"Jesus conquered the Beast in 70 AD" video

[ewq1938]

You snipped the Scripture I posted, why ???

So again :

Matt 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Matt 24 is a prophecy about AD 70.

It's not about us.

No, it's about the church and not about AD 70.

 

[David in NJ]

You snipped the Scripture I posted, why ???

So again :

Matt 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Matthew ch24 = TRUTH for the Body of Christ = pay FULL ATTENTION to what is being asked

"While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately.
“Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and the end of the age?”

Matt 24 is a prophecy about AD 70.
It's not about us.

FALSEHOOD - dispensation heresy


Matthew ch24 = TRUTH for the Body of Christ = pay FULL ATTENTION to what the LORD's answer and Prophecy is.

Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10At that time many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, 11and many false prophets will arise and deceive many.

12Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. 13But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.


No 2nd Coming of CHRIST in 70AD because the LORD Jesus Christ Said So = Listen and obey the LORD

 

[NotTheRock]

Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed...

Who is "you" in Jesus's statement? Is it the apostles who were standing directly in front of Jesus or is "you" about Christians 2,000 years in the future?

 

[ProDeo]

Who is "you" in Jesus's statement? Is it the apostles who were standing directly in front of Jesus or is "you" about Christians 2,000 years in the future?

Good catch.

 

[ProDeo]

Is it possible that Jesus returned in 70 AD and will return again in the future?

1948 is a sign on the wall.

And we do know Jesus bodily will return on the mount of Olives (Zach 14:4) as He ascended from the mount of Olives (Acts 1:9,12).

Corresponding Scriptures -

Zach 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward.

Acts 1:9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.

Acts 1:12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away.

 

[David in NJ]

Who is "you" in Jesus's statement? Is it the apostles who were standing directly in front of Jesus or is "you" about Christians 2,000 years in the future?

GREAT question - thank you

Your question was asked before by the Lord to His disciples about Himself = Matt 16:13-14

When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, is?”
So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”


The answer to your question = Who are the Apostles???

Those who follow the error of dispensation will say: "the apostles are Israel and not the Church"

But who does the Holy Spirit Say they are???

Let me know who you think the Apostles represent in Matthew 24 - thank you

 

[ProDeo]

@ProDeo said :
Matt 24 is a prophecy about AD 70.
It's not about us.

@David in NJ said :
FALSEHOOD - dispensation heresy

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Matt 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt 26:62 And the high priest stood up and said, “Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?”
Matt 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. And the high priest said to him, “I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.”
Matt 26:64 Jesus said to him, “You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Hard to ignore, or ?

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ said :
FALSEHOOD - dispensation heresy

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Matt 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt 26:62 And the high priest stood up and said, “Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?”
Matt 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. And the high priest said to him, “I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.”
Matt 26:64 Jesus said to him, “You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Hard to ignore, or ?

This is how the LORD JESUS CHRIST defines 'generation' as well as who-is-who!!!

Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ said :
FALSEHOOD - dispensation heresy

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Matt 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt 26:62 And the high priest stood up and said, “Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?”
Matt 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. And the high priest said to him, “I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.”
Matt 26:64 Jesus said to him, “You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Hard to ignore, or ?

@NotTheRock asked a GREAT question about Matthew ch24

Examine Post 86 and see if you can find the Truth given to us earlier in the Gospel of Matthew

Shalom

 

[David in NJ]

Good catch.

Post 86

 

[NotTheRock]

@NotTheRock asked a GREAT question about Matthew ch24

It seems that the "this generation" statement made by Jesus is the most persuasive verse to support the belief that Jesus returned in 70 AD.

 

[NotTheRock]

Let me know who you think the Apostles represent in Matthew 24 - thank you

I believe Jesus was speaking to and about the Apostles when he said "YOU will be persecuted..."

I'm inferring that you don't agree with that belief, correct?

 

[David in NJ]

It seems that the "this generation" statement made by Jesus is the most persuasive verse to support the belief that Jesus returned in 70 AD.

When i first started reading the Bible i thought as such until i really studied the Gospel and the whole Bible beginning in Genesis and ending in Revelation.

SEE Post 88 for how the LORD defines "a generation" as well as 'who-is-who'

 

[NotTheRock]

Examine Post 86 and see if you can find the Truth given to us earlier in the Gospel of Matthew

Sorry brother. I'm a bit slow. Can you connect the dots for me, please?

 

[David in NJ]

I believe Jesus was speaking to and about the Apostles when he said "YOU will be persecuted..."

I'm inferring that you don't agree with that belief, correct?

The Apostles were the only ones persecuted???

Believing such a error as that throws DEEP INSULT to God and all the Saints who have suffered with the Apostles and the Billions who have suffered for their witness in Christ over the past 2,000 and it is continuing and will get much worse!!!

Psalm 116:15 - Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of His saints.

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry brother. I'm a bit slow. Can you connect the dots for me, please?

i would like @ProDeo to give it a shot with us together

Hello @ProDeo = ya in?

 

[NotTheRock]

SEE Post 88 for how the LORD defines "a generation" as well as 'who-is-who'

My understanding is that a "generation" can mean 20 years to millenniums based on the context.

 

[NotTheRock]

The Apostles were the only ones persecuted???

Believing such a error as that throws DEEP INSULT to God and all the Saints who have suffered with the Apostles and the Billions who have suffered for their witness in Christ over the past 2,000 and it is continuing and will get much worse!!!

Psalm 116:15 - Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of His saints.

Honestly David, I don't believe that you're following the scriptures. I think you're trying to force the scriptures to fit your personal theology. But I still love ya brother! We can have different doctrinal understandings and still be brothers, right?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

My understanding is that a "generation" can mean 20 years to millenniums based on the context.

What defines a generation in the Bible?

10) Cultural and Social Dimensions
In Scripture, a “generation” is not merely an arbitrary age bracket but includes shared experiences and societal markers. From the generation that wandered in the wilderness under Moses (Numbers 14:29-34) to the generations that witnessed Jesus’ earthly ministry, the term highlights collective identity.
Additionally, blessings or consequences can be generational. Cultural norms regarding inheritance, leadership succession, and community responsibilities often revolve around generational lines, as exemplified in Ruth’s lineage linking to King David (Ruth 4:13-22).
11) Summary and Conclusion
A “generation” in the Bible can be understood along several lines:
• Genealogical/Lineage: Tracing biological descent to establish family records and biblical chronology.
• Temporal Span: Expressing the approximate duration of a group’s existence (commonly 40 to 70+ years in certain contexts).
• Cultural/Societal: Defining a people united by shared experiences and social identity in an era.
• Covenantal/Spiritual: Highlighting continuity of faith, inheritance, and moral accountability.
Biblical references, preserved with striking reliability in manuscripts and corroborated by archaeological insights, consistently underline that a generation forms an integral link in the outworking of divine providence. Whether describing a group of people facing judgment, inheriting blessings, or witnessing momentous events, Scripture’s use of “generation” conveys the collective passage of responsibility and legacy from one era to the next. The question of how Scripture defines a generation thus points to an interwoven concept of time, faith, and heritage-always under the sovereign oversight of the Creator.

 

[David in NJ]

Honestly David, I don't believe that you're following the scriptures. I think you're trying to force the scriptures to fit your personal theology. But I still love ya brother! We can have different doctrinal understandings and still be brothers, right?

Love you as well my brother.
i am glad you brought this up.
There is only one Way to approach the Scriptures = Proverbs 30:5-6
We can NEVER add our words to God's neither can we take away from all that God has spoken.

You must show a 'force' upon the scriptures from my posts since your statement implies a negative