Limited atonement !

[amigo de christo]

Thanks!

I'm a Fundamentalist. The Atonement has to be Limited by SOMETHING. It's 'why' we say it is Limited, that bothers people...

When people say the Atonement is Limited, but the Gospel Promise is not Limited; we really shouldn't have much of a problem with each other...

and yet did you know that even those who say this truth
THEMSELVES are arleady DENYING the one true CHRIST .
IT SEEMS interfaith has made inroads INTO ALL camps . something we had better not even touch sniff
or even taste of that cup . that is one ANTI CHRIST false peace message it has brought .
Dont you find it rather odd
that a large chunk of christendom has forgotten
THAT JESUS NEVER DID COME to bring peace on earth but rather DIVISION .
DONT ya find it rather odd that through false interfaith , THIS so called DIVISION has been removed
FOR sake of UNFICATION .
DOnt ya find it rather odd that also while JESUS made it very clear HE DID NOT come to bring peace on earth ,
ANOTHER ONE SURE DOES . and it aint GOD either . ITS ANTI CHRIST and woe wail
for interfaith has led them and is leading them all RIGHT TO THE LIE .
by promise of peace n safety for the world .
AND guess what else , You ever wonder WHY paul said FOR WHEN THEY SHALL say peace n safety
SUDDEN destruction cometh upon them all . WELL LOOK at how they are trying to attain it , THEY DENY JESUS THE CHRIST .
This is not about to bode well at all for the billions entrapped in its snare . not at all .

 

[Rockerduck]

and yet did you know that even those who say this truth
THEMSELVES are arleady DENYING the one true CHRIST .
IT SEEMS interfaith has made inroads INTO ALL camps . something we had better not even touch sniff
or even taste of that cup . that is one ANTI CHRIST false peace message it has brought .
Dont you find it rather odd
that a large chunk of christendom has forgotten
THAT JESUS NEVER DID COME to bring peace on earth but rather DIVISION .
DONT ya find it rather odd that through false interfaith , THIS so called DIVISION has been removed
FOR sake of UNFICATION .
DOnt ya find it rather odd that also while JESUS made it very clear HE DID NOT come to bring peace on earth ,
ANOTHER ONE SURE DOES . and it aint GOD either . ITS ANTI CHRIST and woe wail
for interfaith has led them and is leading them all RIGHT TO THE LIE .
by promise of peace n safety for the world .
AND guess what else , You ever wonder WHY paul said FOR WHEN THEY SHALL say peace n safety
SUDDEN destruction cometh upon them all . WELL LOOK at how they are trying to attain it , THEY DENY JESUS THE CHRIST .
This is not about to bode well at all for the billions entrapped in its snare . not at all .

What has all you said have to do with being a fundamentalist? That is a conservative belief. A liberal belief is interfaith, God is love, etc.

 

[amigo de christo]

Did Christ die for every human being of mankind ? No, His Death was limited to them He died and reconciled unto God. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Eph 2:16

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross/or death, having slain the enmity thereby:

Now the word reconciled in Col 1:21 is the greek word apokatallassō:

1. to reconcile completely
2. to reconcile back again
3. bring back a former state of harmony

There is no such thing as Christ dying for people and they not be reconciled to God completely, which is nothing short of Salvation !

So His death is limited to the reconciled completely ! 18

Be ye reconciled TO GOD in CHRISTS stead .
HEY padnah , TO be reconciled ONE MUST BELIEVE IN HE WHO DOES RECONCILE US TO GOD , that BE JESUS THE CHRIST .
many sure like to twist scrips
But forget the very JESUS HIMSELF warned what was to come upon all who failed to believe on HIM
as did the apostels i might add .
AND if we bother to open and read the bible for ourselves
PEEK AT acts and see WHO they preached to BELIEVE ON and what they did to those who refused .
SHOOK dust off with warnings against them . SO , yeah i do suggest bible time again for us all . men have been fleecing
this generation more so than ever before . and beleive me there have been fleecers at work even since the days of paul
and before . BIBLE TIME padnahs , or continue to follow another jesus , but THAT ONE WONT be saving folks .

 

[amigo de christo]

What has all you said have to do with being a fundamentalist? That is a conservative belief. A liberal belief is interfaith, God is love, etc.

