Matt 24:31 vs. Matt 13:40-42

[friend of]

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

—Versus—

Matthew 13:40 As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness. 42 And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.…

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So which end times scenario is it? Will the sent angels gather the tares into bundles or will they gather the elect from the four winds? These verses seem to be in conflict.

 

[friend of]

I'm quoting someone from another forum—

"Matt 13 is speaking about the slaughter of Ez 9 that occurs within the Church it is the judgment that begins within his sanctuary/kingdom. Matt 24 is speaking of the very last trump at the end of the world where all the righteous go to meet the Lord in the Air at his coming. The first(matt 13) occurs during the time of the Mark of the Beast, the second(matt 24) occurs at the very last trump at the time of Christ's return with fire to punish the wicked on the whole earth(as the Church/God's kingdom had already been purged of the wicked in the Slaughter of Ez 9)."

 

[Windmill Charge]

These verses seem to be in conflict.

Context, context and again context.
Read the whole passage and you will see that Matt 13 is a parable, a story said to make a point.
Matt 24 is an actual prediction from Jesus.

From the parable we learn that there is an end time and conscience for belief etc.
From the prediction we learn some more and with more detail.

So again context of any verse, don't read the verse read the whole chapter, look at Bible gateway for different translations before posting.

 

[Enoch111]

So which end times scenario is it? Will the sent angels gather the tares into bundles or will they gather the elect from the four winds? These verses seem to be in conflict.

Two totally different scenarios. After the Second Coming, Christ sends His angels to gather the believing remnant of the Jews (the elect) to Israel. After the Millennium, and the battle of Gog and Magog, the tares are gathered up, and all the unrighteous are cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev 20).

 

[Episkopos]

God is going to test everyone of the elect with fire. Some will receive a reward and be robed and others will lose everything and be eternally naked. This is the Bema judgment....for the house of God...the furnace spoken of is NOT the lake of fire. It tests the works of the brothers...of what kind they are.

 

[Timtofly]

Since the wheat and tares gathering has already started last October and will go on for 3.5 years, so another 3 years, they are not the same.

The saints are not on earth. Sounds like for 3 years they have been discovering all the heavens above the earth, which humans have been barred from doing until this year.

So the angels have to sound a trumpet to gather them back for an important event.

 

[101G]

Matthew 13:24 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 "But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 "But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 "So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 "He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?Matthew 13:29 "But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

ONLY IN THE TIME OF "HARVEST" WILL THIS TAKE PLACE, AND THE "WHEAT"/CHURCH WILL BE HERE.

PICJAG.

 

[DPMartin]

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

—Versus—

Matthew 13:40 As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness. 42 And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.…

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So which end times scenario is it? Will the sent angels gather the tares into bundles or will they gather the elect from the four winds? These verses seem to be in conflict.

as Paul explains:
1Co 3:11　 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.　
1Co 3:12　 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;　
1Co 3:13　 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.　
1Co 3:14　 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.　
1Co 3:15　 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.　

the same fire that removes what is unwanted by the Lord is the same fire that saves you.


Luk_3:16　 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:


also what was in the fire that Moses saw?

Exo 3:2　 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.　
Exo 3:3　 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.　
Exo 3:4　 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.　


and there is the fact that no man can withstand the fully revealed Presence of God.

and Paul quotes Moses:
Heb_12:29　 For our God is a consuming fire.


found here:
(Deu_4:24　 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)