My Covid19 Conspiracy Theory

[Angelina]

I think that there are countries who are not recording the people who have the virus and those who have died. The reason being that they want to get back up and running economically and they don't want the stigma of having the virus or deaths within the masses of their country because it will not be good for future tourism or for their economy.

You may be wandering how a country is able to do this - again, just a theory.
They can do this by not recording deaths correctly and putting it down as pneumonia or something similar. That means it would not be tallied with the rest of the count re:covid19

The numbers would look good on paper but would not be a true assessment. I believe China had done this and I'm sure that others have done so as well.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I think that there are countries who are not recording the people who have the virus and those who have died. The reason being that they want to get back up and running economically and they don't want the stigma of having the virus or deaths within the masses of their country because it will not be good for future tourism or for their economy.

You may be wandering how a country is able to do this - again, just a theory.
They can do this by not recording deaths correctly and putting it down as pneumonia or something similar. That means it would not be tallied with the rest of the count re:covid19

The numbers would look good on paper but would not be a true assessment. I believe China had done this and I'm sure that others have done so as well.

I think you're right. At the same time, I think that the U.S. has been over reporting Covid-19 deaths. IOW, I believe that some deaths not caused by the virus have been attributed to it.... I don't think we'll ever get an accurate picture of the number of deaths this virus has caused.

 

[Enoch111]

They can do this by not recording deaths correctly and putting it down as pneumonia or something similar.

This is what has been done in the USA for flu. Deaths from pneumonia were made into flu deaths to inflate the count and promote the vaccine. Very shifty and very nefarious. Now some states are doing the same thing for non-COVID deaths and making them into COVID deaths to inflate the figures. CDC cannot be trusted any longer.

 

[Mama Etna]

I believe you are right. As a general rule, I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this one sounds plausible. China has done things under the table for a while.

 

[Angelina]

I think you're right. At the same time, I think that the U.S. has been over reporting Covid-19 deaths. IOW, I believe that some deaths not caused by the virus have been attributed to it.... I don't think we'll ever get an accurate picture of the number of deaths this virus has caused.

Good point but why @Prayer Warrior would the US do that when it would not be to their benefit? You would think they would also be looking at lessening those numbers so that they can get back to business as usual. They have not done a total locked down like my country and some states are wanting to get back to work despite the pandemic.

 

[farouk]

Good point but why @Prayer Warrior would the US do that when it would not be to their benefit? You would think they would also be looking at lessening those numbers so that they can get back to business as usual. They have not done a total locked down like my country and some states are wanting to get back to work despite the pandemic.

@Angelina I guess the severity of C19 differs around the world, as does the response to it in various jurisdictions. Even Canada with its various provinces did not respond identically in each province.

 

[Angelina]

I believe you are right. As a general rule, I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this one sounds plausible. China has done things under the table for a while.

It would be easy enough to put out incorrect numbers even if they have come in correctly by those who are tallying up the numbers coming through the hospitals, med centres etc. They all go to the same place to be counted. All they need to do is have control over that area. No-one is going to double check because it would just be numbers. Even if the data collected had someone name next to it, what nurse or Dr would ring that main collection agency to find out if mr A has been recorded??

 

[farouk]

It would be easy enough to put out incorrect numbers even if they have come in correctly by those who are tallying up the numbers coming through the hospitals, med centres etc. They all go to the same place to be counted. All they need to do is have control over that area. No-one is going to double check because it would just be numbers. Even if the data collected had someone name next to it, what nurse or Dr would ring that main collection agency to find out if mr A has been recorded??

@Angelina The situation can be complicated in countries where federal and state/province legislated health responsibilities are already divided by law; I think in NZ you have a unitary state, don't you?

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina I guess the severity of C19 differs around the world, as does the response to it in various jurisdictions. Even Canada with its various provinces did not respond identically in each province.

I personally don't think America is hiding anything where it comes to those numbers and yes, it may be inflated but the only reason I could thinkg of [based on my conspiracy theory mind] is that certain parties are trying to make Trump look like a doofus.

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina The situation can be complicated in countries where federal and state/province legislated health responsibilities are already divided by law; I think in NZ you have a unitary state, don't you?

I had to google "Unitary State because we are not an actual state...We vote and that party gets into power but our voting is MMP. We have a Parliament who holds 120 seats. The winning party must make up over 50 % of those seats. MMP allows a party to make up the rest of the seats [if they are still below the threshold] using minor parties that they have made agreements with...does that make sense?

We are basically liberal democrats I guess???

 

[farouk]

I personally don't think America is hiding anything where it comes to those numbers and yes, it may be inflated but the only reason I could thinkg of [based on my conspiracy theory mind] is that certain parties are trying to make Trump look like a doofus.

@Angelina I remember when Saigon fell in '75. Why? because, although US forces had already left, Congress pulled the funding of the South Vietnamese in order to make the Republicans look bad. In other words, domestic politics. What you suspect wouldn't surprise me; although the virus itself is indeed very dangerous, and some of us with existing lung issues are very susceptible to ill effects from any contamination.

