(Alanforchrist;38425)
There is no such thing as "Limited atonement". When Jesus said, "Those who you gave me" is refering to Everyone who will believe on Jesus and receive the atonment. Then God gives them to Jesus.The "Election in Romans 9, Is talking about God chosing to bring his covenant in through the seed of Abraham, being Isaac, Galatians 3; 16, & 29.God chose a body, which consist of everyone who will believe in Christ. It is the body of Christ that was chosen, not the indervidual.God is no respecter of people, and to be a respecter of people is sin, If God choses one and not the other that maks Him a sinner. God wants everyone saved.1 Timothy 2:1--6, 1 John 2: 1--2.If anyone had the love of God burning in your soul for one second they will never say that choses one to salvation and reject someone else.John 3: 16-17,For God SO [An intense love] the world that he gave His only Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life, for God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him [might] be saved.Notice the word [Might], Under the election teaching those who God choses will be saved and never lose their salvation. Yet this scripture alone ends that idea. "The world through Him [MIGHT] be saved.it didn't say they will be, it said, "They might be" the choice is ours.Also Matthew 25: 1--13 says some will not make it, Did God make the wrong choice, or did they have free will. It is for "the whosoever will " not the whosever God choses.
Hi Alan,Ephesians 2:1-10, "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air . . . " and down to verse 5, "even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ -- by grace you have been saved -- ' You can read the rest down to verse 10.How can dead men choose?We did not choose Christ at all. That is unbiblical. God chose us!waynemlj
There is no such thing as "Limited atonement". When Jesus said, "Those who you gave me" is refering to Everyone who will believe on Jesus and receive the atonment. Then God gives them to Jesus.The "Election in Romans 9, Is talking about God chosing to bring his covenant in through the seed of Abraham, being Isaac, Galatians 3; 16, & 29.God chose a body, which consist of everyone who will believe in Christ. It is the body of Christ that was chosen, not the indervidual.God is no respecter of people, and to be a respecter of people is sin, If God choses one and not the other that maks Him a sinner. God wants everyone saved.1 Timothy 2:1--6, 1 John 2: 1--2.If anyone had the love of God burning in your soul for one second they will never say that choses one to salvation and reject someone else.John 3: 16-17,For God SO [An intense love] the world that he gave His only Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life, for God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him [might] be saved.Notice the word [Might], Under the election teaching those who God choses will be saved and never lose their salvation. Yet this scripture alone ends that idea. "The world through Him [MIGHT] be saved.it didn't say they will be, it said, "They might be" the choice is ours.Also Matthew 25: 1--13 says some will not make it, Did God make the wrong choice, or did they have free will. It is for "the whosoever will " not the whosever God choses.
Hi Alan,Ephesians 2:1-10, "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air . . . " and down to verse 5, "even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ -- by grace you have been saved -- ' You can read the rest down to verse 10.How can dead men choose?We did not choose Christ at all. That is unbiblical. God chose us!waynemlj