(blessed76;36896)
I don't understand something. My Bible tells me that Jesus died on the cross and has risen. Jewish people don't believe he has risen yet, that He could be born as any male child at any time.Yet Jesus says that the Jews are His chosen people. Are they going to Heaven even though they don't believe He is risen?
Blessed, let me clarify somethings for you, but I lack the time tonight to go into excessive detail.What you (and most people) do not realize is that there is an election of
race, and there's an election of
grace.the earth, and all therein is a mirror of spiritual things and indeed, they coexist. God has chosen (a race) as a family on this earth as light-bearers to the fallen world. Initially they received the Law. this is a physical family and very real people that were/are supposed to emulate God's spiritual Laws. Included in that are provisions for God's grace, open to all both of the race and non-race.It is possible to be chosen of race, receive the Kingdom, receive the promises, and yet lack personal salvation, although lacking that is not God's intent. But for the promise's sake, God still has a chosen race with all the earthly, material blessing that goes with it
for the purpose of being a light and blessing to the rest so that
grace may come. And even if they do not bring light, because He promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the people would be blessed.Now for the surprising part. The Jews are not 12 tribes, but basically 2. The nation of Israel split (like the United States) into two parts: the house of Israel in the north and the house of Judah to the south. The rest of the ten tribes of Israel were in exile and never returned to the land the way the Jews did. These would become the purveyors of the New Covenant, and thus seen as "Gentiles" and Paul even addressed these Israelites as such. Yet, in actuality, if we study the Bible carefully, the promises actually went to them. The Jew basically had the right to rule and law-making function. That is it. The Jew does not have the birthright. The tribe of Joseph does, and Joseph became gentile nations (just as Joseph became a Gentile) into the world and became the Christian nations we have today, traditionally Britain, NW Europe incl Scandinavian nations, and ultimately the United States.On a side note here, this is why one disciple rejected Jesus--- Judas. Judas was a type of Judah, the Jew. But the other "tribes" of disciples actually were receptive to Christianity, as Israel is receptive. But the Jew is not receptive.I already did a thread about the birthright found here:
Birthright