"Jesus conquered the Beast in 70 AD" video

[NotTheRock]

There is no verse with "second coming"

Incorrect.

Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

 

[ewq1938]

Incorrect.

Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

You proved me correct.

 

[David in NJ]

There is no verse with "second coming". There are no verses with any English words because the NT was written in Greek. Your question is using a fallacy known as the argument from silence.

YES, there is a verse with "second time" irrevocably = "His Coming"

It is crystal CLEAR = Hebrews 9:28

so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

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[David in NJ]

Incorrect.

Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

i did not see your post and posted the same scripture - HalelluYAH

 

[David in NJ]

22-minute video. Very scriptural. Is he correct?

HE blundered from Scripture in his first minute of speaking.

There will be no "christian" ruling on earth until CHRIST Returns with the Saints for the Resurrection as well as for Judgment upon the world.

Believe the LORD Jesus when HE said this(John 18:36) to the world governing power which continues to this day.

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

When the LORD Returns, HE Returns to FIGHT = Revelation 19:11-16

Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True.
With righteousness He judges and wages war. He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.

The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.​

 

[NotTheRock]

You proved me correct.

Goodbye.

 

[NotTheRock]

i did not see your post and posted the same scripture - HalelluYAH

Another shared it with me because I couldn't immediately recall if any scriptures specified a "second" coming. Where I'm headed with this is that I believe it's POSSIBLE that Jesus DID return in 70 AD and that he may certainly return again in the future.

 

[NotTheRock]

When the LORD Returns, HE Returns to FIGHT = Revelation 19:11-16

That verse seems to contrast the aforementioned Hebrews verse regarding Jesus's "second coming" as it says (in part) "...will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him."

So that means Jesus was to return to "will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.".

What do you think?

 

[David in NJ]

Another shared it with me because I couldn't immediately recall if any scriptures specified a "second" coming. Where I'm headed with this is that I believe it's POSSIBLE that Jesus DID return in 70 AD and that he may certainly return again in the future.

Actually it is IMPOSSIBLE that Jesus returned in 70 AD

#1 - From Genesis to Revelation there is only TWO Comings of the LORD in the flesh.

#2 - As the Gospel/Jesus points out - HE will not FIGHT until His Second Coming

#3 - The Antichrist is destoyed only at His Second Coming = 2 Thess ch2 and 1 John chapter 2

#4 - The RESURRECTION of the Saints ONLY occurs at His Second Coming = 1 Thess 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians ch15

#5 - and there is even MORE scripture to nullify any and every falsehood

SHALOM

 

[David in NJ]

That verse seems to contrast the aforementioned Hebrews verse regarding Jesus's "second coming" as it says (in part) "...will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him."

So that means Jesus was to return to "will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.".

What do you think?

i LIKE what you said because that is exactly Hebrews 9:28

SAME here = 1 Thess 1:10

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

 

[David in NJ]

That verse seems to contrast the aforementioned Hebrews verse regarding Jesus's "second coming" as it says (in part) "...will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him."

So that means Jesus was to return to "will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.".

What do you think?

ACTUALLY i read this more carefully and you made an error that nullifies your presumption of a 70AD return.

Please read Hebrews 9:28 again CAREFULLY and let me know if you see where you changed scripture.

 

[ewq1938]

YES, there is a verse with "second time" irrevocably = "His Coming"

It is crystal CLEAR = Hebrews 9:28

so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

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Words in quotes require that exact wording. No verse has the exact words, "second coming". Which is why it's a logical fallacy for people to ask for and require exact wording or else they reject the thing being discussed. A second coming is scriptural, but not in such exact wording.

 

[David in NJ]

Words in quotes require that exact wording. No verse has the exact words, "second coming". Which is why it's a logical fallacy for people to ask for and require exact wording or else they reject the thing being discussed. A second coming is scriptural, but not in such exact wording.

"second time" is irrevocably to His Appearing which is absolutely the same as His Coming.
the language structure means it is impossible to negate

Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

His Appearing = His Coming

1 Peter 1:20 - For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you

Titus 2:11 = For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,

1 John 3:1-3 = Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

 

[David in NJ]

Words in quotes require that exact wording. No verse has the exact words, "second coming". Which is why it's a logical fallacy for people to ask for and require exact wording or else they reject the thing being discussed. A second coming is scriptural, but not in such exact wording.

speaking of "words"

many false doctrines come from this pertaining to both words and actions: "straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel"

 

[Marvelloustime]

IF we focus on the signs also and what is going around within and around us
THINGS will become much clearer .
For these who had hollered healing the wound and fire from heaven
Have now led us into a peace covenant they beleive can bring peace n sa fety to the world .
AND NOT ONLY that .
Take a seat my friend . WE HAVE US A DIGITAL SYSTEM
by which it will be ran by AI .
And they themselves have admitted with such a sytstem it can cut ANYONE out unable to buy or to sell .
AND what do you notice about AI .
IT can produce ANY IMAGE that can speak ANY langauge .
And now a word .
AND he had power to give LIFE unto the image of the beast so that the image could BOTH SPEAK and cause .
LOOK around . We need to be here to help each other now . to stand and contend for the true faith .
TIMES have changed , laws have changed , and things are only getting much more deceptive .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

I look forward to looking what you find.

I searched too for the chant,as related to Pope Francis, send fire from Heaven.
A few sites claimed that is false as regard peoples claim Francis had changed such a thing.

So far I haven't found anything that reports people chanting that in the presence of Francis.

it was kenneth and kairos that were chanting the fire from heaven .
i never saw pope francis saying that . However they all were speaking of this healing the wound .

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
Try this video of Pope Francis talking about healing the wound.

 

[ProDeo]

The rapture definitely did not happen and it happens at the one and only second coming.

You snipped the Scripture I posted, why ???

So again :

Matt 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Matt 24 is a prophecy about AD 70.

It's not about us.

 

[ProDeo]

Another shared it with me because I couldn't immediately recall if any scriptures specified a "second" coming. Where I'm headed with this is that I believe it's POSSIBLE that Jesus DID return in 70 AD and that he may certainly return again in the future.

Zach chapters 12-14 may be a good start, unfulfilled at the moment.

Some snippets -

Zach 12:2 “Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples. The siege of Jerusalem will also be against Judah.
Zach 12:3 On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who lift it will surely hurt themselves. And all the nations of the earth will gather against it.

The war in Gaza has changed the mindset of many countries, last ally USA. A future POTUS can change all that.

Zach 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

Future.

Zach 14:2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zach 14:3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.
Zach 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward.

Future.

 

[NotTheRock]

Zach chapters 12-14 may be a good start, unfulfilled at the moment.

Some snippets -

Zach 12:2 “Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples. The siege of Jerusalem will also be against Judah.
Zach 12:3 On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who lift it will surely hurt themselves. And all the nations of the earth will gather against it.

The war in Gaza has changed the mindset of many countries, last ally USA. A future POTUS can change all that.

Zach 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

Future.

Zach 14:2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zach 14:3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.
Zach 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward.

Future.

Is it possible that Jesus returned in 70 AD and will return again in the future?