Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism

[April_Rose]

I'm going to bed in a few minutes, but since I only have a slim idea of what these two things are about and how they're bad for America,.. I don't really know much about them and I figured it would be a good topic of conversation to have for others who are the same.

 

[Amazed@grace]

This may help start the conversation.

The Surprising Roots of Fascism

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The Anti-Christ mob want to create a substandard people and make out that they are empowering them 24/7 but once their plans takes root then the people find that they have been duped. All such has to do with deceptions and lies. all just smoke and mirrors.

The Anti-Christ be they whatever political type will always want to enslave people under them and work to undermine freedom of speech, that is the top priority ! the Key to undermining freedom of speech is always Political Correctness, as without such a tool the Nazis and the Communist would never of taken root over the People. that's is the Key foundation of Socialist.
The fact is that such Governments want to own the People and make you their Cattle, you are just a number to such Governments, they own you ! They tell you how to think and education to them is in fact only indoctrination.
Jesus Christ said that you would know them by their works ! yep do the detective work and you will find the trail of lies and deceptions sticks out clearly.

If one has a handle on how Hitler got the Germans to dance to this cunning Hungarian so called Zionist bastard Jew, you would understand how the game play works. They sow the seeds years before hand and being in bed with the Media, owning the Media they can run loose free to bastardise all. fact is that all such Anti-Christ use Malice as a weapon against all who speak up against them.

The Main problem with the majority of People is that they do not understand the foundations of the workings of such Devils. such is all their in front of your face, if you have a true handle on History and the Hell such that they have caused through out.
They work to bastardise all thus breeding trash people that lack Virtue and create just pathetic grubs who love the darkness.
They work to undermine a Nations Family's values on ever level you can think of.
They have always worked to Kill Children by the millions to their gods Moloch etc and then such as they no wonder will start on you with some BS that they claim is a Vaccine ! they are serving their gods that they truly idolise. A Christian never idolises anyone or a thing, period ! why do people idolise pop stars etc, because they are fools in fact. If you have ever had people idolise you, then you will know first hand what a dolt that they are, oh you have another fickle delusional admirer .

 

[Enoch111]

This may help start the conversation. The Surprising Roots of Fascism

People today need to understand that Marxism/Communism/Leninism/ Socialism/Liberalism/Progressivism/Wokeism and Fascism/Nazism are two sides of the same coin -- TOTALITARIANISM.

Bernie Sanders is a good example. He is a diehard Communist, but was careful to label himself as a Socialist, and even ran as a Democrat (with no one objecting to this deception). He should have been actually running as a candidate for the Communist Party USA.


Now Bernie -- a Jew -- is rooting for the Palestinians against Israel. And there are many anti-Israel Jews in the USA, because they are in fact Communists. Strangely enough the leading Communists in the Soviet Union were Jews, just like many leading Nazis were also Jews. George Soros -- a Hungarian Jew -- was a Nazi and is now a leading Communist/Anarchist.

Liberals have always deluded themselves that they are working for social justice, when in fact they are working for Totalitarianism. Therefore they will not tolerate dissent and must censor free speech. Take a close look at all the social media.

In plain English Totalitarianism is the enslavement of the masses by a cabal of elites (or just one megalomaniac). And now Totalitarianism has come to North America and Europe through COVID Tyranny (and may never be removed). You can also add Anarchism to that since BLM and Antifa have been allowed to destroy cities without a finger being lifted against them. In fact a BLM activist received $70,000 from media networks to enter the Capitol on January 6 and add to the confusion.

One would have thought that the German people had learned their lessons under the totalitarianism of Hitler, who destroyed Germany. But Angela Merkel is a successor to Adolf Hitler, and has also systematically destroyed Germany while the people have stood by. Now COVID Tyranny has been established there, and hardly anyone has protested.

Who is it that wants humanity enslaved and then damned to Hell? Satan, who has worked to enslave people throughout history. However, people in free countries are going into voluntary slavery because they refuse to question the shenanigans of those in authority.

 

[mailmandan]

I've heard that democracies eventually degenerate into totalitarianism and America seems to be heading in that direction.

