MATTHEW 28 IS IT OUR COMMISSION?

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Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus was commanding the eleven disciples. Jesus commanded them to teach all the nations to obey his commandments. This was preparation for the coming Davidic kingdom on earth. Israel was to be a blessing to the Gentile nations in the kingdom. They were commanded to baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, where as before it was in the name of Jesus only because the Holy Ghost was not fallen on them (Isaiah 2:2-3 Zechariah 8:23 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16).

Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The eleven disciples, were once again, the only ones who were given this commandment. They were to go and preach the gospel of the kingdom. The gospel of the coming kingdom on earth, in which Christ will reign along with the disciples. They were not preaching Paul's gospel (Matthew 24:14).

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

The gospel of the kingdom required baptism. The salvation spoken of here is a physical salvation that would deliver Israel from the tribulation and the Antichrist. This salvation is Israel being saved to enter the kingdom on earth.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

These were signs that would only follow the disciples at the time the gospel of the kingdom was being preached. This gospel is not being preached today, nor does the church, the body of Christ have any basis to warrant any expectation that these signs have any application today.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The signs that would follow belief were only to confirm the authenticity of the word spoken of the coming kingdom.

Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

The nations are Gentiles. Starting first at Jerusalem, the gospel of the kingdom would be preached. It is to the Jew first (Acts 15:7 Romans 1:16).

The nations were to be given the same gospel of the kingdom the Apostles preached to Israel (Mark 13:10 Luke 9:6).

The nations, as did Israel, were to repent and believe on the name of Jesus for remission of sins. This is the same remission of sins that John and Peter preached (Mark 1:4 Acts 2:38 Acts 10:43).

Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

John and the eleven remaining disciples were witnesses. The church, the body of Christ can not be witnesses. Paul only was witness (John 1:7 John 15:27 Acts 1:22 Acts 22:15).

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

The disciples were to remain in Jerusalem and wait for the Holy Ghost. This was fulfilled at Pentecost. Acts 2:1

John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Jesus gave the authority to remit sins. This commandment will be carried out in the kingdom on earth. The body of Christ has no such authority.

The commissions were given to the disciples only. They were to go unto the nations, the Gentiles. The body of Christ are to go to all men, to exhort that all be reconciled to God, through The Lord Jesus Christ. The body of Christ, the church, in this dispensation, are ambassadors of Christ to all (2 Corinthians 5:20 Colossians 1:18).
 

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Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus was commanding the eleven disciples. Jesus commanded them to teach all the nations to obey his commandments. This was preparation for the coming Davidic kingdom on earth. Israel was to be a blessing to the Gentile nations in the kingdom. They were commanded to baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, where as before it was in the name of Jesus only because the Holy Ghost was not fallen on them (Isaiah 2:2-3 Zechariah 8:23 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16).

Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The eleven disciples, were once again, the only ones who were given this commandment. They were to go and preach the gospel of the kingdom. The gospel of the coming kingdom on earth, in which Christ will reign along with the disciples. They were not preaching Paul's gospel (Matthew 24:14).

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

The gospel of the kingdom required baptism. The salvation spoken of here is a physical salvation that would deliver Israel from the tribulation and the Antichrist. This salvation is Israel being saved to enter the kingdom on earth.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

These were signs that would only follow the disciples at the time the gospel of the kingdom was being preached. This gospel is not being preached today, nor does the church, the body of Christ have any basis to warrant any expectation that these signs have any application today.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The signs that would follow belief were only to confirm the authenticity of the word spoken of the coming kingdom.

Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

The nations are Gentiles. Starting first at Jerusalem, the gospel of the kingdom would be preached. It is to the Jew first (Acts 15:7 Romans 1:16).

The nations were to be given the same gospel of the kingdom the Apostles preached to Israel (Mark 13:10 Luke 9:6).

The nations, as did Israel, were to repent and believe on the name of Jesus for remission of sins. This is the same remission of sins that John and Peter preached (Mark 1:4 Acts 2:38 Acts 10:43).

Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

John and the eleven remaining disciples were witnesses. The church, the body of Christ can not be witnesses. Paul only was witness (John 1:7 John 15:27 Acts 1:22 Acts 22:15).

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

The disciples were to remain in Jerusalem and wait for the Holy Ghost. This was fulfilled at Pentecost. Acts 2:1

John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Jesus gave the authority to remit sins. This commandment will be carried out in the kingdom on earth. The body of Christ has no such authority.

The commissions were given to the disciples only. They were to go unto the nations, the Gentiles. The body of Christ are to go to all men, to exhort that all be reconciled to God, through The Lord Jesus Christ. The body of Christ, the church, in this dispensation, are ambassadors of Christ to all (2 Corinthians 5:20 Colossians 1:18).
It's obvious it was not directed to us, HOWEVER, it is a Christian's obligation to convert as well. So, there is a secondary application to us today. And note, the entirety of the bible was not written or addressed directly to us today. Are we not to believe in the Lord?
 

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Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus was commanding the eleven disciples. Jesus commanded them to teach all the nations to obey his commandments. This was preparation for the coming Davidic kingdom on earth. Israel was to be a blessing to the Gentile nations in the kingdom. They were commanded to baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, where as before it was in the name of Jesus only because the Holy Ghost was not fallen on them (Isaiah 2:2-3 Zechariah 8:23 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16).

Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The eleven disciples, were once again, the only ones who were given this commandment. They were to go and preach the gospel of the kingdom. The gospel of the coming kingdom on earth, in which Christ will reign along with the disciples. They were not preaching Paul's gospel (Matthew 24:14).

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

The gospel of the kingdom required baptism. The salvation spoken of here is a physical salvation that would deliver Israel from the tribulation and the Antichrist. This salvation is Israel being saved to enter the kingdom on earth.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

These were signs that would only follow the disciples at the time the gospel of the kingdom was being preached. This gospel is not being preached today, nor does the church, the body of Christ have any basis to warrant any expectation that these signs have any application today.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The signs that would follow belief were only to confirm the authenticity of the word spoken of the coming kingdom.

Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

The nations are Gentiles. Starting first at Jerusalem, the gospel of the kingdom would be preached. It is to the Jew first (Acts 15:7 Romans 1:16).

The nations were to be given the same gospel of the kingdom the Apostles preached to Israel (Mark 13:10 Luke 9:6).

The nations, as did Israel, were to repent and believe on the name of Jesus for remission of sins. This is the same remission of sins that John and Peter preached (Mark 1:4 Acts 2:38 Acts 10:43).

Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

John and the eleven remaining disciples were witnesses. The church, the body of Christ can not be witnesses. Paul only was witness (John 1:7 John 15:27 Acts 1:22 Acts 22:15).

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

The disciples were to remain in Jerusalem and wait for the Holy Ghost. This was fulfilled at Pentecost. Acts 2:1

John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Jesus gave the authority to remit sins. This commandment will be carried out in the kingdom on earth. The body of Christ has no such authority.

The commissions were given to the disciples only. They were to go unto the nations, the Gentiles. The body of Christ are to go to all men, to exhort that all be reconciled to God, through The Lord Jesus Christ. The body of Christ, the church, in this dispensation, are ambassadors of Christ to all (2 Corinthians 5:20 Colossians 1:18).
We the church are to go into all nations, teaching and making disiples as well and to obey all that the Lord has taught us. It is all our commission.

The gospel of the kingdom is different than the gospel of salvation. We do not preach "repent for the kingom of heaven is at hand" as did John the Baptist and the disciples until Matthew 12. We preach Jesus, crucified, buried and risen fo e the remission of sins. This is a different gospel than the one John the Baptiust preached.

Jesus came and literally offerred the kingdom ot Israel in that day knowing they would reject it.

The gospel of the kingdom will be repreached durng the tribulation (side by side with teh gospel of salvation)
 

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28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,

Here is how those words of Jesus are to be understood as Paul's Gospel.


