Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

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Ernest T. Bass

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Now: How come the totality of what you claim, IS NOT CORRECT OR TRUE?


First, Your argument of: <<a 'not-but elliptical' statement where emphasis is put upon one thing (preaching) over another (baptizing) but not to the total exclusion of baptizing>> is a manufactured attempt at escaping or rather defying the unity, oneness and completeness of the baptism which is <<of Christ>>, the baptism exactly wherein and wherewith <<emphasis is put upon one thing>>— upon the ONENESS of the <preaching> AND the <baptizing> to the total exclusion of duality or plurality, name it what you like, of ‘baptism’ and / plus / add ‘water’.

Rather, in fact, the <statement> which you aver is <<a 'not-but elliptical' statement>>, is NO <<‘elliptical' statement>>. It is a FULL statement of un-mediated momentary ‘baptism’ made by God the Holy Spirit the Baptist and undergone by a simultaneously discipled believer the baptised, OF: being “baptized-in-The-NAME” by an APOSTLE sent by CHRIST, whose baptism, as John the Baptist made sure, “IS NOT WITH WATER”.


An elliptical statement is not manufactured as you claim (again more claims that you do not substantiate). I gave other examples of elliptical not-but statements. Your whole post above is full of claims and nothing at all to back those claims up.
 

Ernest T. Bass

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Here again, <Ernest T. Bass, post: 667401, member: 6115> SPEAKS AND WRITES THE TRUTH!

Nowhere does your statement contain the word 'WATER'. Instead, one finds these words, <baptized in the name of Christ> <baptized in that someone's name> <baptized in the name of Christ> <not been baptized in the name of Christ therefore are not "of Christ> <necessity of baptism to be of Christ>


Paul's point in 1 Corinthians 1:12-13 is for one to be "of Christ" then two things must be true:
1) Christ must be crucified fr you
2) you must be baptized in the name of Christ.

Acts 10:47-48 "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

If Peter is not talking about water baptism, then why mention water at all? Peter is talking about water baptism that is COMMANDED and in the name of the Lord which is the same exact baptism of Acts 2:38, Matthew 28:9-20 the baptism of the great commission.