Jesus became Immortal

[pandaflower]

Not God to Servant, but Son to Servant.

This is talking about Jesus foregoing his privileges as a Son, Marks.

Do you know Paul's taking these thoughts from Isaiahs Servant Prophecies right?

God was Jesus. God,The Word, became flesh and dwelt among us.
Besides God there is no savior.
Which means our precious God is synonymous with our beloved savior.

 

[David in NJ]

Good question.

If you read Romans 8:3, what was it that God condemned in Jesus's nature? how was sin represented for God to do this?

1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a 2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh, 4so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

OK - here it is above = please point to the verse that claims "Jesus's nature"

 

[Hiddenthings]

Well, yes, I do know. But you are deflecting from the point here. Jesus wasn't talking about that. He meant what He said.

Much love!

So you do understand what it means.

Let me give you an example:

Revelation 13:8 (ESV): “And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.”

This is where preeminence is revealed.

Jesus was not literally slain before the foundation of the world, but he was foreordained to come. That's why He could confidently say he existed before Abraham.

It’s about faith, Marks, specifically, the eye of faith.

Don't align your understanding with those wayward Jews in the audience. Follow the example of your Lord!

 

[Hiddenthings]

God was Jesus. God,The Word, became flesh and dwelt among us.
Besides God there is no savior.
Which means our precious God is synonymous with our beloved savior.

At present there is a huge amount of evidence in this thread which @bdavidc has struggled to deal with. Maybe you can go back and help them?

God gave Jesus Immortality is the conclusively evidence provided. What you do with that of course is the next step.

 

[pandaflower]

God gave Jesus Immortality is the conclusively evidence provided. What you do with that of course is the next step.

Being God was Jesus, Jesus was in all ways immortal.
He proved that to us as he resurrected and walked this world for another forty days.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Being God was Jesus, Jesus was in all ways immortal.
He proved that to us as he resurrected and walked this world for another forty days.

No point in repeating the posts which have already been made.

 

[Hiddenthings]

1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a 2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh, 4so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

OK - here it is above = please point to the verse that claims "Jesus's nature"

How did He do this in the nature of His Son?

 

[pandaflower]

No point in repeating the posts which have already been made.

Any post that denies the message of God,that he was Jesus, is in error.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Any post that denies the message of God,that he was Jesus, is in error.

Maybe the truth and this thread is not for you then.

 

[pandaflower]

Maybe the truth and this thread is not for you then.

The truth is what God said of himself.
We do not know Jesus when we deny who Jesus said he is.

 

[Hiddenthings]

The truth is what God said of himself.
We do not know Jesus when we deny who Jesus said he is.

The truth is actually what the Father gave to Jesus and what he has given to you.

John 6:57 (ESV): “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me.”

It's a difficult subject if you have only known error.

 

[marks]

Jesus was not literally slain before the foundation of the world, but he was foreordained to come. That's why He could confidently say he existed before Abraham.

Actually, you should compare the verse to the parallel passage. You'll see that "from the foundation of the world" goes along with "whose names stand written". This is a common error. Check it out.

And all the same, Before Abraham was, I am, is a clear expression of both Jesus' pre-existence, and His eternal life.

Much love!

 

[pandaflower]

The truth is actually what the Father gave to Jesus and what he has given to you.

John 6:57 (ESV): “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me.”

It's a difficult subject if you have only known error.

I see that.

We do not know Jesus when we ignore his full teachings.

 

[quietthinker]

Jesus became Immortal ?​

John 1:1-4
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 5:26
For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.

 

[PS95]

You said Jesus did not become the author of Life, but the Word states he did.

Hebrews 5:9 “And (Jesus) being made perfect, he BECAME the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him.

Out of interest, of all the references which support this truth which ones are you most concerned about?

Jesus being raised by the glory of his Father?
Jesus being made perfect and becoming the source of eternal life?
Or was it Psalm 21:4 which the Lord quotes in John 5?
Romans 1 the declaration of the Son of God with Power! (Power referring to his reward, Divine Nature)

And what of those six facts you are yet to deal with?

1. You can't provide one verse that teaches duality of natures.
2. You fail to acknowledge the words of David, Jesus and the Apostle Paul who all agree (yet you don't!)
3. You can't show a single verse that states Jesus raise himself from the dead!
4. You do not understand why Christ was raised BY the Glory of the Father
5. You don't understand how Christ became the Son of God with Power (glory) by the resurrection of the dead.
6. You now fail to understand how God "made" Jesus perfect, and he became the source of eternal life.

It was a good exchange one which I'm sure you will look back on once you realize you don't have the evidence for a pre-existent Christ.

If you have time, can you show from the Word how God made his Son perfect? What is the inference?

How did this process lead Jesus to salvation?

Lots for you to consider!

I have never spoken to you about the Author of life. You must be confused.
Acts 3:15 You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. And we are witnesses of this fact.

Heb 12:2- fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

I gave you a long list proving the preexistence of Jesus. I am not concerned about anything other than you deny them. But that's your choice. You've been shown. I have no interest in arguing with someone who denies this very basic truth. Here is one more.-

John 3:31He who comes from above is above all, he who is of the earth is from the earth and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.