So you do not know who the men are named in Mat 13:55-56?
Initially I thought it was safe to assume you understood I was talking about familial relationships ...since that is the whole focus of the discussion on the meaning of adelphos. Discussing Jesus' followers is a strawman. We all know there is a "spiritual brother" application.
So again, identify one verse where Matthew uses adelphos for familial relationships other than biological brother.
The word adelphos/adelphoi occurs 38 times in Matthew's Gospel ... 17 times it means spiritual brother ... and 21 times it means biological brother ... there are no other uses of the word in the whole Gospel.
Matthew 13:55-56 proves unequivocally that Mary had sons & daughters after Jesus was born.
Is not this the carpenter's son?
is not his mother called Mary?
and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
And his sisters, are they not all with us?
You keep repeating the same claim, but you’re still avoiding the central point:
You’re assuming “familial relationship” = “biological sibling.”
That’s the very thing under dispute.
You can’t demand I prove Matthew uses
adelphos for “familial relationships other than biological brother”
when you’ve already decided that every non‑biological sibling use in Matthew is “spiritual only.” That’s circular — you’re excluding the counterexamples by definition.
The familial definition of the word adelphos is not specifically “biological sibling.”
Its biblical definition is:
“a brother, kinsman, or relative.”
That’s the
familial definition.
Cousins fall under it.
Nephews fall under it.
Step‑brothers fall under it.
Brothers‑in‑law fall under it.
And Scripture itself proves this:
- Abraham calls his nephew Lot adelphos (Genesis 13:8; 14:14 LXX).
- Laban calls his brother-in-law Jacob adelphos (Genesis 29:15 LXX).
- Eleazar’s daughters call their cousins adelphoi (1 Chronicles 23:22 LXX).
These are
familial relationships — but
not biological siblings.
Matthew uses the same biblical Greek.
And yes — I do know exactly who the men in Matthew 13:55 and Mark 6:3 are.
I know that
because of the specific passages that identify their mother and family, not because the single word
adelphos magically tells us the precise type of relationship.
If I used
your method — isolating one verse and assuming the most literal modern‑English meaning — then I would also have to conclude that
Joseph is Jesus’s biological father, because Matthew 13:55 calls Jesus
“the carpenter's son” and names Joseph right alongside Mary and Jesus in the same verse.
But that would be wrong, because
other passages clarify Joseph’s relationship to Jesus:
- Joseph is Jesus’s putative, not biological father.
- The phrase “carpenter’s son” is a social designation, not a biological claim.
You accept that correction because
other verses clarify the relationship.
But you refuse to apply the
same principle to Jesus’s
adelphoi.
I know who
Joseph, Simon, James, and Judas are because of the same method you use for Joseph: you interpret Matthew 13:55
in light of other Scripture, not in isolation.
And those other passages identify their mother:
- Matthew 27:56
- Mark 15:40
- John 19:25
From these we learn:
- Mary of Clopas/Cleophas is the mother of at least two sons: James and Joseph.
- She is called the adelphe (sister/kinswoman) of Mary the Mother of Jesus.
The Koine Greek word
adelphe has the definitions:
“a sister; kinswoman or female relative; a fellow countrywoman; a female member of the Christian community.” Despite being named alongside other female Christians and countrywomen,
she is specifically called Jesus’s Mother’s adelphe, so its
familial definition must apply there. Since
two biological sisters would not both be named Mary,
adelphe here means
sister‑in‑law, and that makes
Clopas/Cleophas Joseph’s brother.
The earliest Christian writers unanimously affirm the same identification and add that
Clopas/Cleophas had four sons:
Which makes them
Jesus’s cousins by marriage, a relationship fully covered by the biblical semantic range of
adelphos:
“brother, kinsman, or relative.”
You said:
“You’re correct but your conclusion is wrong.”
But you didn’t explain
how it’s wrong.
You agreed that:
- Hegesippus explicitly says Clopas was Joseph’s brother (Hist. Eccl. II.11.2).
- That makes Clopas Jesus’s uncle, and
- Clopas’s sons — Joseph, Simon, James, and Judas — Jesus’s cousins by marriage.
That is the
only genealogical conclusion that follows from the evidence.
If you believe it’s “wrong,” then you need to show
why, using Scripture or history — not simply assert it.
And your question:
So again, identify one verse where Matthew uses adelphos for familial relationships other than biological brother.
has already been answered:
- Matthew 13:55 — familial, but not biological siblings.
- Matthew 12:49–50 — Jesus identifies the disciples as His adelphoi.
- Matthew 23:8 — Jesus calls His followers adelphoi.
- Matthew 28:10 — Jesus calls the apostles adelphoi.
These are all
familial uses of
adelphos that are
not biological siblings.
And no — discussing Jesus’ followers is
not a strawman.
It is
Matthew’s own usage of
adelphos for
specific, personally identified individuals in the immediate context who are
not biological siblings:
- Matthew 12:49–50 — Jesus points to the disciples standing right in front of Him and says: “these are My brothers.”
- Matthew 23:8 — Jesus tells His followers: “you are all brothers.”
- Matthew 28:10 — Jesus calls the apostles “My brothers.”
These verses do not mean the disciples are Jesus’s biological brothers; they simply prove that Matthew uses
adelphos for non‑biological relationships, which refutes your claim that Matthew uses the word only for biological siblings.
These are
not “spiritual metaphors.”
They are
familial designations applied to
real individuals present in the narrative, exactly like Matthew 13:55.
Your own numbers prove this: you say Matthew uses
adelphos 38 times — 17 “spiritual,” 21 “biological.”
But that classification is
your invention, not Matthew’s.
You’re sorting the uses
based on your conclusion, not based on the word’s meaning.
Your rule collapses again.
You’re not applying a
consistent linguistic standard — you’re inventing a
new rule every time Scripture contradicts your conclusion.