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You make your choices GG, I make mine.
Mine are made because the Kingdom of God has captured my imagination. I hope it captures yours
Try to learn a little bit more about the Kingdom of God,
which you apparently do not understand really well.
Also, see my post to Amigo no. 200

Do you think THIS is the Kingdom Jesus meant to create on earth?
You think we should just accept crime because you think it's being nice to criminals?

You either don't understand what's going on...
in which case keep your head buried in the sand...

or you don't care...
which means that if YOUR daughter gets raped by an illegal alien you
could thank God that he entered your community and is able to live freely there.

Or he pees on YOUR doorstep..
or he burglarizes YOUR home...
or he plays soccer in front of YOUR cemetary...
or he insists that the cricifix be removed from YOUR office...

I could go on if you wish.

Yes.
Find out what Jesus meant when He said
YOUR WILL BE DONE
ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN

Seems you missed that part.
 

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Try to learn a little bit more about the Kingdom of God,
which you apparently do not understand really well.
Also, see my post to Amigo no. 200

Do you think THIS is the Kingdom Jesus meant to create on earth?
You think we should just accept crime because you think it's being nice to criminals?

You either don't understand what's going on...
in which case keep your head buried in the sand...

or you don't care...
which means that if YOUR daughter gets raped by an illegal alien you
could thank God that he entered your community and is able to live freely there.

Or he pees on YOUR doorstep..
or he burglarizes YOUR home...
or he plays soccer in front of YOUR cemetary...
or he insists that the cricifix be removed from YOUR office...

I could go on if you wish.

Yes.
Find out what Jesus meant when He said
YOUR WILL BE DONE
ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN

Seems you missed that part.
The Kingdom of God exists now in the values held by God's people; values that reflect those Jesus lived and spoke of while he sojourned with us.....and yes, God's kingdom is also future, ie when these mortal bodies we currently walk around in are changed and given immortality.

Jesus submitted to those who sought his life consistent with his teaching, 'do not resist an evil man' and 'turn the other cheek' etc.
Of course none of this makes any sense to those whose values aren't aligned with God's Kingdom. They scramble to save their lives today in preference to giving it up for Jesus sake (his values) and the love of the principles which heaven breaths. They do this because they have not known the Father. John 16:21
 

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The Kingdom of God exists now in the values held by God's people; values that reflect those Jesus lived and spoke of while he sojourned with us.....and yes, God's kingdom is also future, ie when these mortal bodies we currently walk around in are changed and given immortality.

Jesus submitted to those who sought his life consistent with his teaching, 'do not resist an evil man' and 'turn the other cheek' etc.
Of course none of this makes any sense to those whose values aren't aligned with God's Kingdom. They scramble to save their lives today in preference to giving it up for Jesus sake (his values) and the love of the principles which heaven breaths. They do this because they have not known the Father. John 16:21
Let me ask you Quiethinkier...
Where do YOU live?
Are YOU experiencing any of the problems I've cited?
 

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The Kingdom of God exists now in the values held by God's people; values that reflect those Jesus lived and spoke of while he sojourned with us.....and yes, God's kingdom is also future, ie when these mortal bodies we currently walk around in are changed and given immortality.

Jesus submitted to those who sought his life consistent with his teaching, 'do not resist an evil man' and 'turn the other cheek' etc.

Neither of those verses say what you THINK they say.
Oh. The ironey.

do a little study on what TURN THE OTHER CHEEK means.
do a little study on what DO NOT RESIST AN EVIL MAN means.
Of course none of this makes any sense to those whose values aren't aligned with God's Kingdom. They scramble to save their lives today in preference to giving it up for Jesus sake (his values) and the love of the principles which heaven breaths. They do this because they have not known the Father. John 16:21
Here, look.
No need to study anything anymore.

Looks like Gemini knows more about what Jesus was teaching than you do...I'm sorry to say.
I AM very happy that my family is not being protected by YOU....
you may not have a family which is why you can believe your notions since they have no consequence.