You just said more truth than you might have realized . YOU are spot on right
INTERFAITH is of THE PROGRESSIVE liberal camp .
SO WHY DO TRUMP , VANCE , Puala and the nar realm DO ITS BIDDING and push it unto the churches .
YOU ARE SO RIGHT my friend . ITS ALL OF THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE REALM .
I been warning you all for years . BOTH SIDES GOT INFILTRATED and work the lie in , in different ways my friend .
THANK YOU SO MUCH for saying that truth my friend . YOU SPOT ON RIGHT
the abraham peace accords , religious tolerance act , interfaith interreligious dialgoue
IS ALL OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE liberal minds
AND YET the evangelical realm HAS RUSHED RIGHT INTO it . YOU Get five golden stars FOR THAT TRUTH my friend .
SO NOW please hear me . Please . WE have got to abandon this interfaith finding common ground
this abraham peace accords stuff . TRUMP DIDNT INVENT IT , THEY LIBERAL LEFT DID .
that stuff was going on even before trump sat the throne . WILLL you all please hear me on this .
I am just trying to help us .

 

[amigo de christo]

What has all you said have to do with being a fundamentalist? That is a conservative belief. A liberal belief is interfaith, God is love, etc.

even marks put a like on what you said , BUT HE has no idea Trump vance , the entier evangelical realm
BEEN DOING ITS BIDDING TOO . my goodness when are folks gonna finally wake up .
THEY INFILTRATED EVERYTHING . EVERYTHING . we must flee this so called false unity
this so called interfaith for world peace crap .
WE must flee the judge not correct not stuff . WE MAKE OUR STAND NOW my friend
we must make our stand RIGHT NOW . its infiltrated and infiltrating EVERYTHING now .

 

[Hey You!]

and yet did you know that even those who say this truth
THEMSELVES are arleady DENYING the one true CHRIST .

Not me; how about you? The Gospel Promise is not Limited. The Atonement is Limited by the Census of the population of Believers; we agree...

Since you believe the same as Me, and you don't deny Christ; I don’t deny Christ either...

You agree, right?

 

[Marvelloustime]

and yet did you know that even those who say this truth
THEMSELVES are arleady DENYING the one true CHRIST .
IT SEEMS interfaith has made inroads INTO ALL camps . something we had better not even touch sniff
or even taste of that cup . that is one ANTI CHRIST false peace message it has brought .
Dont you find it rather odd
that a large chunk of christendom has forgotten
THAT JESUS NEVER DID COME to bring peace on earth but rather DIVISION .
DONT ya find it rather odd that through false interfaith , THIS so called DIVISION has been removed
FOR sake of UNFICATION .
DOnt ya find it rather odd that also while JESUS made it very clear HE DID NOT come to bring peace on earth ,
ANOTHER ONE SURE DOES . and it aint GOD either . ITS ANTI CHRIST and woe wail
for interfaith has led them and is leading them all RIGHT TO THE LIE .
by promise of peace n safety for the world .
AND guess what else , You ever wonder WHY paul said FOR WHEN THEY SHALL say peace n safety
SUDDEN destruction cometh upon them all . WELL LOOK at how they are trying to attain it , THEY DENY JESUS THE CHRIST .
This is not about to bode well at all for the billions entrapped in its snare . not at all .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Not me; how about you? The Gospel Promise is not Limited. The Atonement is Limited by the Census of the population of Believers; we agree...

Since you believe the same as Me, and you don't deny Christ; I don’t deny Christ either...

You agree, right?

any who is a supporter , co helper to any part of interfaith is but a helper and co helper to that which is of anti christ .
SO i sure hope we dont have anyone here who supports any church leader or any person who has been pushing that stuff in on us .
ITS gonna mean a total break from the abraham peace accords , religious tolerance , interfaith finding common ground .
IN fact not just a total break from it but a massive uptick in warning against it .
SO if you agree with that , WE DO agree. YOUR RIGHT CHRIST IS NOT TO BE DENIED . so lets not be co helpers
for any who promote that interfaith anti christ mess . JESUS HAS BEEN DENIED by the lips of its leaders
Their so called interreligious dialgoue , THEIR so called goal of this is how we can win them to GOD ,
ITS ALL A DARN FAT LIE . i watched them agents of satan . I watched them anti christs
on stage telling the false religions we all worship the same GOD in different ways . YEAH , JESUS GOT DENIED DUDE
so we sure dont want any part of that now do we . nope .

 

[brightfame52]

Here is another chance for you to explain the theology you have on how does one limit a death?

Ive been explaining my Theology, you dont and cant understand it

 

[brightfame52]

@amigo de christo

Be ye reconciled TO GOD in CHRISTS stead .

