. But China went into a war with the west in keeping it's currency much lower than the west wanted them to.
Many seen such a good thing for the people of China and it was but China leadership went way to far becoming a monster.
 

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The real problem for people in the west isn't China's corrupt and tyrannical leaders, it's our own corrupt and tyrannical leaders.
Both are a problem...but at least China's leaders proudly acknowledge themselves as atheist. They're not pretending to be something they're not at least.

America and the West's biggest problem is that we have leaders (Biden, Pelosi, etc.) who say they are "Christian", but have failed to support almost a single Christian or moral policy whilst in office. :(

One cannot oppose an immoral and godless atheist state while one's government lacks any true higher moral or spiritual foundation for doing so.
 

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Both are a problem...but at least China's leaders proudly acknowledge themselves as atheist. They're not pretending to be something they're not at least.

America and the West's biggest problem is that we have leaders (Biden, Pelosi, etc.) who say they are "Christian", but have failed to support almost a single Christian or moral policy whilst in office. :(

One cannot oppose an immoral and godless atheist state while one's government lacks any true higher moral or spiritual foundation for doing so.
The problem is that no matter what government you live in, you're living under Babylonian captivity. USA is Babylon, Russia is Babylon, China is Babylon. There is a kingdom, not recognized by the UN, which is the Kingdom of Israel, which has no borders but it has a king in Christ. You're not a citizen of Babylon, you are a conquered subject, but you are a citizen of Israel.
 
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Bill Clinton gave away the gyroscope programming so that two campaign contributors could get satellites launched from Chinese Launch sites. Larol and Hughes CEO's plus Clinton should be sharing prison cells .....those programs gave the Chnese the ability to target ten cities from one ballestic missile. Ten warheads, ten cities, one missile ...Now North Korea has the capability as well. Clinton was told not to give that away.

We had a engineering division that wanted to open a new market in China. Our Generator Protection Relays were world respected. I cautioned everyone to not trust the Chinese. My caution was ignored. Five relays were sent as marketing tools for China. Suddenly our relays staring appearing everywhere, a competitior, ABB sent me a message ..."Notice a problem with this faceplate?" China had copied the relay but misspelled our logo on the faceplate. In our meeting I told a story that I heard in a US Naval History Class at Auburn University.

Before World War 2, Japan was developing their navy. They choose to use the ships from the two best navies in the world. Britain and the US. They lobbied the countries for ship building plans. At first Japan bought the plans, then things changed ......they would return plans with a letter "Not accepted". Spies in Yokohama watched as the returned plans ships were built and added to the expanding fleet .....The US and Britain developed a plan .....they introduced a new Destroyer design .....Japan took the bait, then returned the plans ......Not accepted. The US and Britain waited ....The keel was laid, the ship built, the hull and deck slid off the dry dock, into the harbor, truned upside down and sank. The US and Britain sent a formal note to Japan ......"We are no longer providing ship plans to Japan. The last design was anti buoyant.......on purpose" ....

In our meeting I suggested "This is simple. We send a program to update the programming of the relays. We place an intentional bug in the program to disable the relay." Our Rep called in panic, relays were crashing all over China. Generators were closing down" Our message was quite simple ....."Steal and copy our technology, we will shut you down." Our relays are not used in China power plants any longer .....
 

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China to me is for the most part a thousand times worse than even Russia, and far more dangerous.
No one in the West (including Australia and New Zealand) has ever said that China is the real enemy, and must be treated as an enemy at all times. That would take a lot of courage.

The blind, deaf, and stupid (and probably bought off) Western politicians and presidents all encouraged China to take control of their countries. So this Chinese balloon incident is how China has now shown the world that it is actually in control of the USA. It is a wonder that they did not disperse another really lethal virus as that balloon traveled over America. No one could have stopped that, and millions could have died.

So now the real question remains: Why has Joe Biden not been impeached already when he could have been impeached from day one, or simply removed from office without any further discussion? And the only rational answer is that all the politicians and the armed forces have consented to the total destruction of America. So now everything is SMOKE AND MIRRORS, and shooting down unidentified objects is another way to distract people from the real thorny issues.

The next presidential election will again be a total sham, since absolutely no one is focused on totally shutting down election fraud in every state. There should have been a national commission on election fraud with powers to have the fraudsters immediately arrested and locked up, every bogus voter removed from every voter roll, every voting machine incinerated, every drop box trashed and crushed, before the next election. This has not happened and will not happen.
 

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No one in the West (including Australia and New Zealand) has ever said that China is the real enemy, and must be treated as an enemy at all times. That would take a lot of courage.

The blind, deaf, and stupid (and probably bought off) Western politicians and presidents all encouraged China to take control of their countries. So this Chinese balloon incident is how China has now shown the world that it is actually in control of the USA. It is a wonder that they did not disperse another really lethal virus as that balloon traveled over America. No one could have stopped that, and millions could have died.

So now the real question remains: Why has Joe Biden not been impeached already when he could have been impeached from day one, or simply removed from office without any further discussion? And the only rational answer is that all the politicians and the armed forces have consented to the total destruction of America. So now everything is SMOKE AND MIRRORS, and shooting down unidentified objects is another way to distract people from the real thorny issues.

The next presidential election will again be a total sham, since absolutely no one is focused on totally shutting down election fraud in every state. There should have been a national commission on election fraud with powers to have the fraudsters immediately arrested and locked up, every bogus voter removed from every voter roll, every voting machine incinerated, every drop box trashed and crushed, before the next election. This has not happened and will not happen.

Considering the fact that every balloon flying across Alaska has to fly into Canadian airspace .....the most silent of the incursions is CANADA. Either Eskimo or Moose reporting is not up to the standards of the day ......

Is Trudeau asleep or on vacation?