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bbyrd009

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Finally, compare their different "gospel" and their different "Christ" with Scripture. Theirs is a false gospel and false Christ, it is "another testament." No need for any professing believers to be gullible.
heres the deal, see, Christ is Spirit, and you are a jerk, kinda, on a good day i mean, no offense, but you even call yourself "p4t" as if you know something, right, when Scripture plainly tells us that those who commend themselves are fools?
So, being as how you are surely a Cult of Sol with a warped gospel yourself, and that no one can tell you a thing to boot, right, you know everything, no offense but for my part imo jd has some great insights, that even supercede your Mithraists imaginations, regardless her feelings on Melchizedek which i even understand right now.
Jesus didn't "come into existence by birth." Since that is your belief you're as heretical as a Mormon that you're attempting to rebuke.
do you only speak in Absolute Truths bro, or have you ever had an observation? Btw do you only Preach at Others from On High, or is it possible for us to have a conversation with Your Esteemed Presence?

jesus h already, do you got it bad or what?

if you dont shut your pie hole pretty soon ima report you for abuse, ok
you are not allowed to suggest that ppl who do not hold your religious views are lost, ok sir?

Jesus we have a genealogy for, right, deceived believer in Apollos?
 
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heres the deal, see, Christ is Spirit, and you are a jerk, kinda, on a good day i mean, no offense, but you even call yourself "p4t" as if you know something, right, when Scripture plainly tells us that those who commend themselves are fools?
So, being as how you are surely a Cult of Sol with a warped gospel yourself, and that no one can tell you a thing to boot, right, you know everything, no offense but for my part imo jd has some great insights, that even supercede your Mithraists imaginations, regardless her feelings on Melchizedek which i even understand right now.

do you only speak in Absolute Truths bro, or have you ever had an observation? Btw do you only Preach at Others from On High, or is it possible for us to have a conversation with Your Esteemed Presence?

jesus h already, what a wanker

if you dont shut your pie hole pretty soon ima report you for abuse, ok
you are not allowed to suggest that ppl who do not hold your religious views are lost, ok sir?

Jesus we have a genealogy for, right
What is quite noticeable is a profane person such as yourself all you could do is call names and we see you have no response to anything that was posted. Your main response is to call names and ridicule but you have no no biblical response why do you even come on a message board if you don't intend to respond biblically. Give it a try let's see this great wisdom that you possess and put it out there and let's examine what you
Offer.. pretty sure it's not going to be anything of substance based on your imbecilic posts
 
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therefore if what i eat causes a brother to stumble, id rather never eat meat again
he who says he knows, does not
declaring themselves wise, they became fools
commending themselves to each other
i know the wolves will rush in as soon as i leave, not sparing the flock
 

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Mike Waters said: "When I lived in Spain my part time work in a Christian friend's Art Gallery brought me into contact with a Mormon guy who turned out to be one of the most gentle and caring 'Christlike' guys that I have ever met."

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Yes, they come to you in sheep's clothing, Matthew 7:15. Note 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

Mike Waters said: "One day the 'darkened glass' will be no more, and we shall all "know even as we are known when we finally see Christ face to face"."

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Yes, yet even now we can know their "Christ" is not the Christ revealed in Scripture. Their "gospel" is not the Gospel of Scripture, they've supplanted and replaced that covenant (testament) with another covenant (testament) of "Jesus Christ." Their invented book of Mormon calls itself "another testament of Jesus Christ" yet there is no other. Note Galatians 1:8-10. That right there shows it is false, "another" "gospel."

Being nice, friendly isn't the acid test, it could mean false teacher. All cults come off this way. It's "Don't pay attention to our message, see how nice we are?" In fact @Jane_Doe22hides what she truly believes and outright denies the teachings when we link to their official teachings and document them. Note 2 Corinthians 4:2. True Gospel preaching does not hide their true beliefs. All Mormons hide what they truly teach, this is a well known fact. Search online for Jeff Durbin and witnessing to Mormons and you will see it first-hand.