Thats directed towards the already reconciled. Not all mankind

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo



Thats directed towards the already reconciled. Not all mankind

The only ones reconciled are those who BELIEVE IN HE who is the ONLY ONE WHO CAN RECONCILE .
WHY do you think paul called it the gospel of reconcilation . PREACH JESUS .
And never preach once , not even once unviersalim inclusivism . I shudder in terror for those who go about that business.
Rather preach the ONLY NAME of the ONLY ONE who can save , BELIEVE YE ON CHRIST JESUS .

 

[brightfame52]

The only ones reconciled are those who BELIEVE IN HE who is the ONLY ONE WHO CAN RECONCILE .
WHY do you think paul called it the gospel of reconcilation . PREACH JESUS .
And never preach once , not even once unviersalim inclusivism . I shudder in terror for those who go about that business.
Rather preach the ONLY NAME of the ONLY ONE who can save , BELIEVE YE ON CHRIST JESUS .

The ones who are reconciled are the ones Christ died for. How were they reconciled to God according to Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

 

[Hey You!]

SO if you agree with that , WE DO agree. YOUR RIGHT CHRIST IS NOT TO BE DENIED . so lets not be co helpers

There's only one Christ; a Christ who knows the Atonement is Limited. You know the same thing that Jesus knows, right? That the Atonement is somehow Limited...

 

[amigo de christo]

There's only one Christ; a Christ who knows the Atonement is Limited. You know the same thing that Jesus knows, right? That the Atonement is somehow Limited...

Well it sure aint limited to those who beleive . Its those who believe not who receive not the atonement .
Which i know darn well includes all them false religoins
and sadly a mess of folks even within christendom now have fallen for the lie
the lie . the lie of the dark one and that which has come of anti christ . any guesses on that the lie is .
NO lie is of the TRUTH .
WHO is a liar , HE who DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
but interfaith and its mess of christendom sure seem to be saying , OH ITS OKAY if they deny HIM as CHRIST .
ITs okay if one believes not . TALK about a delusion my friend .
AND as i wrote to you earlier , ITS IN ALL camps now my friend . ALL camps .
Not all have bought it , but its within the denominations now and it came of the MOTHER HARLOT
and her cry of ecumincalism . WE BEEN DUPED bad buddy . REAL bad .
SO my advice is this
RATHER than TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND with darkness , with false religoins
LET us realize what communion has LIGHT with darkness . NONE .
rather then LET US PREACH JESUS TO THE LOST ones . cause we aint nothing in common with the lost .
WE HAVE JESUS , THEY DO NOT . its about as simple as that . INTERFAITH IS of anti christ
and i have not shunned to warn us that it is either . WE have got to get busy learning the bible again for ourselves
and preaching THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS . and make sure its not a jesus we beleive in
BUT THE JESUS , HIS WORDS we believe and trust .

 

[amigo de christo]

There's only one Christ; a Christ who knows the Atonement is Limited. You know the same thing that Jesus knows, right? That the Atonement is somehow Limited...

Oh the atonement is limited all right to receive one must beleive in the great reconciler of our souls .
No faith in JESUS , means naught but the second death .
There will be no peace unto the wicked . the only way to have peace with GOD , BELIEVE YE IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND ,
CHRIST JESUS . now onward in the trenches
for a godlen bull of great deceptoin has been made and created and many call it the inclusive love god of interfaith .
THEY dance to its song of love but have no idea
WHEN THE REAL JESUS SHOWS up its TO THE WRATH THEY GO .

 

[Hey You!]

Oh the atonement is limited all right to receive one must beleive in the great reconciler of our souls .
No faith in JESUS , means naught but the second death .
There will be no peace unto the wicked . the only way to have peace with GOD , BELIEVE YE IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND ,
CHRIST JESUS .

Amen...

What definition of Limited Atonement is Hersey, and why?

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen...

What definition of Limited Atonement is Hersey, and why?

i honestly dont know what it teaches .
ALL i know is IF we want souls saved , PREACH JESUS . who so ever hears amen
who so ever rejects , Damanation ONLY awaits them .
I Dont bother myself with things too high , i preach rather the simple truth .
AND I KNOW WHO SAVES and by that same grace I KNOW HOW One can be saved .
ITS JESUS . its that simple . what must i do to be saved , WELL BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
And by all means get them believers INTO the bible for themselves to learn for themselves .
TOO many men through their own doctrines have made things way to complicated and far too confusing .
ITS simple really . I KNOW WHO SAVES and I KNOW By grace WHO TO PREACH and remind all
to BELIEVE IN TO BE SAVED . ITS AGAIN JESUS THE CHRIST and let us learn all HIS lovely words
learning the scriptures well . cause as i also remind , WE GOTS LOTS OF FLEECERS at work
AND they sure do wear wool too .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen...

