Is the Millennial Reign where Jesus automatically judges everyone? Those that rebel are sent to the lake of fire, while those that don't get to see eternal life? And everyone has a chance of accepting Jesus as Lord?I know that there isn't a rapture so to speak.So it's like this: Present Time > Antichrist > Tribulation > Satan > Millennial Kingdom (Judgment) > You're either in heaven or in the lake of fire.
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Is the Millennial Reign where Jesus automatically judges everyone? Those that rebel are sent to the lake of fire, while those that don't get to see eternal life? And everyone has a chance of accepting Jesus as Lord?I know that there isn't a rapture so to speak.So it's like this: Present Time > Antichrist > Tribulation > Satan > Millennial Kingdom (Judgment) > You're either in heaven or in the lake of fire.
The Millennium is one continuous day of a thousand years. Also called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord. At the beginning of this reign God's wrath is poured out on His enemies and all are changed, the end of abiding in flesh bodies. The Millennium is a time of teaching and discipline, a harvest of souls that are still mortal or spiritually dead. Then near the end of this day Satan is released and a final harvest of souls to perish.Then eternal Glory.
Is the Millennial Reign where Jesus automatically judges everyone? Those that rebel are sent to the lake of fire, while those that don't get to see eternal life? And everyone has a chance of accepting Jesus as Lord?I know that there isn't a rapture so to speak.So it's like this: Present Time > Antichrist > Tribulation > Satan > Millennial Kingdom (Judgment) > You're either in heaven or in the lake of fire.
The Millennium is one continuous day of a thousand years. Also called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord. At the beginning of this reign God's wrath is poured out on His enemies and all are changed, the end of abiding in flesh bodies. The Millennium is a time of teaching and discipline, a harvest of souls that are still mortal or spiritually dead. Then near the end of this day Satan is released and a final harvest of souls to perish.Then eternal Glory.
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I'm confused. What will happen to God's enemies during the millennial reign? Are they sent to prison?
When you say God's enemies this also means systems or maybe kingdoms would be a better term. For example the one-world political beast, the dragon, the false prophet, the harlot (religion), and Babylon (confusion), these are all done away with. The dragon has a tail of close followers (fallen angels) and they are done away with. This all happens at the beginning of the Millennium when God's wrath is poured out.All souls that survive God's wrath are considered spiritually dead, that is their soul is still mortal or liable to die. No abiding in flesh bodies any more.Those souls that overcame Satan, they did not receive his mark (deception), put on immortality and they teach and try to harvest more souls.
I'm confused. What will happen to God's enemies during the millennial reign? Are they sent to prison?
When you say God's enemies this also means systems or maybe kingdoms would be a better term. For example the one-world political beast, the dragon, the false prophet, the harlot (religion), and Babylon (confusion), these are all done away with. The dragon has a tail of close followers (fallen angels) and they are done away with. This all happens at the beginning of the Millennium when God's wrath is poured out.All souls that survive God's wrath are considered spiritually dead, that is their soul is still mortal or liable to die. No abiding in flesh bodies any more.Those souls that overcame Satan, they did not receive his mark (deception), put on immortality and they teach and try to harvest more souls.
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So it's like a second chance in a sense?
They did not have a first chance when you consider MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
So it's like a second chance in a sense?
They did not have a first chance when you consider MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
millenial is the highest number in the greek language it is like saying a zillion meaning for ever. Mathew 28:20after Jesus rose from the dead his never ending his millenial reign begain never will he face humilation again .he is reigning in the hearts of his people he reigns over heaven and earth.even the bad that happens to us christians Jesus works it out to our Good.people look around and think there is no God that is in controll or this or that would not take place.They fail to see this is our time of grace . after one dies its to late . Jesus said my kingdom is not of this earth! John 18:36so there will not be a thousand year reign of Jesus on this earth . Lets investigate and see if the rest of scripture bears this out?Jesus is not going to set up a earthly kingdom There will never be peace on this earthJesus says the world will be like this Mathew 24:6-7Christians will not rule on this earth instead Jesus said we will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death Mathew 24:9Instead of mass conversions that some say will happen . Jesus says this will happen.Mathew 24:11,12st paul knew there was not going to be a earthly reign of Christ instead he warned us of this 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3Peter also knew there was never going to be a earthly reign of Christ on this earth. and wrote this crushing blow to those who think other wise proving it. 2 Peter 3:13
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millenial is the highest number in the greek language it is like saying a zillion meaning for ever. Mathew 28:20after Jesus rose from the dead his never ending his millenial reign begain never will he face humilation again .he is reigning in the hearts of his people he reigns over heaven and earth.even the bad that happens to us christians Jesus works it out to our Good.people look around and think there is no God that is in controll or this or that would not take place.They fail to see this is our time of grace . after one dies its to late . Jesus said my kingdom is not of this earth! so there will not be a thousand year reign of Jesus on this earth . Lets investigate and see if the rest of scripture bears this out?Jesus is not going to set up a earthly kingdom There will never be peace on this earthJesus says the world will be like this Mathew 24:6-7Christians will not rule on this earth instead Jesus said we will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death Mathew 24:9Instead of mass conversions that some say will happen . Jesus says this will happen.Mathew 24:11,12st paul knew there was not going to be a earthly reign of Christ instead he warned us of this 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3Peter also knew there was never going to be a earthly reign of Christ on this earth. and wrote this crushing blow to those who think other wise proving it. 2 Peter 3:13