 

[DPMartin]

I'm going to bed in a few minutes, but since I only have a slim idea of what these two things are about and how they're bad for America,.. I don't really know much about them and I figured it would be a good topic of conversation to have for others who are the same.

read about Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin also Mao Zedong also known as Chairman Mao. the Russian communists shut down all churches and walked the path of atheists, the Chinese under Mao did the same with the belief that religion is evil and there is no God. its the choice of atheists when they come into power you see American socialists doing the same. (FYI: the USSR used to stand for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics we know was a communists nation).

they killed more of their own then Hitler killed.

so yea its bad for American freedom, you should note the inroads into the Americans they've made the lib's always know what's good for you and are insistent in desecrating what institutions they can, such as the concept of what a marriage ought to be. or cal gov stating there will be no gasoline engines in cal in 2023 or something to that effect. also there's no respect of private property such as they tell you what you can and can't do with what's yours. hence in reality its not really yours. they have done the same to the family where as now the man is an idiot if he has a family. watch cartoons or sitcoms constantly teaching those who can't afford cable or satellite tv have to watch.

the lib's really went power wild when covid came and now they serve the china powers that be by making Asians out to be victims redirecting the public eye, whereas the corvid was a biological attack to shut down our free economy of which the lib's insisted everyone should stop working and did manage to shut it down in the name of what's good for you.

but its all theory.

 

[April_Rose]

This may help start the conversation.

The Surprising Roots of Fascism

Looks like it's a bit complicated for me to read and understand. I'm mentally challenged so that's why I'm asking this question and so far I don't really understand any of the responses.

 

[Wrangler]

Socialism and Marxism are variants of communism. Marxism seeks to advance communist principles (abolishing private propety) using identity politics consisting of an "oppressor" group and an "oppressed" group. Communism is evil for 3 basic reasons:

1. Goes Against Justice (equity - those who produce more should benefit more - not equality, not equal benefit regardless of productivity).
2. Goes Against the Law of Supply & Demand (Explains why Communist countries always have material shortages)
3. Goes Against Human Nature (people strive to better their individual or private situation not collective 'equality')

Taking away the profit incentive undermines productivity. Words like "equality" and "selfish" changes nothing in reality.

 

[Amazed@grace]

People today need to understand that Marxism/Communism/Leninism/ Socialism/Liberalism/Progressivism/Wokeism and Fascism/Nazism are two sides of the same coin -- TOTALITARIANISM.

Bernie Sanders is a good example. He is a diehard Communist, but was careful to label himself as a Socialist, and even ran as a Democrat (with no one objecting to this deception). He should have been actually running as a candidate for the Communist Party USA.
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Now Bernie -- a Jew -- is rooting for the Palestinians against Israel. And there are many anti-Israel Jews in the USA, because they are in fact Communists. Strangely enough the leading Communists in the Soviet Union were Jews, just like many leading Nazis were also Jews. George Soros -- a Hungarian Jew -- was a Nazi and is now a leading Communist/Anarchist.

Liberals have always deluded themselves that they are working for social justice, when in fact they are working for Totalitarianism. Therefore they will not tolerate dissent and must censor free speech. Take a close look at all the social media.

In plain English Totalitarianism is the enslavement of the masses by a cabal of elites (or just one megalomaniac). And now Totalitarianism has come to North America and Europe through COVID Tyranny (and may never be removed). You can also add Anarchism to that since BLM and Antifa have been allowed to destroy cities without a finger being lifted against them. In fact a BLM activist received $70,000 from media networks to enter the Capitol on January 6 and add to the confusion.

One would have thought that the German people had learned their lessons under the totalitarianism of Hitler, who destroyed Germany. But Angela Merkel is a successor to Adolf Hitler, and has also systematically destroyed Germany while the people have stood by. Now COVID Tyranny has been established there, and hardly anyone has protested.

Who is it that wants humanity enslaved and then damned to Hell? Satan, who has worked to enslave people throughout history. However, people in free countries are going into voluntary slavery because they refuse to question the shenanigans of those in authority.

We got a taste of Authoritarianism during the lockdown.
Threatened by law to stay in our homes?

Unless we were deemed, "essential workers"?

I think this whole virus threat is purposed to guage how compliant we will be to a Totalitarian authority take over.

