john wesley

[The Learner]

how does making whiskey in his bath tub promote holiness?

 

[Jay Ross]

how does making whiskey in his bath tub promote holiness?

I thought that the denomination that John Wesley helped create was a tea sipping community. Whiskey did not touch the denomination members' lips once brought into that fold.

You need to justify your claim quoted.

 

[nedsk]

how does making whiskey in his bath tub promote holiness?

Using the gifts God gave us to make a drink that people can sit around and enjoy and build fellowship together. Drinking alcohol is not immoral or unholy but drunkenness can be. Removing alcohol doesn't make you holy.

Mark 20: 18-23.

 

[The Learner]

I thought that the denomination that John Wesley helped create was a tea sipping community. Whiskey did not touch the denomination members' lips once brought into that fold.

You need to justify your claim quoted.

When I attended a Free Methodist Church they had history books that proves my claims. friend.,
The John Wesley Budweiser Beer ad pictured is from Nevada’s Tonopah Daily Bonanza which ran from 1906 to 1929.

In the John Wesley Budweiser Beer ad, the portion of the advertisement dedicated to John Wesley indicates that John Wesley once declared in one of his sermons: “Without bread and wine the strongest bodies decay… bread and wine keep up our natural life.” Another portion of the John Wesley Budweiser Beer ad indicates that John Wesley once criticized a book published by a Dr. Cadogan. In his criticism of the doctor, John Wesley is reported to praise the use of fermented liquor as ‘one of the noblest cordials of nature.’ The John Wesley Budweiser Beer ad goes on to portray that in a John Wesley pamphlet titled, ‘Primitive Physic,’ John Wesley advises his followers to: ‘Drink water only when it agrees with your stomach; if not, good small beer.’WESLEY & Why Did Budweiser Put Him in a Newspaper Ad?

It was simply what I read in their books.

 

[PS95]

No clue about whiskey in a bath tub and he did speak about being cautious of drinking strong spirits and he preferred ale.
John Wesley was known to have a taste for ale and did not completely abstain from alcohol, despite his opposition to the drinking of tea and the temperance movement that emerged later in Methodism. He believed in moderation rather than total abstinence.

https://www.wesleysheritage.org.uk/os/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Wesleys-Words-Teachers-Notes.pdf

 

[PS95]

OH lerner.. I just realized-- are you still waiting on me on the other site for a new jw thread?
Ugh I forgot.

 

[PS95]

How is the shoulder?!!

 

[Jay Ross]

‘Drink water only when it agrees with your stomach; if not, good small beer.’

Drinking water that one is not accustomed to can lead to stomach complications like diarrhoea. Ale was preferred in the 1800's because the bugs in the water, that caused diarrhoea, in the fluid were missing.

In Nepal people from one valley often get diarrhoea if they drank the water in another valley that they visited. Shop keepers do a great trade in bottled water in Nepal, but even then, one still has to be careful..

My grandfather, 1890-1970, when he left his farm to visit another locality always took water from his farm to drink while he was at that other locality, otherwise he would become sick.

Today, in more modern cities, the water quality is good enough for visitor to drink the reticulated town water without getting sick/diarrhoea.

 

[The Learner]

No clue about whiskey in a bath tub and he did speak about being cautious of drinking strong spirits and he preferred ale.
John Wesley was known to have a taste for ale and did not completely abstain from alcohol, despite his opposition to the drinking of tea and the temperance movement that emerged later in Methodism. He believed in moderation rather than total abstinence.

https://www.wesleysheritage.org.uk/os/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Wesleys-Words-Teachers-Notes.pdf

thanks for correctgion friend

 

[Lambano]

Today, in more modern cities, the water quality is good enough for visitor to drink the reticulated town water without getting sick/diarrhoea.

We're talking 18th century here. Drinkable tap water is a modern luxury most Americans don't appreciate until they cross the border into Mexico. Or visit almost any third-world country.

I noted on my recent business trip to Beijing that the faucets had signs in English and Mandarin warning people not to drink the water. Apparently, the capitol city of a highly technologically advanced nation is not able to provide its citizens with safe tap water.

Regrettably, the hotel did not provide free ale as a substitute.

 

[Lambano]

Still trying to picture John Wesley cracking open a Bud. We don't even use real wine in Communion.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Does noboddy on this site ever stop and run a search on challenging or different posts.
I found this in seconds.

WESLEY & Why Did Budweiser Put Him in a Newspaper Ad?

Commentary by Dr. Whitesel: A colleague sent me an unusual advertisement for beer that utilized Wesley’s comments. Printed at the height of the Temperance Movement, it apparently was an attem…

churchhealthwiki.wordpress.com

Do read it and note what a knowledgeable person wrote about the advert.

link for the authors own web site Al DeFilippo: About the Author - The Asbury Triptych

We are supposed to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpants! not gullible.

 

[The Learner]

Does noboddy on this site ever stop and run a search on challenging or different posts.
I found this in seconds.

WESLEY & Why Did Budweiser Put Him in a Newspaper Ad?

Commentary by Dr. Whitesel: A colleague sent me an unusual advertisement for beer that utilized Wesley’s comments. Printed at the height of the Temperance Movement, it apparently was an attem…

churchhealthwiki.wordpress.com

Do read it and note what a knowledgeable person wrote about the advert.

link for the authors own web site Al DeFilippo: About the Author - The Asbury Triptych

We are supposed to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpants! not gullible.

doing now

 

[The Learner]

doing now

thumbs up always great to learn

 

[nedsk]

We're talking 18th century here. Drinkable tap water is a modern luxury most Americans don't appreciate until they cross the border into Mexico. Or visit almost any third-world country.

I noted on my recent business trip to Beijing that the faucets had signs in English and Mandarin warning people not to drink the water. Apparently, the capital city of a highly technologically advanced nation is not able to provide its citizens with safe tap water.

Regretfully, the hotel did not provide free ale as a substitute.

We flush our toilets with potable water

 

[The Learner]

We flush our toilets with potable water

we go down to lake to fill tub for flushing water, use 1 gallon buckets in rest room

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[nedsk]

we go down to lake to fill tub for flushing water, use 1 gallon buckets in rest room

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The civilized among us have potable water pumped into our toilets. What aggravates me more is how much money people spend in bottled water. What comes out of our taps is cleaner than what 3/4 of the woods has to drink but that's not good enough for us. It's sad

 

[Lambano]

We flush our toilets with potable water

That's a good thing for dogs. We learned to keep the lid down when not in use.

 

[Lambano]

What aggravates me more is how much money people spend in bottled water.

I remember an assignee from Scotland who looked aghast at the Americans lined up to get bottled water out of the vending machine, and said in his native burr, "I'll nae pay a dollar for what I can get free out of the tap. I'm a Scotsman, you know." Aye, laddie. Me neither.

What's more aggravating is to see all the discarded water bottles along the bike paths and roadsides where I ride. (Not that used Budweiser cans would be better.) C'mon people. Don't be slobs.