Limited atonement !

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The scripture indicates limited atonement by being specific for whom Christ came into the flesh and identified with. Did He take on flesh to identify with all humanity? Or did He take on flesh to identify with a segment of humanity? Scripture says He came and took on the flesh humanity of the Seed of Abraham. Heb 2:14,16-17

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Now the seed of Abraham, or Abrahams seed are a chosen people Ps 105:6

O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.

Isa 41:8

But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

The seed of Abraham is His friend, and Jesus says Jn 15:13


Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

So His death is limited to His friends the chosen seed of Abraham, in Christ Gal 3:29

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.18

 

[Dash RipRock]

So His death is limited to His friends the chosen seed of Abraham, in Christ Gal 3:29

Yeah, it's too bad that you weren't included in the atonement.,.. a real shame.

Those that claim Jesus is a liar and God's Word contains lies are definitely NOT His friends!

 

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Yeah, it's too bad that you weren't included in the atonement.,.. a real shame.

Those that claim Jesus is a liar and God's Word contains lies are definitely NOT His friends!

So now you resort to judging me to hell

 

[Dash RipRock]

So now you resort to judging me to hell

You people believe God chose to not save some people and as such you have no basis to believe you are one of the ones he assigned to spend eternity in hell.

Those that don't believe all of what God says in His Word have no basis for their faith since they believe some of what God says in His Word are lies. Sadly that's how one gets on God's bad side and cause themselves to spend eternity apart from the Lord.

You people are pretty funny but not in a good way as you believe others are assigned by God to go to hell but you people think you are going to Heaven as though you are better than everyone else and more deserving while others deserve hell.

This is how the reprobate think. Shameful and not biblical at all.

 

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Christs death is limited to them that God has not appointed wrath, but to obtain Salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord 1 Thess 5:9-10

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

Thats very specific. Now who are the us that are to obtain Salvation ? 2 Tim 2:10

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Christ did not die for them appointed to wrath Rom 9:22

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

 

[Dash RipRock]

You are obviously confused and deceived by so called reform theology (doctrines of demons) which claims God does not want all to be saved and claims God has not provided a way for all to be saved.

Just because not all are saved does not mean God does not want them to all be saved or that He has not provided a way for all to be saved.

Christ did not die for them appointed to wrath Rom 9:22

You really should learn the rest of the story according to God's Word and ditch the satan inspired reformed theology

Hebrews 2:9 - But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY man.

Titus 2:11,12 - For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

1 John 2:2 - Jesus is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32 - And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

 

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You are obviously confused and deceived by so called reform theology (doctrines of demons) which claims God does not want all to be saved and claims God has not provided a way for all to be saved.

Just because not all are saved does not mean God does not want them to all be saved or that He has not provided a way for all to be saved.



You really should learn the rest of the story according to God's Word and ditch the satan inspired reformed theology

Hebrews 2:9 - But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY man.

Titus 2:11,12 - For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

1 John 2:2 - Jesus is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32 - And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

See post 1065 Limited atonement !

 

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They that are Called !

The Lord Jesus Christ didn't come nor die to save all mankind, but only for them which are called Heb 9:15

And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

There is a called people that Christ came specifically to taste death for, and bring them into their eternal inheritance. In the original its they which are " the called" with the definite article.

These are the same ones called here Rom 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified

Rom 9:24

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

1 Cor 1:9

God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

1 Pet 2:9

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Remember those in 1 Peter had been redeemed by the blood of Christ 1 Pet 1:18-19 and they were going to obtain an inheritance 1 Pet 1:3-5
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by

the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

This is the same inheritance written of in Heb 9:15 coming to them by means of His death. 19

 

[Dash RipRock]

See post 1065 Limited atonement !

That posts contains false doctrine, inspired by demons being in opposition to what God says in His Word. No thank you.

The Lord Jesus Christ didn't come nor die to save all mankind

God's Word says that is a lie from the devil.

Here's what the Lord actually said about that:
Titus 2:11,12 - For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men

1 John 2:2 - Jesus is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:4 - Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32 - And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

Hebrews 2:9 - But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY man.

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It's really sad to see people listen to the devil and believe the devil's lie that God's Word contains lies. Sad really.

These passages show overwhelming evidence that the calvinist doctrine of limited atonement is false doctrine that calls God a liar.

they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

God had foreknowledge of every person that would ever been born because He is all knowing.
Those not acknowledging this agree with satan that God is not all knowing or all powerful.

Romans 8:29,30 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

So ALL have been called. Sadly many are blinded by the devil which is why not all are saved.

2 Corinthians 4:4 - the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

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That posts contains false doctrine, inspired by demons being in opposition to what God says in His Word. No thank you.



God's Word says that is a lie from the devil.

Here's what the Lord actually said about that:
Titus 2:11,12 - For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men

1 John 2:2 - Jesus is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:4 - Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32 - And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

Hebrews 2:9 - But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY man.

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It's really sad to see people listen to the devil and believe the devil's lie that God's Word contains lies. Sad really.

These passages show overwhelming evidence that the calvinist doctrine of limited atonement is false doctrine that calls God a liar.


God had foreknowledge of every person that would ever been born because He is all knowing.
Those not acknowledging this agree with satan that God is not all knowing or all powerful.

Romans 8:29,30 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

So ALL have been called. Sadly many are blinded by the devil which is why not all are saved.

2 Corinthians 4:4 - the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

I see you here to be an adversary to the Truth

 

[Dash RipRock]

I see you here to be an adversary to the Truth

I'm an adversary to the lies of the devil that he can deceived some in to believing are true as they follow seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils spoken of in 1 Timothy 4:1.

 

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I'm an adversary to the lies of the devil that he can deceived some in to believing are true as they follow seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils spoken of in 1 Timothy 4:1.

You are an adversary to Gods Truth

 

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Christ death wasnt for all mankind, but for those whom He perfected forever who were the sanctified. Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

These are the ones God the Father chose in Christ before the foundation and so they were sanctified in Him Eph 1:4

4 according as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Jude 1:1

Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called

Furthermore Christs death/offering of Himself for them, sanctified them Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Because His death took away our sins ! Now can this be said of all mankind ? Can this be said of the world of the reprobate which is condemned ? 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Were they ever sanctified by God the Father or by the death of Christ ? I say God forbid, No 19