At the start of the lockdown there were alerts saying people in different states weren't allowed to cross their state borders.

Out of state plates garnered police action.

Now we have the next phase coming. Starting in Washington State. Covid vaccine passports. Which Mr.Biden talked about as soon as he illegally occupied the White House.

Think about WW2 and people needing papers to travel when in Nazi occupied territories.
Think about the yellow star, the pink triangle, and other ID patches required on ones person to ID them on sight to authorities.

In Washington State their dictator style governor has mandated, through health entities in the state, people who have received the Covid-19 "vaccine" are to have a marker or sticker visible on employee ID's. So that on sight those people are deemed "safe", because they got the shot.

I read this in an email a friend forwarded. Covid-19 was intended to translate later, with the advent of the "vaccine", that was already set to be released into the public domain before the Covid-19 scare and lockdown was initiated, into a global system of controls. Covid-19 would then become the 21st century version of the Nazi's "papers". Covid-19 = Certificate of "vaccination" ID.

No ID, no travel, no work, no shopping. All activities and access points for survival that have always been under government control.

 

[Mantis]

What is sad is our children have been indoctrinated into this. They think it’s a better way than capitalism because the teachers don’t tell them that it has never worked. They don’t tell them about the millions of people murdered by fascist dictators. They don’t tell them that the government that gives you everything will also take everything from you. They push this anti American pro communist agenda. I don’t understand how people can be this stupid. Not the kids but the teachers that push this stuff. I mean we have fought wars to stop communism. They ignore history and are tunnel visioned on a false communist utopia that will never happen.

 

[JohnDB]

I've heard that democracies eventually degenerate into totalitarianism and America seems to be heading in that direction.

Well...a modern day look at the UK would be a good case study. They have been a democracy for a long time.
Germany used to be a democracy for the longest time until they got "smart" and decided to become a marxist state. Now they are a democracy again and want nothing to do with Marxism. The Swiss are still a democracy and one of the first. All of that area was heavily influenced by the Calvinists from Geneva. (The origins of modern democracy) France...well they killed their kings...wasn't anybody else wanting the job after that. Spain was the last of the kingdoms of the Old Roman Empire from when the Church ruled the World. Don't look at them to provide support.

The first democracy the world ever seen was actually the Roman Empire of Biblical times. Senators were elected. And if the Caesar invited them to commit suicide...well it was time to elect a new Senator.

Israel's Sanhidrin was a council that was a republic...and not a democracy...no one voted except the wealthy elite of a district who agreed as to who they were going to send.

 

[Taodeching]

I'm going to bed in a few minutes, but since I only have a slim idea of what these two things are about and how they're bad for America,.. I don't really know much about them and I figured it would be a good topic of conversation to have for others who are the same.

I attempted to find an easy explanation for Socialism, I hope this is okay with you.

Socialism is a way to organize a society. It deals mostly with the economy, or the part of a society that creates wealth. The goal of socialism is to spread wealth more evenly and to treat all people fairly.

Source

More resources Examples of Socialism

and Marxism:

To define Marxism in simple terms, it’s a political and economic theory where a society has no classes. Every person within the society works for a common good, and class struggle is theoretically gone.

Source

 

[Enoch111]

Socialism is a way to organize a society. It deals mostly with the economy, or the part of a society that creates wealth. The goal of socialism is to spread wealth more evenly and to treat all people fairly.

This is SOCIALISTIC BALONEY. Were people ever treated fairly by any Communist dictatorship?

 

[Enoch111]

I've heard that democracies eventually degenerate into totalitarianism and America seems to be heading in that direction.

Democracies are not designed for evildoers and criminals running the country. The problem is that the criminals were never tried and prosecuted for high crimes and misdemeanors.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I attempted to find an easy explanation for Socialism, I hope this is okay with you.

Socialism is a way to organize a society. It deals mostly with the economy, or the part of a society that creates wealth. The goal of socialism is to spread wealth more evenly and to treat all people fairly.

Source

More resources Examples of Socialism

and Marxism:

To define Marxism in simple terms, it’s a political and economic theory where a society has no classes. Every person within the society works for a common good, and class struggle is theoretically gone.