"Do not resist an evil person" (Matthew 5:39) means refusing to retaliate in kind, prohibiting personal revenge, and breaking cycles of violence with love and grace. It is not a call to absolute passivity, but a mandate to avoid responding to evil with more evil, overcoming it with good.
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Key Interpretations:

  • Non-Retaliation: Instead of taking "an eye for an eye," followers are instructed not to react with revenge, avoiding "meeting evil with evil".
  • Defying Shame: Turning the other cheek is seen as a proactive, non-violent, and dignified act of defiance that challenges the oppressor to treat the victim as an equal.
  • Grace over Rights: The teaching suggests voluntarily giving up rights and property (like giving a coat) rather than fighting for them, focusing on maintaining spiritual integrity over material protection.
  • Avoids Legalism: This teaching shifts focus from legalistic, personal revenge to a higher standard of radical, loving responses.
Contextual Understanding:
  • Targeted at Personal Insults: Many interpretations suggest this applies to daily, non-lethal, or one-time offenses, insults, or humiliations.
  • Not a Command Against Justice: It does not necessarily prohibit the state or courts from seeking justice, but specifically addresses individual vengeance.
  • Active Choice: This approach is seen as a way to maintain personal power and dignity, rather than allowing oneself to be destroyed by hatred.
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It is generally understood that this passage does not mean allowing harmful abuse or abandoning the protection of others, but rather navigating conflicts through peaceful and transformative means
 
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Neither of those verses say what you THINK they say.
Oh. The ironey.

do a little study on what TURN THE OTHER CHEEK means.
do a little study on what DO NOT RESIST AN EVIL MAN means.

Here, look.
No need to study anything anymore.

Looks like Gemini knows more about what Jesus was teaching than you do...I'm sorry to say.
I AM very happy that my family is not being protected by YOU....
you may not have a family which is why you can believe your notions since they have no consequence.


"Do not resist an evil person" (Matthew 5:39) means refusing to retaliate in kind, prohibiting personal revenge, and breaking cycles of violence with love and grace. It is not a call to absolute passivity, but a mandate to avoid responding to evil with more evil, overcoming it with good.
View attachment 83192GotQuestions.org +3
Key Interpretations:

  • Non-Retaliation: Instead of taking "an eye for an eye," followers are instructed not to react with revenge, avoiding "meeting evil with evil".
  • Defying Shame: Turning the other cheek is seen as a proactive, non-violent, and dignified act of defiance that challenges the oppressor to treat the victim as an equal.
  • Grace over Rights: The teaching suggests voluntarily giving up rights and property (like giving a coat) rather than fighting for them, focusing on maintaining spiritual integrity over material protection.
  • Avoids Legalism: This teaching shifts focus from legalistic, personal revenge to a higher standard of radical, loving responses.
Contextual Understanding:
  • Targeted at Personal Insults: Many interpretations suggest this applies to daily, non-lethal, or one-time offenses, insults, or humiliations.
  • Not a Command Against Justice: It does not necessarily prohibit the state or courts from seeking justice, but specifically addresses individual vengeance.
  • Active Choice: This approach is seen as a way to maintain personal power and dignity, rather than allowing oneself to be destroyed by hatred.
    difference.rln.global +4
It is generally understood that this passage does not mean allowing harmful abuse or abandoning the protection of others, but rather navigating conflicts through peaceful and transformative means

Yes the verses refer to not taking vengeance. Leave vengeance to God. They don't mean you can't defend yourself.
 
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Neither of those verses say what you THINK they say.
Oh. The ironey.

do a little study on what TURN THE OTHER CHEEK means.
do a little study on what DO NOT RESIST AN EVIL MAN means.

Here, look.
No need to study anything anymore.

Looks like Gemini knows more about what Jesus was teaching than you do...I'm sorry to say.
I AM very happy that my family is not being protected by YOU....
you may not have a family which is why you can believe your notions since they have no consequence.