Finally, compare their different "gospel" and their different "Christ" with Scripture. Theirs is a false gospel and false Christ, it is "another testament." No need for any professing believers to be gullible.
 

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so iow all copy/paste rerun that no one was buying the first time i guess
your Christ is Apollos right, but you can talk huh

Melchizedek,was Christ,will just leave it at that!
imo not exactly, but same order i guess ya
The name Melchizedek: Summary

Meaning
King Of Righteousness
Etymology
From (1) the noun מלך (melek), king, and (2) the verb צדק (sadeq), to be just.
Related names
 

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Many of Mormonism's men of a certain age and experience are priests in the
Church's order of Melchizedek.

According to the New Testament epistle to the Hebrews, the Melchizedek
priesthood is a high-priest priesthood. As such it is very exclusive; viz: it's
supposed to be occupied by only one man at a time; viz: a Melchizedek
priest is solo, i.e. he has no fellows.

Also: the position of a high priest is for life, i.e. he's not replaced until he
dies, which should never happen to a Melchizedek priest because according
to the New Testament letter to Hebrews, they're supposed to be immortal.
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The Melchisedek priesthood was typified for Jesus Christ alone(Hebrews 7).

Nobody else can claim this identity, especially not tithe teaching pastors.
 

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The Mormon teaching on the Mechizedek priesthood has absolutely NO BASIS in the Bible. Joseph Smith claimed that he received a revelation about this, therefore he laid out the following teaching in Doctrines & Covenants, Section 107. So this is a purely Mormon invention.

SECTION 107
Revelation on the priesthood, given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, about April 1835. Although this section was recorded in 1835, the historical records affirm that most of verses 60 through 100 incorporate a revelation given through Joseph Smith on November 11, 1831. This section was associated with the organization of the Quorum of the Twelve in February and March 1835. The Prophet likely delivered it in the presence of those who were preparing to depart May 3, 1835, on their first quorum mission...

1 There are, in the church, two priesthoods, namely, the Melchizedek and Aaronic, including the Levitical Priesthood.

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Only Jesus Christ Himself represents this particular priesthood.

There are 2 priesthoods, but not in the Church.

One priesthood(Melchisedek) is Jesus Christ himself as the single, sole High Priest of our profession, and the other is the O.T. priesthood, which we are not part of.
 

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The word "Antichrist" means instead of, replacement for, Christ. The entire priesthood of the Catholic church claims Mediatorial prerogatives that belong only to the true Christ who ministers in heaven as our High Priest. The only Mediator between God and man.
I admit to not knowing much about the Mormon priesthood. But if they claim any position that replaces Christ as sole Mediator, then the Mormon priesthood is replacing Christ, acting as a counterfeit, and is therefore Antichrist in nature.
Actual member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints here (nicknames "Mormon" or "LDS Christian")

Christ alone is the mediator between God and man. He alone is the Savior. We are saved through Him, each person individually accepting Him. No one else.

Priesthood in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints isn't like the Catholic Church. Rather, it's more of a formalize Priesthood of All Believers. Every man in the LDS Church is a priest, with ladies having their own callings. Every person works free of charge helping their fellows out on their individual walks with Christ.
 

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The Melchisedek priesthood was typified for Jesus Christ alone(Hebrews 7).

Nobody else can claim this identity, especially not tithe teaching pastors.
Point of clarification: LDS Christian priests (which is literally every man) earn $0 for their service.
 

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Point of clarification: LDS Christian priests (which is literally every man) earn $0 for their service.
A least that is a good thing.

But, the non LDS pastor teaches he is in the stead of Jesus(Melchisedek), and demands tithes of folks.

This is why they say "you are tithing to God".....because they are in the stead of Jesus for you.

Scam.
 

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A least that is a good thing.

But, the non LDS pastor teaches he is in the stead of Jesus(Melchisedek), and demands tithes of folks.

This is why they say "you are tithing to God".....because they are in the stead of Jesus for you.