Source

Sounds great ! but fact is it's not in reality.

Look Hitler was a great bloke too but but but ? now all that he was doing caught the majority out as if he was the fantastic, they idolised the shyster ! just like the idiots who idolised Stalin and just look at all Communist leaders become like gods to the majority of the dupes in fact, just look at North Korea they all idolise that .

Brainwashing tactics is what all Satanist use and it's a powerful drug that deludes people to follow along with anything that their idol says, Hitler was looked up to mainly due to the hell that the depression created and as Hitler come to power, he was given credit for turning Germany around from an abyss of 200% inflation, caused by the cunning of the powers that be who created that in fact. not to mention that the powers as such were setting up to get Hitler to control the Plan. not to mention who all financed such ? the so called Zionist Jews and old mate Rothschild in fact who created them.
Everything in general was planed years in advance, it's another type of warfare that most have no idea of such tactics, as they set everything all up before hand.
Hitler did not get into power the way that most think at all, he was given it all on a silver plate. there was no way that anyone could of got into such power, unless the real powers that run this world wanted him to.
Just because Hitler said X, Y, Z does not mean that he believes such things at all, and not one Political Leader says such at all, as such is all about playing the Game for their masters.
W Churchill said what WW2 was all about in 1965, he said, They ? wanted to win Markets ! WC said we could of won the war without firing a shot ? but, They ? meaning Rothschild's and his Banking buddy's wanted to win Markets.
Lord Rothschild's followed WC around on a leash during WW2.
Lord Rothschild once openly threatened the UK Monarch, stating that he cared not of their power ? now reading between the lines of the rest he said, stated that he was much powerful then them in fact and that he had the power that could destroy the UK in fact. just as he destroyed Russia Poland, Germany etc etc and put Satanic trash in power dominating over the people.

Where is the Key power in all Godless political Party's ? Jesus said I am not of this world ! that's the Key problem, they are not born again. Jesus said such were of their father of lies and was a Murderer from the beginning. you will know them by their works !

Socialism, stands for dupes !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

This is SOCIALISTIC BALONEY. Were people ever treated fairly by any Communist dictatorship?

The old carrot trick to get them to be taken in by any such sweetness and once set solidly in power look out ! then comes their real agenda, my Communist mate said that they will kill everyone, all the trash people first that will be the peoples will due to them having had a gut full of such people and their so called rights ? that's what he says, but then comes the rest that he does not understand or believe will happen. he thinks that Communism is the peoples power ! fact is it's not peoples power at all, it's a dictatorship ! and dictators have to kill all who they may see that could be a threat to their power base.
Old mate has never truly talked to people who have been under such oppression so as to truly listen, he just has faith that such got it all wrong some how and that it's going to be different nowadays. I said no it wont ! for one such people like him are ignorant of reality and just are floating along with blind faith.
Fact is that people nowadays are more deranged than ever in history, the lack of regard for Christ Jesus is astounding for a start, let alone Drugs etc etc people that are about, not to mention such people are being encourage and empowered by the system to be such idiots.
Not to mention what is it with all the video games and crap killing shooting shows like such on TV that we are bombarded with, I despise such rubbish I don't watch such rubbish. I knew a few people in the 80's that that sort of rubbish messes with their mind because they were not the full quid in the first place. but what is such doing now over the years.
I seen the Grinch that stole Christmas, stoped and said "Kids these days are so desensitized" that is such a great show that points out so much truth.

 

[Taodeching]

Sounds great ! but fact is it's not in reality.

I was finding a definition that was easy, very easy to understand. @April_Rose wanted easy not an essay for a college students as she explained in post 7 here Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism so stick our essay in your ear. Next time you people need to read

 

[April_Rose]

I was finding a definition that was easy, very easy to understand. @April_Rose wanted easy not an essay for a college students as she explained in post 7 here Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism so stick our essay in your ear. Next time you people need to read

Aww,.. thank you for standing up for me.

 

[dev553344]

Great answers guys, truly superb. To add to that Capito-socio-ism is when I get elected President and demand fair treatment of disabled and homeless but leave the incentives to accel in the business sector. JK,LOL.

 

[dev553344]

And this is the artist rendition of what I will look like as your president: