JOHN 11:25 THE RESURRECTION

[Doug]

John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

Jesus has promised that by believing in him we shall live, never to die. There is no caveat here to the promise of eternal life, to give it, then take it away. There is nothing for us to do to know we have life everlasting but to believe. It is all by Christ Jesus.

Martha believed on Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God unto eternal life (John 3:16 John 20:31). Martha confessed that Jesus is Christ, the Son of God according to the requirements of the covenant for blessing (1 Kings 8:35-36 Matthew 10:32 Romans 10:9 1 john 4:15 5:5 Revelation 3:5).

There are two resurrections:

Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

There will be a resurrection of the just and the unjust.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Paul is speaking of a mystery resurrection that was kept secret until revealed thru Paul. This resurrection is only for the body of Christ and the resurrection of the just and unjust is not in view.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The resurrection of those in the body of Christ occurs before the tribulation ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10). They will be resurrected and be given positions in the heavenly places (Ephesians 1:3 Ephesians 2:6).

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The first resurrection is of the old testament saints, the kingdom new testament saints, and the tribulation saints; the first resurrection occurs after the tribulation, at the Lord's coming.

Those in Christ are the kingdom saints who believed on Jesus before the dispensation of grace and the body of Christ was revealed to Paul. The kingdom saints will enter into the promised kingdom on earth and reign with Christ.

The old testament saints are resurrected as well in the first resurrection and will enter the kingdom. It can be seen that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will be raised at this time to enter the kingdom (Matthew 8:11).

The saints who die in the tribulation are likewise included in the first resurrection. They will be raised at the coming of the Lord Jesus and as stated in Revelation 20:4, will enter the Davidic kingdom on earth and reign with Christ.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The rest of the dead are all the unbelievers from Adam onward.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The believing remnant of Israel, Jew and Gentile, consisting of the old testament saints, the kingdom saints, and the tribulation saints will enter the kingdom. The Israel of God will be priests unto God and shall reign with Christ.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The unbelievers are the rest of the dead and are risen last after the thousand year reign of Christ to stand before the great white throne according to Revelation 20:5 ; this is the resurrection of the unjust. The second death is being thrown into the lake of fire.

The resurrection of the just is referred to as being at "the last day" in John. The resurrection of the just believers occurs in the last day, which is the end of the tribulation; at the end of the tribulation Christ returns.

 

[Fred J]

There are two resurrections:

Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

There will be a resurrection of the just and the unjust.

Matthew 25: 31 - 46

This is the judgement on the just and unjust Christian believer servants, who're resurrected for the final judgement.

As there are parables of Jesus about, good and faithful servants and on the contrary servants.

Unbelievers apparently will be cast into hell fire, who welcome not the Gospel in their lifetime and loved darkness.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

This is the rapture of the Christians saints, from the dead Apostles to the church until Christ's 2nd coming.

And the alive and remain saints at the same time, who escape tribulation caused by anti-Christ, false prophet and the world.

Also at this rapture, one will be taken and the other left behind, being not ready as in the parable of the 10 virgins.

The resurrection of those in the body of Christ occurs before the tribulation ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10). They will be resurrected and be given positions in the heavenly places (Ephesians 1:3 Ephesians 2:6).

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

How can you say before the tribulation, when in Revelation as above, the saints did undergo tribulation under anti-Christ.

The first resurrection is of the old testament saints, the kingdom new testament saints, and the tribulation saints; the first resurrection occurs after the tribulation, at the Lord's coming.

Again, the first resurrection or rapture, are only for the dead in Christ, and not the Old Testament saints.

 

[Doug]

Matthew 25: 31 - 46

This is the judgement on the just and unjust Christian believer servants, who're resurrected for the final judgement.

As there are parables of Jesus about, good and faithful servants and on the contrary servants.

Unbelievers apparently will be cast into hell fire, who welcome not the Gospel in their lifetime and loved darkness.


This is the rapture of the Christians saints, from the dead Apostles to the church until Christ's 2nd coming.

And the alive and remain saints at the same time, who escape tribulation caused by anti-Christ, false prophet and the world.

Also at this rapture, one will be taken and the other left behind, being not ready as in the parable of the 10 virgins.

How can you say before the tribulation, when in Revelation as above, the saints did undergo tribulation under anti-Christ.

Again, the first resurrection or rapture, are only for the dead in Christ, and not the Old Testament saints.

This is the judgement on the just and unjust Christian believer servants, who're resurrected for the final judgement.

As there are parables of Jesus about, good and faithful servants and on the contrary servants.

Unbelievers apparently will be cast into hell fire, who welcome not the Gospel in their lifetime and loved darkness.

Matthew 25 31-46 takes place when Christ returns V31
He will return at the end of the tribulation
He will gather the nations and separate them v32
He will set the sheep on his left and the goats on the right v33
He tells the sheep they will enter the prophetic promised Davidic kingdom on earth v34........Those deemed worthy to enter the kingdom are Gentiles (the nations are Gentile)
They will enter the kingdom based on how they treated Israel in the tribulation v35-40
The goats will be cast into hell based on how they treated Israel in the tribulation v41
The Gentiles are physically alive at this judgment.......they are not resurrected.......in the kingdom old testament saints, the church that Paul persecuted, and those saints who were killed in the tribulation will be resurrected....,,,,these Gentiles will enter the kingdom alive as well as the Jews who lived thru the tribulation
This is not the resurrection of the just and unjust because those in the Gentile nations are NOT resurrected.....they are alive

As far as your statements on servants
They are believing Jews and are judged at his return
The servants that are profitable will be reward with authority in the kingdom on earth
The unprofitable servants will be cast into outer darkness NOT hell
This can be seen in several parables

This is the rapture of the Christians saints, from the dead Apostles to the church until Christ's 2nd coming

The "rapture" is a mystery (1 Cor 15:51) only revealed by Paul and only involves the church the body of Christ

And the alive and remain saints at the same time, who escape tribulation caused by anti-Christ, false prophet and the world.