What are you talking about did you forget the End of the story? a Millennium is a thousand yearsRevelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." We saw that those who took part in the first resurrection were those who died in the Lord, and those who did not yield to Satan, the Antichrist during his "one world" reign. Those who did not take the Antichrist's "mark of the beast", these are the blessed and holy ones. All of these people already will possess an immortal soul during the Millennium.The "second death" is the second time of testing at the end of the Millennium(1000years) age after Satan is released for a short season. The saints of Christ, and overcomers of the Antichrist's reign in this earth age of the flesh will not go through the second testing, or resurrection, with those mortal souls living in the Millennium age.What are you going to do in the Millennium as a saint of Christ? You're going to be priests of God, and reign with Him. You are going to teach and oversee, and judge those mortal souls, as they will learn and follow all directives of our Lord Jesus Christ.Revelation 20:7 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." When everyone has been taught that are in their mortal (liable to die) soul bodies, then Satan will be loosed. Those teachings were given under perfect conditions, and all will have bodies with no ailments, perfect thought, and no temptations by Satan. In fact, all will even know he was the deceiver of this earth age. Their understanding will be perfect.Then Satan is released.Revelation 21:1 "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." At the close of chapter 20, the fire of hell that consume Satan and all his followers, will not exist. They will never again return in any form, and in their place will be a rejuvenated earth. Will this place be on some far off planet? No, but right here on earth. It will be perfect.We see in II Peter 3:10,11 that the existence of this present earth age will be changed with the all physical elements (evil rudiments) done away with, at the "day of our Lord". Then in II Peter 3:12, at the end of the Millennium age, the evil souls are turned to ashes. This is called the "day of God".II Peter 3:13 "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." This new heaven and new earth is a promise given by God to the earliest prophets, and we have seen throughout the Holy Scriptures that God does keep all his promises.
millenial is the highest number in the greek language it is like saying a zillion meaning for ever. Mathew 28:20after Jesus rose from the dead his never ending his millenial reign begain never will he face humilation again .he is reigning in the hearts of his people he reigns over heaven and earth.even the bad that happens to us christians Jesus works it out to our Good.people look around and think there is no God that is in controll or this or that would not take place.They fail to see this is our time of grace . after one dies its to late . Jesus said my kingdom is not of this earth! so there will not be a thousand year reign of Jesus on this earth . Lets investigate and see if the rest of scripture bears this out?Jesus is not going to set up a earthly kingdom There will never be peace on this earthJesus says the world will be like this Mathew 24:6-7Christians will not rule on this earth instead Jesus said we will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death Mathew 24:9Instead of mass conversions that some say will happen . Jesus says this will happen.Mathew 24:11,12st paul knew there was not going to be a earthly reign of Christ instead he warned us of this 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3Peter also knew there was never going to be a earthly reign of Christ on this earth. and wrote this crushing blow to those who think other wise proving it. 2 Peter 3:13
What are you talking about did you forget the End of the story? a Millennium is a thousand yearsRevelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." We saw that those who took part in the first resurrection were those who died in the Lord, and those who did not yield to Satan, the Antichrist during his "one world" reign. Those who did not take the Antichrist's "mark of the beast", these are the blessed and holy ones. All of these people already will possess an immortal soul during the Millennium.The "second death" is the second time of testing at the end of the Millennium(1000years) age after Satan is released for a short season. The saints of Christ, and overcomers of the Antichrist's reign in this earth age of the flesh will not go through the second testing, or resurrection, with those mortal souls living in the Millennium age.What are you going to do in the Millennium as a saint of Christ? You're going to be priests of God, and reign with Him. You are going to teach and oversee, and judge those mortal souls, as they will learn and follow all directives of our Lord Jesus Christ.Revelation 20:7 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." When everyone has been taught that are in their mortal (liable to die) soul bodies, then Satan will be loosed. Those teachings were given under perfect conditions, and all will have bodies with no ailments, perfect thought, and no temptations by Satan. In fact, all will even know he was the deceiver of this earth age. Their understanding will be perfect.Then Satan is released.Revelation 21:1 "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." At the close of chapter 20, the fire of hell that consume Satan and all his followers, will not exist. They will never again return in any form, and in their place will be a rejuvenated earth. Will this place be on some far off planet? No, but right here on earth. It will be perfect.We see in II Peter 3:10,11 that the existence of this present earth age will be changed with the all physical elements (evil rudiments) done away with, at the "day of our Lord". Then in II Peter 3:12, at the end of the Millennium age, the evil souls are turned to ashes. This is called the "day of God".II Peter 3:13 "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." This new heaven and new earth is a promise given by God to the earliest prophets, and we have seen throughout the Holy Scriptures that God does keep all his promises.