"Do not resist an evil person" (Matthew 5:39) means refusing to retaliate in kind, prohibiting personal revenge, and breaking cycles of violence with love and grace. It is not a call to absolute passivity, but a mandate to avoid responding to evil with more evil, overcoming it with good.
View attachment 83192GotQuestions.org +3
Key Interpretations:

  • Non-Retaliation: Instead of taking "an eye for an eye," followers are instructed not to react with revenge, avoiding "meeting evil with evil".
  • Defying Shame: Turning the other cheek is seen as a proactive, non-violent, and dignified act of defiance that challenges the oppressor to treat the victim as an equal.
  • Grace over Rights: The teaching suggests voluntarily giving up rights and property (like giving a coat) rather than fighting for them, focusing on maintaining spiritual integrity over material protection.
  • Avoids Legalism: This teaching shifts focus from legalistic, personal revenge to a higher standard of radical, loving responses.
Contextual Understanding:
  • Targeted at Personal Insults: Many interpretations suggest this applies to daily, non-lethal, or one-time offenses, insults, or humiliations.
  • Not a Command Against Justice: It does not necessarily prohibit the state or courts from seeking justice, but specifically addresses individual vengeance.
  • Active Choice: This approach is seen as a way to maintain personal power and dignity, rather than allowing oneself to be destroyed by hatred.
    difference.rln.global +4
It is generally understood that this passage does not mean allowing harmful abuse or abandoning the protection of others, but rather navigating conflicts through peaceful and transformative means
I hope you work it out right.
Kindness does no violence neither does love and the lack of violence does not mean one is passive.
 

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Stephen had no choice.
And this is not about religion/faith.
It's about crime.
Jesus did not condone crime.
Crime creates chaos in societies.
Jesus did not teach chaos.
God has moral absolutes..
when those moral absolutes are rejected...
society falls into chaos.
This is what satan wants and what he's getting.
If someone is happy with that...it is their right to be.
I'm not happy with it.
I'd like to live in an orderly society.
No sheep condones crime and etc .
Speaking the truth at times within society caused tumults .
God sure does have absolute morals and when folks choose to t urn the spine to him
and worse when churches do so and sell out to ecumenicalism ,
THAT is why we see what we see today . Evil has indeed taken over and grows much worse
And sadly the solution of ecumenicalsim and the judge nots
IS to REMOVE THE DIRE NEED to BELEIVE ON JESUS , and follow that path which they THINK
will bring order and peace and saf ety unto this world .
And they gather under men who are co helpers to this movement .
Society has now , IN LARGE , been given over to a spirit of upmost reprobation
and worse too have many churches . All believing and all thinking
and hoping in men who keep bringing the wrong solution to what they say will bring peace n safety , and order .
WE are being set up for A powe rful beast system , which does promise stablity , order , peace n saf ety
an end to the evils of this world . AND yet It was all but a pipe dream , a snare ,
to give to the peoples of earth the answer to what they believed would give them such things .
For their hope was in men , NOT GOD . And now behold and watch. For what a man sows to
that shall he surely reap . WE really should have stuck to the bible , to CHRIST , to that pattern .
Pray for leaders , but hope in none of them . THEY are but co helpers to the wrong solution .
This world will end . The door will close and the master of the house shall rise up
and Sudden destruction shall come upon all whose hopes were in men and not IN GOD , IN CHRIST .
SO i have no problem praying FOR leaders , but my advice is we hope and trust in none of them .
 
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OH my gosh Deb
It's REALLY like this!

