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Ronald Nolette

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The church is Catholic: (universal)
The church is Apostolic:


Yes the church is universal.

Yes the church is apostolic. True believers follow Scripture only and not the decrees of men that contradict Scripture.

The church is Holy:

Yes the people of God is holy because Jesus made her holy!
But not every priest is holy or even saved. neither pastors. Being a member of a sect of Christendom is no guarentee one is saved.

The church is One:

Yes the church is one. We are unified not puppets. Teh true churches unity is not based on going to th esame sect or even agreeing with every point of Scripture! The churches true unity comes from the believers are born agqain and have the Spirit of God.

People can be in unity though they may have disagreements. You need to stop thinking in denominational terms and start thinking in individual terms.

God does not recognize any denomination- just those washed in teh blood of Jesus!
 
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so pedaphilia is holy to you?
homosexuality among priests?
Popes that were drunks?
Popes who slaughtered innocents?

Not one of your verses speak of a specific denomination but a body! The church is a living organism.

really? We’re talking doctrine here!

the church is holy and founded by Christ and prepared by Christ

members are human and sinners

the church does not teach these things
 

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really? We’re talking doctrine here!

the church is holy and founded by Christ and prepared by Christ

members are human and sinners

the church does not teach these things

No but it has tolerated it for centuries. and we are talking the romanist sect.
The church is people and not a denomination. It is holy because teh one true church is made up of all saved people in all sects. Their infallible doctrine is the Bible!

Yes members are human and sinners- who are saved by grace through faith apart from works.
 
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Yes the church is universal.

Yes the church is apostolic. True believers follow Scripture only and not the decrees of men that contradict Scripture.



Yes the people of God is holy because Jesus made her holy!
But not every priest is holy or even saved. neither pastors. Being a member of a sect of Christendom is no guarentee one is saved.



Yes the church is one. We are unified not puppets. Teh true churches unity is not based on going to th esame sect or even agreeing with every point of Scripture! The churches true unity comes from the believers are born agqain and have the Spirit of God.

People can be in unity though they may have disagreements. You need to stop thinking in denominational terms and start thinking in individual terms.

God does not recognize any denomination- just those washed in teh blood of Jesus!

Very good post, but you need to use your spell checker (spelling, not witchcraft).
 

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No but it has tolerated it for centuries. and we are talking the romanist sect.
The church is people and not a denomination. It is holy because teh one true church is made up of all saved people in all sects. Their infallible doctrine is the Bible!

Yes members are human and sinners- who are saved by grace through faith apart from works.

the church is holy cos it’s founder is God!
Prepared by God as a bride

and cos it is capable of sanctification of souls by the sacraments
 

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the church is holy cos it’s founder is God!
Prepared by God as a bride

and cos it is capable of sanctification of souls by the sacraments
Right and wrong.

Yes the church is holy because we have been given the righteousness of Jesus on individual bases.

The sacraments do not sanctify anything!

God directly sanctifies His people.

Once again the church is individuals and not a sect.
 
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Right and wrong.

Yes the church is holy because we have been given the righteousness of Jesus on individual bases.

The sacraments do not sanctify anything!

God directly sanctifies His people.

Once again the church is individuals and not a sect.

so we totally disagree!

How is it to be resolved!

who do we appeal too?

“the Bible alone” obviously don’t work!

how do we find the truth!

Jn 8:32 you shall know the truth!
 

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Jesus is the truth! The word is the only arbiter of truth versus error!

really what about the apostles like Jesus and the scripture say? Lk 10:16

Jesus is the truth Jn 14:6 Jesus and His church are one! Act 9:4 eph 4:5 do we must hear the church Matt 18:17 which is the pillar and ground of truth!
1 Tim 3:15
 

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really what about the apostles like Jesus and the scripture say? Lk 10:16

Jesus is the truth Jn 14:6 Jesus and His church are one! Act 9:4 eph 4:5 do we must hear the church Matt 18:17 which is the pillar and ground of truth!
1 Tim 3:15
But what or rather, who is the Church?

"Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:" Col 1:24

"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular." I Cor 12:27

 
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really what about the apostles like Jesus and the scripture say? Lk 10:16

Jesus is the truth Jn 14:6 Jesus and His church are one! Act 9:4 eph 4:5 do we must hear the church Matt 18:17 which is the pillar and ground of truth!
1 Tim 3:15

And it is not a denomination.
 

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no it’s the new covenant!

Jn 10:16

No for that as written in Jer. 31 has not gone into effect.

The church is a living organism made up of believers in all sects who meet in groups we call churches and in buildings called churches.

Catholic, Protestant, episcopalian, Baptist are all man made constructs god does not recognize as the church. He sees individuals and not sects.
 

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No for that as written in Jer. 31 has not gone into effect.

The church is a living organism made up of believers in all sects who meet in groups we call churches and in buildings called churches.

Catholic, Protestant, episcopalian, Baptist are all man made constructs god does not recognize as the church. He sees individuals and not sects.

nope never
Believers are not even Christian
Faith and baptism are required to be Christian

christ alone has authority to found a church!

why did Christ found the church?
 

Ronald Nolette

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nope never
Believers are not even Christian
Faith and baptism are required to be Christian

christ alone has authority to found a church!

why did Christ found the church?

Spirit Baptism, not water baptism. Water Baptism is for some who is a believer which means they are already saved! Learn you rbible.

Yes Jesus established the church and it wasn't the Roman church.
 

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Spirit Baptism, not water baptism. Water Baptism is for some who is a believer which means they are already saved! Learn you rbible.

Yes Jesus established the church and it wasn't the Roman church.

then baptism is meaningless!
 

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Spirit Baptism, not water baptism. Water Baptism is for some who is a believer which means they are already saved! Learn you rbible.

Yes Jesus established the church and it wasn't the Roman church.

Is spirit baptism a sacrament?
 

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Spirit Baptism, not water baptism. Water Baptism is for some who is a believer which means they are already saved! Learn you rbible.

Yes Jesus established the church and it wasn't the Roman church.

only one church Jn 10:16
The one that conquered the pagan Roman Empire Dan 2:44