Jesus became Immortal

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Hiddenthings

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Delect as much as you can.
Your deal is gross error.
You deny Jesus , and then hide from the word of God.
You are as false as they come.
Any bible hound can smell you a mile off.
You seem to be driven more by emotion and lack discernment.

You’re a latecomer to the thread, so I’ll give you some leeway. Go back, review all the arguments, and try to improve where others have failed.
 

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No, it had nothing to do with Acts 2 and was a jumbled mess.

On both counts, it's just a poorly thought-out reply.

If you need help, just ask!
Help?
The blind leads nobody.
Get a bible.
Cast down and deny your false religion, and get born again.
 

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This was the unshakable evidence.

Jesus quoting Psalms 21:4 is where's it at.

As David wrote, He (Jesus) asked life of You (God), and You (God) gave it to him, length of days forever and ever (Psalm 21:4).
Jesus affirmed, “The Father has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).
Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life” (John 6:35) and, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (for Life) except through me (John 14:6).

“I live because of the Father” (John 6:57), and again, “As the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).

Paul’s declaration in 1 Timothy simply reflects what Jesus himself had already taught: that true, self-existing immortality belongs only to the Father.

Read it carefully and you will see why and how Jesus is the first fruits of them that sleep. You will also see how high God exalted His Son in raising him from the dead and blessing him with Life Eternal.

The first of his brothers!

For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he (Jesus) is not ashamed to call them brothers, saying, “I will tell of your name (God's Name) to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation, I will sing your praise.” Hebrews 2:11-12

I have a prophecy confirming this is true
I have the words of Jesus confirming this is true
I have the words of Paul confirming this is true

What I don't have is you confirming this is true!
 

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If you focus less on sensationalism and engage with the Scripture, you might have a better chance of sparking a meaningful conversation. The hype feels a bit overblown for my taste.

Let's see how you go.
 

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Are you serious?

"But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.'" Hebrews 1:8

And


You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.” Heb 1:9.

I'm not looking to get into a debate with someone who quotes Hebrews 1:8

Engage with the OP if you wish to contribute, otherwise, feel free to move on to more agreeable topics.
The bible is a spiritual book.
See what you just did?
You want God in your one dimensional box.

You post the verse and reframe what GOD SAID.

All cults have that same mark.
Deny Jesus' person.

You deny His deity big time.
False cult religions.
They all do that.
The deity of Jesus sets all us believers apart from the cults and false religion
Deny him if you will.
You could not make a bigger mistake.
 

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The bible is a spiritual book.
See what you just did?
You want God in your one dimensional box.

You post the verse and reframe what GOD SAID.

All cults have that same mark.
Deny Jesus' person.

You deny His deity big time.
False cult religions.
They all do that.
The deity of Jesus sets all us believers apart from the cults and false religion
Deny him if you will.
You could not make a bigger mistake.
Yeah, you're not doing so well 454.
 

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This was the unshakable evidence.

Jesus quoting Psalms 21:4 is where's it at.

As David wrote, He (Jesus) asked life of You (God), and You (God) gave it to him, length of days forever and ever (Psalm 21:4).
Jesus affirmed, “The Father has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).
Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life” (John 6:35) and, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (for Life) except through me (John 14:6).

“I live because of the Father” (John 6:57), and again, “As the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).

Paul’s declaration in 1 Timothy simply reflects what Jesus himself had already taught: that true, self-existing immortality belongs only to the Father.

Read it carefully and you will see why and how Jesus is the first fruits of them that sleep. You will also see how high God exalted His Son in raising him from the dead and blessing him with Life Eternal.

The first of his brothers!

For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he (Jesus) is not ashamed to call them brothers, saying, “I will tell of your name (God's Name) to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation, I will sing your praise.” Hebrews 2:11-12

I have a prophecy confirming this is true
I have the words of Jesus confirming this is true
I have the words of Paul confirming this is true

What I don't have is you confirming this is true!
No Christian can fully unpack the trinity.
And you, operating as a cultist, of course that ONE DYNAMIC, removes you from any salvation, because you attack the person of Jesus.

You will not have success in here with saints that KNOW THEIR BIBLE.

I posted 2 verses that you cast down.
You are so false.
 

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No Christian can fully unpack the trinity.
And you, operating as a cultist, of course that ONE DYNAMIC, removes you from any salvation, because you attack the person of Jesus.

You will not have success in here with saints that KNOW THEIR BIBLE.

I posted 2 verses that you cast down.
You are so false.
More of the same.
Deal with the text or continue to look like this...:no reply:
 

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From your response, it seems like you read through much of the thread and decided to come on strong, which only added more weight to a discussion that was, by the way, quite dormant.

You can make all sorts of personal taunts and empty accusations, but the real issue is failing to engage with the evidence. I’m here if you have something meaningful to say.
 

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@rebuilder 454

If you focus less on sensationalism and engage with the Scripture, you might have a better chance of sparking a meaningful conversation. The hype feels a bit overblown for my taste.

Let's see how you go.
I gave you 2 verses.
You cast them down.
Basically you are saying:
"God you do not fit my box, you can't be right because IN MY MIND you misspoke, and I can prove to you God,you need my correction"

Good luck with the Bible perversion
 

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I gave you 2 verses.
You cast them down.
Basically you are saying:
"God you do not fit my box, you can't be right because IN MY MIND you misspoke, and I can prove to you God,you need my correction"

Good luck with the Bible perversion
So, I take that as a no. And I don’t need luck; I have something far more solid and reliable
 

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That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Taken. Like, its illegible!
Really?
You do not understand the bible?
In Genesis it says ;
"Let us create man in our image"

What say you?
Is the bible also wrong in a plurality of God?
 

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What we’ve discovered in this thread is that few believers have truly reflected on the topic and its significance in relation to the life God has placed in Christ, and why that was necessary.
 

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Really?
You do not understand the bible?
In Genesis it says ;
"Let us create man in our image"

What say you?
Is the bible also wrong in a plurality of God?
Do you normally use other people's posts?

#183 is waiting for you to respond to in your own words.
 

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So, I take that as a no. And I don’t need luck; I have something far more solid and reliable
There is no telling who has lead you.
Maybe watchtower.

The bible teaches the trinity.
Jesus and God as deity.
The Holy Spirit as deity.
All cultists , such as yourself , deny that dynamic.

Any true believer adheres to the pillars of our faith.
We are not "mentalists" .
Every cultist is mentalist.

They seek to pervert the pillars of our faith.
Jesus as God.... they detest it.
The virgin birth, the cross, the resurrection, the blood, the gift of grace, ..
All perverted by cultists and cast down.

Or foundation is the person and deity of Christ.
All cultists AUTOMATICALLY cast down the pillars as well as the foundation.
 

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Do you normally use other people's posts?

#183 is waiting for you to respond to in your own words.
Who is "us" and "our".

You can not answer?
Or maybe you never saw that in Genesis?
Need more time?
You claim expert knowledge?
Now , a simple basic dynamic you can not answer?
 
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