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What are you talking about did you forget the End of the story? a Millennium
Thanks kriss, when I saw his post I thought, Oh no, but I see you have responded.
What are you talking about did you forget the End of the story? a Millennium
Thanks kriss, when I saw his post I thought, Oh no, but I see you have responded.
Revelations 20:1-2every phrase in rev 20:1-2 is figurativeJohn in the middle of a vision sees Jesus as a angel THE devil is a dragonhell is a deep pitalthough a abyss does not have a lock, John sees Jesus holding a keysatan is a evil spirit and cant be held with chains Yet John sees Jesus holding satan back with chains.to take a thousand years not figurativly at the end of verse 2 but as you take it when the whole context of these verses clearly shows we are to literaly take this stuff figurativly . does great injustace to the way God is talking to us here.AND the same goes for the following verses.
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Revelations 20:1-2every phrase in rev 20:1-2 is figurativejohn in the middle of a vision sees jesus as a angel THE devil is a dragonhell is a deep pitalthough a abyss does not have a lock, john sees jesus holding a keysatan is a evil spirit and cant be held with chains Yet john sees jesus holding satan back with chains.to take a thousand years not figurativly at the end of verse 2 but as you take when the context clearly shows we are to literaly take this stuff figurativly . does great injustace to the way God is talking to us here.again the greek highest number is 1000. figurtivly it is a number to express a unending reign.
Yes, Christ will have unending reign. But from the seventh trump to the great white thrown judgement is called the Millennium, the Lord's day, or the day of the Lord. Then comes eternal Glory. Why is it called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord? 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Revelations 20:1-2every phrase in rev 20:1-2 is figurativejohn in the middle of a vision sees jesus as a angel THE devil is a dragonhell is a deep pitalthough a abyss does not have a lock, john sees jesus holding a keysatan is a evil spirit and cant be held with chains Yet john sees jesus holding satan back with chains.to take a thousand years not figurativly at the end of verse 2 but as you take when the context clearly shows we are to literaly take this stuff figurativly . does great injustace to the way God is talking to us here.again the greek highest number is 1000. figurtivly it is a number to express a unending reign.
Yes, Christ will have unending reign. But from the seventh trump to the great white thrown judgement is called the Millennium, the Lord's day, or the day of the Lord. Then comes eternal Glory. Why is it called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord? 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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Yes, Christ will have unending reign. But from the seventh trump to the great white thrown judgement is called the Millennium, the Lord's day, or the day of the Lord. Then comes eternal Glory. Why is it called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord? 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Christ will have no! He has a unending reign it started when he won us forgivness from our sins.how do I know thisHebrews 10:12MILLENIALISM A FALSE HOPE AND EVEN BIGGER THREAT.http://www.wlsessays.net/authors/XYZ/ZinkM...llennialism.PDF
Yes, Christ will have unending reign. But from the seventh trump to the great white thrown judgement is called the Millennium, the Lord's day, or the day of the Lord. Then comes eternal Glory. Why is it called the Lord's day or the day of the Lord? 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Christ will have no! He has a unending reign it started when he won us forgivness from our sins.how do I know thisHebrews 10:12MILLENIALISM A FALSE HOPE AND EVEN BIGGER THREAT.http://www.wlsessays.net/authors/XYZ/ZinkM...llennialism.PDF
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Christ will have no! He has a unending reign it started when he won us forgivness from our sins.how do I know thisHebrews 10:12MILLENIALISM A FALSE HOPE AND EVEN BIGGER THREAT.http://www.wlsessays.net/authors/XYZ/ZinkM...llennialism.PDF
I guess God's word is incorrect and you and your link are correct then.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Christ will have no! He has a unending reign it started when he won us forgivness from our sins.how do I know thisHebrews 10:12MILLENIALISM A FALSE HOPE AND EVEN BIGGER THREAT.http://www.wlsessays.net/authors/XYZ/ZinkM...llennialism.PDF
I guess God's word is incorrect and you and your link are correct then.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
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I guess God's word is incorrect and you and your link are correct then.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
no Gods word is correct ; as the verse says Jesus regns is for ever and ever not a thousand years.on earth. the verse agrees with Hebrews 10:12 does it not. I happen to like you and chris because of your respect for Gods word.
I guess God's word is incorrect and you and your link are correct then.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
no Gods word is correct ; as the verse says Jesus regns is for ever and ever not a thousand years.on earth. the verse agrees with Hebrews 10:12 does it not. I happen to like you and chris because of your respect for Gods word.
You are making a big mistake when you take what is literal and call it figuative that is not how God intened his words to be read he himself translates what is literal and what is figurative just because the book has both literal and figuative language does not mean you can write off the entire book as one or the other. The bible interpts itself if you let it to make these assumptions is just plain misinterpting scripture.There is layer upon layer of teaching you are missing it all by your assumptions
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