"Go you to every unbeliever everywhere and tell them the Good News that I have died for all their Sin, I am the Redeemer, I am Salvaiton. I am the Blood Atonement..........and tell them that God wants them to become His Child = thorugh MY Sacrifice on The Cross".


baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

The "Water Baptising".........happens AFTER the person has been born again.

So, the Salvation comes first, that is LITERAL, and then the sybolic water baptism, the public confession, comes later.
 

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It's obvious it was not directed to us, HOWEVER, it is a Christian's obligation to convert as well. So, there is a secondary application to us today. And note, the entirety of the bible was not written or addressed directly to us today. Are we not to believe in the Lord?
Here is our "commission" by Paul.............[2Co 5:20 KJV] 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Yes we are to believe in the Lord today..........[1Ti 1:16 KJV] 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.........we are to believe on Jesus as preached by Paul
 

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John and the eleven remaining disciples were witnesses. The church, the body of Christ can not be witnesses. Paul only was witness (John 1:7 John 15:27 Acts 1:22 Acts 22:15).
This is false, for the church the body of Christ are also witnesses of the Gospel.

Ephesians 6:
15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace;


Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ
 

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It's obvious it was not directed to us, HOWEVER, it is a Christian's obligation to convert as well. So, there is a secondary application to us today. And note, the entirety of the bible was not written or addressed directly to us today. Are we not to believe in the Lord?
I would say that it is definitely not the Christian's obligation to convert anybody. Christians can and should spread the gospel, but only God can convert sinners dead in trespasses and sins. The "Great Commission" that Jesus gave to His first disciples was about spreading the gospel ("Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature"). Jesus didn't tell them to go into all the world and convert people.
 
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We the church are to go into all nations, teaching and making disiples as well and to obey all that the Lord has taught us. It is all our commission.

The gospel of the kingdom is different than the gospel of salvation. We do not preach "repent for the kingom of heaven is at hand" as did John the Baptist and the disciples until Matthew 12. We preach Jesus, crucified, buried and risen fo e the remission of sins. This is a different gospel than the one John the Baptiust preached.

Jesus came and literally offerred the kingdom ot Israel in that day knowing they would reject it.

The gospel of the kingdom will be repreached durng the tribulation (side by side with teh gospel of salvation)
You say we are not to preach the gospel of the kingdom, and rightly so, but you do realize that if you think our commission is to teach all nations/baptizing them/teaching all Jesus commanded you would have to preach the gospel of the kingdom because that is what he sent the disciples to preach and teach.......you did say teach ALL he commanded.....................[Mat 24:14 KJV] 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 

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Here is how those words of Jesus are to be understood as Paul's Gospel.
What you say is not in the passage......Paul's gospel was not being preached then.......we can preach Paul's gospel without including the commission of Matthew 28......Paul gave us our commission.............................[2Co 5:18-21 KJV] 18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 

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So, the Salvation comes first, that is LITERAL, and then the sybolic water baptism, the public confession, comes later.
Water baptism was for the remission of sins ..........Paul never tells us to be water baptized and nowhere does it say its symbolic of belief for a public confession.......changing the meaning of baptism as stated in scripture doesnt make it so
 

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What you say is not in the passage......Paul's gospel was not being preached then.....

Exactly.

So, when Paul came, was called, Jesus gave Paul the ..doctrine for the body of Christ.
And now THAT is our "commision".

To Preach the Gospel, to disciple new converts.... .and start NT Local Churches., and we dont preach "water and works".....we preach "Christ Crucified".

Let me show you something your commentaries never will , Reader.

THE BIBLE< is a book, a spiritual book of PROGRESSIVE Revelation.
It shows us How God deals with MAN, over time....and this CHANGES from Gen to Rev.
So, at this time........in this moment.......the Bride of Christ is being GATHERED, and this is according to Paul's Gospel that came from JESUS, and its not to "water baptise" anyone as the main thing.
 