Scam.
Count me in on the being pro-unpaid pastors camp 100% of the way.
 
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They’re in all churches Sissy. Personally, I don’t think they have a place in the local churches(if what I’ve read about them is true), but I don’t raise a ruckus over it. I hold my piece.

You hold your gun when they're around? :eek::D
 
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The first Melchizedek high priest presided on Earth in the book of Genesis.
That's changed. According to the New Testament's letter to Hebrews, the
Melchizedek high priest now presides in Heaven.

In point of fact, were Jesus on Earth he would not be a high priest at all
because the Earth is Aaron's jurisdiction; and to replace Aaron, Jesus would
have to descend from him because Aaron's high priesthood is obtained by
inheritance; whereas Melchizedek's is obtained by appointment.

Another fact worth knowing is that high priests in Aaron's order have to be
Jews, while the racial distinction of high priests in Melchizedek's order
doesn't matter because the original Melchizedek's race is unknown. But for
sure he wasn't a Jew because none existed in Abraham's day.
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FAQ: Doesn't the 110th Psalm imply that David was a priest after the order
of Melchizedek?


A: According to Matt 22:41-45, that Psalm speaks specifically of David's son
Christ rather than David himself; and within the Psalm, David refers to
Christ as his superior, which is very interesting because David is the
paterfamilias of the Davidic dynasty. As such, he outranks them all; yet in
Psalm 110 there's one among his royal posterity whom even David himself
must worship.

Phil 2:9-11 . .God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name
which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should
bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory
of God the Father. (cf. Dan 7:13-14)


FAQ: If what you are deriving from the letter Hebrews is true, then wouldn't
a Melchizedek priest not have a father or a mother?


A: True.

FAQ: Wouldn't that would rule out Christ?

A: It would.

The trick to this is that Christ is not only human, but also divine (John 1:1-14,
Hebrews 3:3-5). Were he only human, Christ would not qualify for
Melchizedek high priesthood as per the specifications in the letter to
Hebrews.
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FAQ: Doesn't the 110th Psalm imply that David was a priest after the order of Melchizedek?

A: According to Matt 22:41-45, that Psalm speaks specifically of David's son Christ rather than David himself; and within the Psalm, David refers to Christ as his superior, which is very interesting because David is the paterfamilias of the Davidic dynasty. As such, he outranks them all; yet in Psalm 110 there's one among his royal posterity whom even David himself must worship.

Phil 2:9-11 . .God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (cf. Dan 7:13-14)


FAQ: If what you are alluding from the letter to Hebrews is true, then wouldn't a Melchizedek priest
not have a father or a mother?


A: True.

FAQ: Wouldn't that would rule out Christ?

A: It would.

The trick to this is that Christ is not only human, but also divine (John 1:1-14, Hebrews 3:3-5). Were he only human, Christ would not qualify for Melchizedek high priesthood as per the specifications in the letter to Hebrews.
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Are you trying actually talk to anyone here?
 

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According to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, the covenant
that God instituted with Moses' people-- per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers,
and Deuteronomy --doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction, i.e. it isn't
retroactive.

That was a tremendous advantage for Abraham because he lived something
like 400 years before that covenant; viz: Abraham was exempt from the
covenant's rules, laws, and regulations; which means that he was at liberty
to break all ten of the Ten Commandments without fear of incurring the
covenant's curse prescribed by Deut 27:26, which reads:

"Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law by carrying
them out."

It was an advantage for Melchizedek too because the covenant designated
Aaron and his male posterity for the high priesthood; which of course
would've disqualified Melchizedek seeing as how he wasn't one of Aaron's
descendants.

Aaron's high priesthood can be legitimately called an "order" because a
succession of his male posterity inherited the office as each died in turn;
whereas technically Melchizedek's high priesthood isn't an order because his
priesthood isn't transferred via inheritance; which is no doubt why his
genealogy isn't recorded in the Bible.

