Mystery Babylon the Mother of Harlots

[mjrhealth]

Jesus will return for His Bride, His Ecclesia. His called out ones, a bride spotless and without blemish, than there is the other one, the man made church, the great whore and her children the littlle harlots, all who claim to be His bride all who are worldly and whom have slandered His Name and have given Him a bad reputation, but He will judge them as He said He would, God will not be mocked, all that was hidden is now being revealed, but still they wont come out. His Bride is in the wilderness, being taken care of by Him being taught by Him, the ywill not soil there clothes in mens religion.

In all His Love

 

[iamlamad]

If Jerusalem is Babylon - and it is completely destroyed - then it cannot be the capital of the Millenial world ,when there actually will be a one world government.

Why do you think it was called MYSTERY Babylon? It could be totally destroyed and stay that way forever, but the physical city can and will be rebuilt. But the Mystery Babylon, as the great whore that deceived the ENTIRE WORLD, it will be destroyed never to rise again. So two descriptions of the very same city, one the physical city, the other a great whore that deceived the entire world. No deception ever in the history of the planet has or will ever come close to this deception that fools the entire world.
Lamad

Yes.but no one knows for sure.while you say jerusalem,i say it was rome.many people on this forum think differently.

You should know by now, many people ignore scriptures that go against their doctrines. I only quoted what John Himself wrote. If you choose not to believe it, you have that right. But in the end, you will find out the intent of the Author is Jerusalem. The entire bible is centered on Jerusalem. Jesus will rule and reign for 1000 years from Jerusalem. Why do you think the devil trys so hard to destroy it? Truthfully, there is simply no other city in the world the Antichrist would go to, since he comes "in the place" of the real Messiah.

I know, so many read "The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits" and they ignore "and there are seven kings. The meaning of the seven mountains are seven SIGNIFICANT nations, each with a King. If you start counting the nations that touch Israel, you will have many of the seven. Lamad

 

[daq]

It is an allegorical tale of two women which are two cities, (of above and of below) which are two covenants.
The one sees according to mind and eyes of the Spirit but the other according to the mind and eyes of the Flesh.

Those seeing the "Old Covenant" (renewed) according to the Spirit of Torah teachings of Yeshua are a holy priesthood:

Exodus 28:36-38 KJV
36. And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, and grave upon it, like the engravings of a signet, HOLINESS TO THE LORD.
37. And thou shalt put it on a blue lace, that it may be upon the mitre; upon the forefront of the mitre it shall be.
38. And it shall be upon Aaron's forehead, that Aaron may bear the iniquity of the holy things, which the children of Israel shall hallow in all their holy gifts; and it shall be always upon his forehead, that they may be accepted before the Lord.

Those seeing the "Old Covenant" (or "abolishing it" in their minds) according to the "old man" eyes and mind of the flesh:

Revelation 17:4-5 KJV
4. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5. And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Cities do not have literal flesh that may be burned with fire and eaten:

Revelation 17:16-18 KJV
16. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The man himself is "the earth", "the house", "the temple", and "a cistern", and "a city", and his own "false prophet" voices with their doctrines and their beastly natures are like unclean spirit kings. His eyes of the flesh, mind of the flesh, mouth of the flesh, with its smallest member the tongue, which is itself a "little horn" of magnificent power which lights on fire the flames of hell speaking all of its evils, rumors, and crafty things: All this flesh must be burned to the ground, melted, dissolved, even in some cases while the man stands upon his own two feet, (Zechariah 14). If it were not so the man would never be capable of seeing the truth of the new supernal Way in Messiah. Many at prophecy forums seem to have a strong desire to be the first to foretell at least the approximate "the end of the age" for everyone else, or at least to feel one day as if they were used to help warn somebody about its coming, (which can be a noble thing I suppose) but which of you will be the first to foretell the END OF HIMSELF and subsequent birth into the Kingdom, as a son, even a brother in the brethren of Yeshua? (He was not ashamed to call the great congregation his brethren). Not one of you will succeed in such a task and yet it will come BEFORE the end of the world as we know it; and no man knows the day or the hour, and no man ever has even though it has been occurring to each in his or her own appointed times for nearly two thousand years: for the natural man always looks outside of himself for the causes of all the problems of his world, watching for all of the wrong signs according to the mind, eyes, and doctrines of the flesh, in the physical world of the man. The signs are all spiritual and supernal because the Kingdom of God is within us; and if indeed God dwells within us then your "outer boundaries" are like the "city walls" encompassing roundabout his temple complex. Therefore do not allow the walls of your city to be "breached" by the king of Babylon; neither those seven heathen "mountains" with their kings and with their doctrines.

 

[veteran]

I would be interested in your understandin of these verses.

I don't think you're that interested really, but for the sake of others I will give answer.

The 2 Thess.2 Scripture has nothing... about a Pre-trib secret rapture.

And the reason for the "strong delusion" according to Paul there, is because of the deceived who would rather believe "a lie" and had pleasure in unrighteousness...and... because they received NOT the love of the truth...


II Th 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(KJV)


Where the sick joke is, is in your reference to 2 Thess.2 and a Pre-trib Rapture when Apostle Paul actually declares in that Scripture Christ's second coming and the gathering of His Church to be after... the working of that false one.



II Th 2:1-4
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(KJV)


II Th 2:8
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
(KJV)


The Scripture is very clear that the Antichrist (i.e., man of sin, son of perdition, that Wicked), is to come first to do his thing PRIOR to Christ's coming and the gathering of His Church. That verse 8 above is solid on that point, can't be missed.