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This is false, for the church the body of Christ are also witnesses of the Gospel.

Ephesians 6:
15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace;


Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ
To be a witness in the verse I was citing (Luke 24:48) one had to be a witness of Christ on earth from the beginning:
[Act 1:22 KJV] 22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
 

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Here is our "commission" by Paul.............[2Co 5:20 KJV] 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Yes we are to believe in the Lord today..........[1Ti 1:16 KJV] 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.........we are to believe on Jesus as preached by Paul
So you do not believe in making disciples then? And also not teaching people to observe all things the Lord commanded and has been passed down from generation to generation?
 

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You say we are not to preach the gospel of the kingdom, and rightly so, but you do realize that if you think our commission is to teach all nations/baptizing them/teaching all Jesus commanded you would have to preach the gospel of the kingdom because that is what he sent the disciples to preach and teach.......you did say teach ALL he commanded.....................[Mat 24:14 KJV] 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
This is only partially correct. Jesus sent out the disciples to preach the arrival of the king and kingdom, until the leaders of Israel blasphemed the Spirit in Matt. 12. Then the offer of the kingdom was withdrawn from that generation.

The focus and emphasis of jesus teaching from that point on was to prepare the apostles to plant and build the church. You will see that after the events of Matthew 12, the gospel of the kingdom was no longer preached.

During the tribulation, the 144,000 and others will once again preach THE COMING KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH ALONG WITH TEH GOSPEL OF SALVATION. BOTH WILL BE COMBINED!
 

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So you do not believe in making disciples then? And also not teaching people to observe all things the Lord commanded and has been passed down from generation to generation?
Of course we should give the gospel
I dont think we are to follow commandments given to Israel which included the law nor preach the gospel of the kingdom....we can benefit from his teaching but we are given our doctrine from Paul
Did you understand that if you are going to obey all Jesus taught Israel in his earthly ministry then you need to preach the gospel of the kingdom which he commanded them to preach.....you cant exclude it
 

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This is only partially correct. Jesus sent out the disciples to preach the arrival of the king and kingdom, until the leaders of Israel blasphemed the Spirit in Matt. 12. Then the offer of the kingdom was withdrawn from that generation.

The focus and emphasis of jesus teaching from that point on was to prepare the apostles to plant and build the church. You will see that after the events of Matthew 12, the gospel of the kingdom was no longer preached.

During the tribulation, the 144,000 and others will once again preach THE COMING KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH ALONG WITH TEH GOSPEL OF SALVATION. BOTH WILL BE COMBINED!
Jesus commanded the gospel of the kingdom be preached before his ascension ......................[Mar 16:15 KJV] 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature..............the gospel of the kingdom was the only gospel preached until Paul's and you would have to teach it if you think the commissions are for you
 

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I would say that it is definitely not the Christian's obligation to convert anybody. Christians can and should spread the gospel, but only God can convert sinners dead in trespasses and sins. The "Great Commission" that Jesus gave to His first disciples was about spreading the gospel ("Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature"). Jesus didn't tell them to go into all the world and convert people.
The book of Acts is a book of Christians converting others: its also referred to as the book of conversions. One converts by spreading the gospel and teaching which is a Christian's obligation that God has left up to man to do. Yes, God changes hearts and ultimately convinces, but its by our preaching and teaching his word.
 

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Of course we should give the gospel
I dont think we are to follow commandments given to Israel which included the law nor preach the gospel of the kingdom....we can benefit from his teaching but we are given our doctrine from Paul
Did you understand that if you are going to obey all Jesus taught Israel in his earthly ministry then you need to preach the gospel of the kingdom which he commanded them to preach.....you cant exclude it
I didn't say al;l Jesus taught Israel. I said we are to observe all that Jesus commanded in making disciples.

Remember nearly all the Apostles went into gentile lands and did not teach Israeli things but church things. The Apostles did not disagree with Paul. EvenPaul taught Jewish believers to uphold many Jewish laws, but did not do that for gentiles.