Justice?

[DPMartin]

In the Lord Jesus Christ’s view, what is Justice? Or what is Justice based on?


Considering that He is Righteousness, can execute Judgment and Justice according to God the Father’s will, and has the power and authority to administer mercy at will to anyone who asks.

 

[Harry3142]

None of us would survive God's justice, because it requires absolute perfection in order to 'pass muster'. That's why God himself drew up the blueprints to an event which would satisfy that justice, and then carried out the plan to its completion via his Son, Jesus Christ:

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished - he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who believe in Jesus. (Romans 3:19-26,NIV)

We are given a choice: Either we can be so arrogant as to see ourselves as good anough to be classified as righteous in-and-of ourselves, or we can see ourselves realistically as falling short of what God demands of those who would take this route, and so accept the alternative which he freely offers to all who desire it. To choose God's justice is to perish; to choose his mercy is to receive the righteousness as a free gift which we could never have earned as a salary.

 

[DPMartin]

None of us would survive God's justice,

So what you are saying here is God’s Justice is based on condemnation and the destruction of, correct? If that is true, then what you would also be saying is those who don’t suffer the consequence of sin, have escaped justice and what God had done so that they would escape, isn’t justice.

 

[Harry3142]

DP Martin-

Are you perfect? Can you say that you have never committed any sins whatsoever in your entire life? If you cannot answer, "Yes," to these questions, then you are among the lost souls, as are all of us. With God there is no such thing as being 'good enough', so anyone who is not pure from the moment of birth to the moment of death is among the lost. This is God's justice.

And in order to see this in its proper perspective we need to identify God for who he is, rather than who we might want him to be. God is not a mayor, a governor, a president, or a prime minister; he is a king. It is we who must answer to him, rather than his answering to any of us. He has the power and authority to 'wash his hands of us' and go about his other business, leaving us to face a fate we deserve due to our innate weakness. But fortunately for us, he has chosen not to 'write us off' as lost souls by himself satisfying his requirement for justice:

Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: "The man who does these things will live by them." But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' " (that is, to bring Christ down) "or 'Who will descend into the deep?' " (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved, As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile - the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:5-13,NIV)

What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone." As it is written:

"See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame." (Romans 9:30-33,NIV)

 

[DPMartin]

Harry

Sorry there friend, you are wrong, you’re dead wrong. That which puts man in the place of sin wasn’t an act of God, was it? It was an act of man by trusting what the serpent said. And its not the desire of the Lord God to see the destruction of man is it? But it’s the desire of Satan for man’s destruction isn’t it? Man’s place of death isn’t the result of anything God has done, right? Though the life given man by the Lord God does require that man hear Him and believe/trust (faith) Him through what He says, to remain alive.

I am sure you’ve argued with none believers and they refuse to believe and or trust the Word of God and anything associated with the God of Israel. Who’s judgement is it that they execute, God’s, or their own? And what is the result of those who follow their own judgement? Isn't that what Adam and Eve did? Surly you understand if they executed God’s Judgement for them, they would follow Jesus, correct? God’s Judgement for mankind is Jesus Christ.

Justice is based on what is valued, and in most cases valued most. The destruction of mankind was never the plan. This is the very first thing that the Lord God said about what had taken place after the eating of the fruit, which is the promise of the Christ. Therefore God’s Justice is based on His Mercy which is Just, and what Justice is.

Gen:3:14: And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.