Anyway, what I'm getting at here is that the constituents of Aaron's high
priesthood are always in grave danger of the curse prescribed by Deut
27:26, whereas the constituents of Melchizedek's high priesthood aren't. So
then, were people to be given an option between those two high
priesthoods, obviously the sensible choice would be Melchizedek's because
his offers the greatest degree of safety; and also the best access to God
seeing as how Jesus Christ is seated at God's right hand, practically rubbing
shoulders with Him. (Acts 2:33, Eph 1:20, Heb 8:1, Rev 3:21)
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Jesus Christ today is a high priest patterned after a high priest in the Old
Testament named Melchizedek (Ps 110:1-4, Heb 5:1-7:28). In order for him
to be effective, one of the qualifications of a high priest is that they have to
be able to relate to their constituents. So; in order for Jesus to satisfy that
requirement, he had to be a genuine h.sapiens; which entails having a
genuine h.sapiens' body.

Heb 2:13-18 . . Here am I, and the children God has given me.

. . . Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity
so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death
that is, the devil-- and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by
their fear of death. For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's
descendants.

. . . For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in
order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to
God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because
he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are
being tempted.

Christ lived on this earth for about 30 years prior to his public appearances;
and during those years, he did not lead a sheltered life; in point of fact, he
underwent a sort of boot camp.

Heb 5:7-9 . . During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers
and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from
death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he
was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made
perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.

The Greek word translate "source" refers to that which is causative, i.e. a
motive force that gets the ball rolling and makes thing happen, so to speak.

It's a piece of cake for the Word of John 1:1 to comply with God's wishes
because the Word himself is God too. But when the Word took on the nature
of a human being; that's when he found out just how difficult it is for flesh
and blood to comply with God's wishes; hence the prayers and loud cries
and tears. But his experiences as a human being forged him into the kind of
high priest that God deems suitable to hold the office.

Heb 2:10 . . For it became Him, for whom are all things, and by whom are
all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their
salvation perfect through sufferings.

Heb 4:15-16 . . We do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize
with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way,
just as we are—yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of
grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help
us in our time of need.

The Greek words for "confidence" indicate that when speaking to Christ, it's
okay to just be yourself; viz: to be out-spoken, i.e. frank and candid: which
has been made possible by a priesthood in Heaven chaired by a fellow man
who lived down here on the Earth as an h.sapiens long enough to know what
it's like to be one.
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The primary purpose of a high priest is to reconcile God and Man, i.e. a
mediator. No ordinary high priest can do that because he himself is likely in
need of reconciliation.

Heb 5:1-3 . . Every high priest is selected from among men and is
appointed to represent them in matters related to God, to offer gifts and
sacrifices for sins. He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and
are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness. This is why he has
to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people.

The representation available to people via an ordinary man is limited. Take
for example Aaron; the Jews' high priest. Though he was the holiest man in
the whole land, he was permitted to approach the presence of God only one
day out of the entire year, and even then for a limited amount of time. He
was not allowed to remain in the presence of God and spend some time
discussing the personal needs and concerns of each and every one of his
constituents on an individual basis, and that's because Aaron was just as
much a sinner as they; in point of fact maybe even more so.

At times the high priest's constituents could plead ignorance as an excuse
for their sins, but not him. Aaron was supposed to know God's feelings about
things well enough to teach them (Mal 2:7) so at least some of Aaron's
disobedience was in the full knowledge that it was wrong. Those kinds of
sins are called "willful" and according to Num 15:30-31 willful sins are
unpardonable and offenders are supposed to be banned from Temple
services.

The ideal mediator is someone that's 100% innocent in thought, word, and
deed because then they can remain in the presence of God permanently and
spend as much time as necessary discussing their constituents' needs and
concerns.

Heb 7:26-28 . . Such a high priest meets our need-- one who is holy,
blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. Unlike
the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day,
first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for
their sins once for all when he offered himself. For the law appoints as high
priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law,
appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

Heb 10:11-12 . . Day after day every priest stands and performs his
religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can
never take away sins. But when this priest had offered for all time one
sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God.
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