What definition of Limited Atonement is Hersey, and why?

Let me show you something so simple a child can see it , if that child has not the rose colored glasses of a denominational teaching
blinding its eyes .
just watch this .
JERUSALEM , O JERSUALEM , thou that stonest the propehts
HOW often WOULD i have GATHERED THEE ...............
now i want us to pay attention to what JESUS says and also to notice what HE DONT SAY .
are you ready .
HOW often would I HAVE GATHERED THEE
ONLY YE WOULD NOT .
now take notice JESUS did not say
HOW often I would have GATHERED YOU , ONLY YE WERE PREDESITINED TO WRATH SO , OH WELL BURN BABY BURN .
HE said YE WOULD NOT .
Notice What GOD also tells them through the prophets
WHY WILL YE DIE , I DESIRE NOT the death of the wicked but rather HE repent .
DONT sound LIKE , WHY WILL YE DIE , OH CAUSE I PRE DETERMINED YOU TO DO SO .
The problem is too many are trying to figure out this predesitnation stuff and are actually making some errrors
SOme truths but some errors . I SUGGEST we just leave that TO GOD and rather preach JESUS to all .

 

[Hey You!]

i honestly dont know what it teaches .
ALL i know is IF we want souls saved , PREACH JESUS . who so ever hears amen
who so ever rejects , Damanation ONLY awaits them .
I Dont bother myself with things too high , i preach rather the simple truth .
AND I KNOW WHO SAVES and by that same grace I KNOW HOW One can be saved .
ITS JESUS . its that simple . what must i do to be saved , WELL BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
And by all means get them believers INTO the bible for themselves to learn for themselves .
TOO many men through their own doctrines have made things way to complicated and far too confusing .
ITS simple really . I KNOW WHO SAVES and I KNOW By grace WHO TO PREACH and remind all
to BELIEVE IN TO BE SAVED . ITS AGAIN JESUS THE CHRIST and let us learn all HIS lovely words
learning the scriptures well . cause as i also remind , WE GOTS LOTS OF FLEECERS at work
AND they sure do wear wool too .

I think we agree the Atonement is Limited the way Jesus thinks it's Limited. He was asked why he speaks in Parables. He said it was given to the Disciples to Understand, but it wasn't given to Others to Understand; so he spoke in Parables because the Others were not permitted to Understand. Why? Because earlier he said it was given to Peter by God to know. - God removed the Tree of Life from the Garden of Eden lest they eat of it and live forever. The Gospel is a Tree of Life; Jesus removed it by speaking in Parables. As Omniscient God, he knew they would not Believe, so as non Believers, they weren't Atoned for...

We're Permitted to Preach to All without prejudice, but Jesus did not commit himself to those Others because he knew what was in them. I think we agree that 'at least that day', he didn't want them to Understand the Gospel...

Right?

 

[amigo de christo]

The ones who are reconciled are the ones Christ died for. How were they reconciled to God according to Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

again , here we go again . I bet all that i own the only ones that are reconciled to GOD , are the ones WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
see how simple that is . So how about we expose satans interfaith and stop trying to preach a false hope .
The lake of fire is real , SO too is the heavenly city .
ALL unbelievers will have thier part in said lake of fire .
SO , seeing by grace I KNOW WHO SAVES , GUESS what NAME i am gonna preach and remind one to BELIEVE IN
and if not they perish . DRUM ROLL , JESUS THE CHRIST . its pretty darn simple .
WHO SO EVER WILL let them come and drink of the waters of life freely , ITS JESUS PREACHING TIME
TIME AGAIN to remind all of the dire and absolute need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
cause honestly those who fail to BELEIVE ON HIM , no matter what they do its in total vain .
AINT no love of the world gonna save anyone . budda kissing , koran embracing , and all the good works one can cook up
JUST WONT save them . BUT JESUS CAN . SO i suggest we preach THAN NAME
with the TRUTH of HE WHO BELIEVES WILL BE SAVED
but HE WHO BELIEVES NOT SHALL BE DAMNED . UNLESS YOU THINK JESUS IS A LIAR . cause HE SAID IT FIRST .