Also at this rapture, one will be taken and the other left behind, being not ready as in the parable of the 10 virgins.

The church the body of Christ will not go thru the tribulation

The verse that say one taken the other left is not talking about the rapture.....the one taken will enter the millennial kingdom on earth ....the one left will be destroyed at the coming of Christ (Zechariah 14:2-4 Revelation 19:11-19)

How can you say before the tribulation, when in Revelation as above, the saints did undergo tribulation under anti-Christ.

[1Th 1:10 KJV] 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
The day of the Lord is the wrath of God and we are not appointed to undergo it.......the tribulation is to purify Israel for the coming of Christ

Again, the first resurrection or rapture, are only for the dead in Christ, and not the Old Testament saints.

The first resurrection is not the "rapture"

 

[Fred J]

Do you believe the tribulation mentioned in the scripture is during the reign of anti-Christ?

Are testifying that the church saints will be raptured before this tribulation of the anti-Christ?

 

[Fred J]

About the final judgement, Jesus separate the sheep from the goats.

How can an unbeliever who's not born again and saved, able to recognize the Lord, and lend him a helping hand?

This scripture below refers to the sheep, who's not even allowed to take nothing of the Gentiles.

3 John
5. Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers;
6. Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church: whom if thou bring forward on their journey after a godly sort, thou shalt do well:
7. Because that for His name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.
8. We therefore ought to receive such, that we might be fellowhelpers to the truth.

And here Apostle Paul briefly witness to us about goats among many in the church or churches.

3 John
9. I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.
10. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
11. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of GOD: but he that doeth evil hath not seen GOD.

As i mentioned, unbelievers who've not welcome the Gospel in their lifetime, will perish in hell without judgement at the wrath to come.

Jesus on the final judgement merely separating between the good and faithful servants (sheep) from the bad and unfaithful ones (goats).

Matthew 7:
21. Not everyone that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My FATHER which is in Heaven.
22. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wondeful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.

For the record, only believers receive the Holy Ghost gifts to do these great works in Jesus name, not unbelievers.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Doug]

Do you believe the tribulation mentioned in the scripture is during the reign of anti-Christ?

Are testifying that the church saints will be raptured before this tribulation of the anti-Christ?

The anti christ is revealed during the tribulation

There is no definitive scripture that says the church the body of Christ will not go thru the tribulation but there is scripture that indicate it
[1Th 5:9 KJV] 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thessalonians 5 is talking of the day of the Lord v2
we are not of the darkness v4

 

[Fred J]

The anti christ is revealed during the tribulation

Correct, what sign is given by Christ Jesus, that we will know at that time he's the anti-Christ?

A man will make a peace treaty with Israel, and will give them the go ahead to rebuild their third Temple.

Israel will complete building their third Temple and sacrifices according to the Law of Moses is offered day and night.

There is no definitive scripture that says the church the body of Christ will not go thru the tribulation but there is scripture that indicate it

i don't get you, but the church will undergo the tribulation under the reign of anti-Christ, and here's the scripture.

Revelation 20:
4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Doug]

i don't get you, but the church will undergo the tribulation under the reign of anti-Christ, and here's the scripture.

Revelation 20:
4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[Rev 20:6 KJV] 6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Verse 6 says who they are They arent us the church the body of Christ......they are believing Israel...............Israel will be priests........Paul never calls us priests
[Rev 1:6 KJV] 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
[Rev 5:10 KJV] 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
[Isa 61:6 KJV] 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: [men] shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
[1Pe 2:5, 9 KJV] 5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. ... 9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Scofield's theology is like a GPS that insists on taking you through a cornfield to get to the freeway. You might eventually arrive, but you'll be covered in mud, confused, and wondering why you didn't just follow the actual road signs. Jesus said, 'I am the way' — not 'I am the way, but only after a detour through Dispensationalville.' Let's stick to the map He gave us."

Dispensationalism is like theological fan fiction — it takes real characters from Scripture, rewrites the plot, adds a few explosions, and somehow turns the Bride of Christ into a time-traveling side character who gets airlifted before the climax. It’s not the Gospel — it’s Scofield’s eschatological Marvel Universe, where Paul supposedly teaches one resurrection, Jesus teaches another, and Revelation gets diced into a Left Behind script. And let’s be honest — most of it was dreamed up by guys who thought Israel was a calendar and the Church was an afterthought.

This kind of theological gymnastics turns the plain words of Jesus — “at the last day” — into some secret backstage rapture that nobody in the early Church ever taught or expected. It mutilates the unity of the body, creates fake timelines, and builds an entire religion around avoiding suffering instead of preparing for the return of the King. It’s not just bad exegesis — it’s spiritual delusion. The kind Paul warned about when he said people would turn away from sound doctrine and heap up for themselves teachers who tell them what they want to hear (2 Tim 4:3–4).

So yeah — Scofield didn’t rightly divide the word.
He took a meat cleaver to it.

 

[Doug]

This kind of theological gymnastics turns the plain words of Jesus — “at the last day” — into some secret backstage rapture that nobody in the early Church ever taught or expected.

The last day is talking about the resurrection at the end of the tribulation not the rapture and I am a dispensationilist who thinks Scofield was not always right
Now there is a rapture which the early church could not know because it was a mystery only revealed at first by Paul....................[1Co 15:51 KJV] 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,