A girlfriend of mine and her sister are visiting from North London.
We've come to the conclusion that this is happening because the reigning govt wants their vote.
But I think it goes deeper than that...
although I make no claim to understand WHY.
Beware and take heed .
its the same agenda and same solution that both sides do bring to us all .
A promise of a system that will bring structure , peace and stability , an end to the evils in this world .
OH but it is only the system of anti christ and of the beast they do offer .
Digital .
And the means by which to merge us all , ecumeincalism .
And if any had bothered to examine this interfaith interrelgiious dialgoue
THEY had seen JESUS DENEID on stage before all .
Folks we better have a serious wake up call . cause both sides , in differing ways
ARE BRINGING THIS to us all .
For in the dark men of darkness work together to do the bidding of the father of lies
with a promise that has peaked their lusteful hearts desire .
Satan knows how to allure and he knows how to lie .
This so called system is not for humanity .
And neither side works for the good of mankind . And though they holler we love thee
and though they holler we do this for thee
HEED NOT a word one outta their lips . THEY DO for them and they prepare a system for the beast .
the blind are blinded by their lust for power and greed . And the dark one has used such lust
TO bring to their minds a means and a way FOR THEM to sit high over the world .
But none of them does know its a kingdom for the beast they build . At most they think its for their God
of enlightment . And that they are the collective consicous and the means
by which to save this world . OH its all a lie of course . ALL of it .
For their lie , their love , their peace , their unity , their lets be one
IT DENIES JESUS THE CHRIST and the Dire need to beleive on him . And it has and it
do honor certain sins as well .
Its not gonna lead to the peace n sa fety of this world .
ITS not gonna save them .
ITS GONNA BRING THE MIGHTY WRATH OF GOD and of THE LAMB down upon them all .
You remember this . REmember i did warn us . WE really should have
put GOD , CHRIST first . Got back into the bible . ITs not too late , but one day IT WILL BE TOO LATE .
 
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Stephen had no choice.
And this is not about religion/faith.
It's about crime.
Jesus did not condone crime.
Crime creates chaos in societies.
Jesus did not teach chaos.
God has moral absolutes..
when those moral absolutes are rejected...
society falls into chaos.
This is what satan wants and what he's getting.
If someone is happy with that...it is their right to be.
I'm not happy with it.
I'd like to live in an orderly society.
look at your third statement . oh it is about crime all right .
A mindset being formed by this agenda of which both sides promote .
And what is this mindset .
And what will it lead all right too . WOE WOE WOE for all attached to anything ecumeincal .
had to make that statment before i said the answer .
Minds are b eing pro grammed by all sides now .
There is just about no place it has not entered into .
And what is this crime . HATECRIME . and all will accuse the true sheep of being of this VERY SOON .
Lets not kid ourselves , to most the sooner men like me are gone the better . cause then they have no one left
to remind them of their sin . I mean lets reason shall we .
I know things i say bother most all people . Maybe not everything i say as folks pick and c hoose what to hear .
But lets face it My friend , ANYTHING attached to anything ecumeincal is going to have no problem
with my voice or others voices b eing silenced . AND I DO MEAN FOREVER . its going to come to this .
Now i aint saying this cause i fear them or what is coming . I say it
because if the true sheep can be persecuted , as many have throughout all ag es ,
IF even true sheep can be lit ON FIRE, while alive
Sounds painful does it not .
BUT if some of the harshest punishments known to man can come against and be allowed to come against
true sheep . WELL i shudder in total terror for t hose who sat under men that lied to them
and led them into reb ellion against GOD
Do you mind if i make a request . Probably , LOL , not the first time i have made it .
But here goes . G ET THEM NOSES INTO THE BIBLE cause many are being FLEECED .
 
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I hope you work it out right.
Kindness does no violence neither does love and the lack of violence does not mean one is passive.
I do no violence to anyone....
I'm very kind.

But,,,,I'm not totally passive....
I would protect my family with all my strength.

Maybe not all of us are willing to do this.
Hope you work it out right.
 
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I do no violence to anyone....
I'm very kind.

But,,,,I'm not totally passive....
I would protect my family with all my strength.

Maybe not all of us are willing to do this.
Hope you work it out right.
lets look at your last two sentences .
And lets change them a bit .
MAYBE NOT ALL are WILLING TO FOLLOW JESUS . AND YEAH I HOPE THEY SURE DO change that mind and do so .
 

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I do no violence to anyone....
I'm very kind.