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina I remember when Saigon fell in '75. Why? because, although US forces had already left, Congress pulled the funding of the South Vietnamese in order to make the Republicans look bad. In other words, domestic politics. What you suspect wouldn't surprise me; although the virus itself is indeed very dangerous, and some of us with existing lung issues are very susceptible to ill effects from any contamination.

Brother, who is this congress... I think Iv'e got the gist. Thank you

 

[farouk]

Brother, who is this congress... I think Iv'e got the gist. Thank you

@Angelina US House of Representative and US Senate; in the US system it's the Federal legislature which has strict separation of powers from the Executive, headed by the President.

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina US House of Representative and US Senate; in the US system it's the Federal legislature which has strict separation of powers from the Executive, headed by the President.

Brother, we follow the Westminster parliamentary system of govt and we do have executive, legislative and judicial branches but we do not have a federal govt system and noo upper house. I think Aussie has states and a federal system but we are too small. Our whole country is smaller than the Queensland state of Australia

 

[Joseph77]

although the virus itself is indeed very dangerous, and some of us with existing lung issues are very susceptible to ill effects from any contamination.

Baby steps (little by little) .....

Do you believe that any of the body and mind and soul of a young healthy person is at risk of danger from the so-called virus (even if it is a real virus, whether naturally occurring or manmade/designed) ?

 

[Enoch111]

I believe you are right. As a general rule, I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this one sounds plausible. China has done things under the table for a while.

CHINA TRIED TO PATENT POTENTIAL CORONAVIRUS DRUG REMSVIDIR THE DAY AFTER BEIJING CONFIRMED VIRUS WAS TRANSMISSABLE BETWEEN HUMANS
China’s understanding of the virus was far advanced from the impression given by its public stance

Daily Mail - APRIL 26, 2020

China filed a patent for a drug seen as one of the best potential weapons against coronavirus the day after it confirmed human transmission of the disease.

The revelation that it moved so fast fuels concerns about a cover-up of the pandemic when it erupted in Wuhan last year, and suggests that China’s understanding of the virus was far advanced from the impression given by its public stance.

Last night, Tom Tugendhat, chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, joined the growing global clamour for a full, independent inquiry into China’s role.

‘It is quite clear there is an awful lot that we don’t know about the emergence of this disease and the responses to it,’ he said. ‘We all need to learn the lessons of the outbreak so the international community can respond better in the future.’

Full 4/22/2020 press conference in Bakersfield California with Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi

China’s Communist Party leaders face accusations that they suppressed data, blocked public health teams from investigating, silenced doctors seeking to warn the world about the epidemic and delayed admitting there was human transmission.

The contagious nature of the virus was confirmed by President Xi Jinping on January 20. Leaked documents have shown that even after officials knew they faced an epidemic, they delayed warning the public for six days.

On January 21, a patent for commercial use of Remdesivir – a drug initially created by an American pharmaceutical firm to fight ebola – was filed in China.

The application was made by Wuhan Institute of Virology, the top-secret bio-laboratory at the centre of concerns about a possible leak of the disease from its research on bats, and the country’s Military Medicine Institute.

China tried to patent potential coronavirus drug Remsvidir the DAY AFTER Beijing confirmed virus was transmissable between humans

In another news item, here is more damning evidence:

Federal agencies and numerous media outlets have confirmed that Chinese and CDC test kits are contaminated with the coronavirus. Is this a deliberate action to exacerbate the crisis and keep American on lockdown? Watch the full breakdown below!

 

[Episkopos]

1. The pandemic is about a bad strain of flu that affects compromised immune systems in mainly older people.
2. Almost all the world's leaders are older people with somewhat compromised immune systems (if not consciences!)
3. They get to shut everything down because they can because they are afraid to get it.


Just a theory of course! ;)

 

[Joseph77]

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QUOTE="Angelina, post: 730832, member: 3579"]I think that there are countries who are not recording the people who have the virus and those who have died. The reason being that they want to get back up and running economically and they don't want the stigma of having the virus or deaths within the masses of their country because it will not be good for future tourism or for their economy.

You may be wandering how a country is able to do this - again, just a theory.
They can do this by not recording deaths correctly and putting it down as pneumonia or something similar. That means it would not be tallied with the rest of the count re:covid19

The numbers would look good on paper but would not be a true assessment. I believe China had done this and I'm sure that others have done so as well.[/QUOTE
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Biblically, there is no reason to trust any country. (or religion).
Trusting what the Bible says not to trust, brings a curse, all the time.

 

[Mama Etna]

I am a healthy individual, so for me it's just another flu bug. I can't tell it from the flu.

 

[Joseph77]

When ever could something controlled by funding (love of money) be trusted ? !

This is what has been done in the USA for flu. Deaths from pneumonia were made into flu deaths to inflate the count and promote the vaccine. Very shifty and very nefarious. Now some states are doing the same thing for non-COVID deaths and making them into COVID deaths to inflate the figures. CDC cannot be trusted any longer.