But,,,,I'm not totally passive....
I would protect my family with all my strength.

Maybe not all of us are willing to do this.
Hope you work it out right.
Any violence bursting out in us my dear is not the working of God's Spirit.

Let us keep our eyes on Jesus who for the joy set before him (ie, being in the company of all who have embraced his kingdom at heart) endured the cross scorning its shame.
 

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I do no violence to anyone....
I'm very kind.

But,,,,I'm not totally passive....
I would protect my family with all my strength.

Maybe not all of us are willing to do this.
Hope you work it out right.

Any violence bursting out in us my dear is not the working of God's Spirit.

Let us keep our eyes on Jesus who for the joy set before him (ie, being in the company of all who have embraced his kingdom at heart) endured the cross scorning its shame.

So what if a woman is being sexually assaulted? Do you mean she does nothing and lets herself be raped? Or does she defend herself...which is the normal response.
 

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So what if a woman is being sexually assaulted? Do you mean she does nothing and lets herself be raped? Or does she defend herself...which is the normal response.
You work it out Deb.
 

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'This is not the New York City I knew': Jews, Muslims and Christians unite at anti-Mamdani rally

You have to know that they knew the backlash they were going to get with all the new policies they been pushing.
So you have to ask yourself, Why?
Why put yourself in the limelight when staying in the shadows gave you more cover, more power?
Who is Mamdani?
Sometimes you don't know all the moves in the chess game until it's been played.
It will be interesting to watch this play out.
Thank you for sharing.
Here is another:

Hugs
 
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'This is not the New York City I knew': Jews, Muslims and Christians unite at anti-Mamdani rally

yeah and its not only a snare but the snare . You do realize what is really going on and the spirit behind it all .
You are watching it unfold .
soon the united religoins will call upon a savoir and savoirs to bring peace to the world .
Anything known as or termed fundamental , non inclusive , will be targeted .
Alll others will have already united as one under their inclusive god of the unholy sea of man .
Its all a set up , it was all prepared and given unto this generation .
The spirit behind it all was a highly subtile one indeed . But JESUS has always had his sheep
and unto it they will not bend the knee .
This people no longer cares about the things of the LORD , only that someone can bring them
peace and give them the desires of thier own hearts .
Which m eans they surely will be given the desires of their own hearts . But it wont work to their good at all
but only to their own destruction .
The inclusive god rises and by means of a digital AI led system
shall rage and make war against the few who conformed not .
 
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yeah and its not only a snare but the snare . You do realize what is really going on and the spirit behind it all .
You are watching it unfold .
soon the united religoins will call upon a savoir and savoirs to bring peace to the world .
Anything known as or termed fundamental , non inclusive , will be targeted .
Alll others will have already united as one under their inclusive god of the unholy sea of man .
Its all a set up , it was all prepared and given unto this generation .
The spirit behind it all was a highly subtile one indeed . But JESUS has always had his sheep
and unto it they will not bend the knee .
This people no longer cares about the things of the LORD , only that someone can bring them
peace and give them the desires of thier own hearts .
Which m eans they surely will be given the desires of their own hearts . But it wont work to their good at all
but only to their own destruction .
The inclusive god rises and by means of a digital AI led system
shall rage and make war against the few who conformed not .
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'This is not the New York City I knew': Jews, Muslims and Christians unite at anti-Mamdani rally

Its begun . and moving faster than i thought .
SOON all tribes will cry as one
Soon the decieved of the false religoins as well as christendom
will heed the solution of their inclusive god .
And the time will come when even the few christains who resisted this inclusive god ,
will be seen as just as dangerous as the aylloh tollah himself .
THE war is and will be the inclusivians of united religoins of anti christ
verses the true sheep who bowed not the knee to this god of inclusivity and its plan for peace .
Just wanted to let you all know what you are being set up for my friend .
You probably thought it was really about religious freedom .
No sir it was all about the simple uniting of them all
by means of a common goal . It lied to them and sadly many are buying into it .
 
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