That's why what you've said is a sick joke. And it is being played upon you, and those of like mind with you.

But, you CAN choose to stop listening to men's doctrines, an error which you instead are heeding for your mind to have gotten in the state of refusing what Apostle Paul actually said in that 2 Thess.2 Scripture.

The prophet john gives us a clue,who babylon is.Revelation17:9 "And here is the mind which hath wisdom,the seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth." Italy,jerusalem,and babylon under nebuchanezzar were all Known as countries with seven hills.

So you can narrow it down to these 3 countries.

I say it was Rome,because they were responsible for the deaths of many of the early christians.including Jesus.

Problem with that is that those responsible for the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus were the Pharisees, scribes, and priests of the Jews. It was Jews that went up to seek recourse from the Roman Pilate. And Pilate saw no fault in Jesus.

So the blame Rome game just ain't gonna' get 'er done. It's a red herring.


Rev 18:24
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
(KJV)

1Thes 2:14-15
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
(KJV)

Acts 7:51-54
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of Whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
(KJV)

Luke 11:44-51
44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
45 Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also.
46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.
49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
(KJV)


This is another reason why the Babylon Harlot of Revelation is pointing to the city of Jerusalem and the unbelieving Jews.

 

[Pelaides]

Why do you think it was called MYSTERY Babylon? It could be totally destroyed and stay that way forever, but the physical city can and will be rebuilt. But the Mystery Babylon, as the great whore that deceived the ENTIRE WORLD, it will be destroyed never to rise again. So two descriptions of the very same city, one the physical city, the other a great whore that deceived the entire world. No deception ever in the history of the planet has or will ever come close to this deception that fools the entire world.
Lamad


You should know by now, many people ignore scriptures that go against their doctrines. I only quoted what John Himself wrote. If you choose not to believe it, you have that right. But in the end, you will find out the intent of the Author is Jerusalem. The entire bible is centered on Jerusalem. Jesus will rule and reign for 1000 years from Jerusalem. Why do you think the devil trys so hard to destroy it? Truthfully, there is simply no other city in the world the Antichrist would go to, since he comes "in the place" of the real Messiah.

I know, so many read "The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits" and they ignore "and there are seven kings. The meaning of the seven mountains are seven SIGNIFICANT nations, each with a King. If you start counting the nations that touch Israel, you will have many of the seven. Lamad

You may be right,i may be wrong.But Emperor Nero fit the profile of the antichrist.

I don't think you're that interested really, but for the sake of others I will give answer.

The 2 Thess.2 Scripture has nothing... about a Pre-trib secret rapture.

And the reason for the "strong delusion" according to Paul there, is because of the deceived who would rather believe "a lie" and had pleasure in unrighteousness...and... because they received NOT the love of the truth...

II Th 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(KJV)


Where the sick joke is, is in your reference to 2 Thess.2 and a Pre-trib Rapture when Apostle Paul actually declares in that Scripture Christ's second coming and the gathering of His Church to be after... the working of that false one.


II Th 2:1-4
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(KJV)

II Th 2:8
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
(KJV)


The Scripture is very clear that the Antichrist (i.e., man of sin, son of perdition, that Wicked), is to come first to do his thing PRIOR to Christ's coming and the gathering of His Church. That verse 8 above is solid on that point, can't be missed.

That's why what you've said is a sick joke. And it is being played upon you, and those of like mind with you.

But, you CAN choose to stop listening to men's doctrines, an error which you instead are heeding for your mind to have gotten in the state of refusing what Apostle Paul actually said in that 2 Thess.2 Scripture.



Problem with that is that those responsible for the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus were the Pharisees, scribes, and priests of the Jews. It was Jews that went up to seek recourse from the Roman Pilate. And Pilate saw no fault in Jesus.

So the blame Rome game just ain't gonna' get 'er done. It's a red herring.

Rev 18:24
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
(KJV)

1Thes 2:14-15
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
(KJV)

Acts 7:51-54
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of Whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
(KJV)

Luke 11:44-51
44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
45 Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also.
46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.
49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
(KJV)


This is another reason why the Babylon Harlot of Revelation is pointing to the city of Jerusalem and the unbelieving Jews.

The Romans,had the power to set Jesus free,and they didnt.Remember Herod tried to kill Jesus when he was a baby,the jews had nothing to do with that.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Revelation 17:21-24
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall [SIZE=14pt]that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.[/SIZE]
22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Mystery Babylon will never be rebuilt but Jerusalem will.

 

[veteran]

You may be right,i may be wrong.But Emperor Nero fit the profile of the antichrist.

The Romans,had the power to set Jesus free,and they didnt.Remember Herod tried to kill Jesus when he was a baby,the jews had nothing to do with that.

Study some more. Herod was an Idumean raised as a JEW (i.e., Idumeans were those of Edom that converted to the Jew's religion and lived in Judea after Judah was given to destroy the nation of Edom). Herod followed his own ambitions, which is how he connects with being established by the Romans over Judea. Thus Herod was not Roman.

As for the Scripture I posted, it proves how the Jews were against Christ Jesus, and also reveals partly that those Jews of the scribes, Pharisees, etc., were actually crept in unawares of other peoples.

If one does not understand early Bible history when God told Israel to destroy the nations of Canaan, and they failed, and then God said He would use those pagan Canaanites to test His people with, then one will never... understand the crept in unawares that caused Israel to fall away from God many times afterwards, including at the time of our Lord Jesus' first coming when those sought to murder Him.

 

[Brothertom]

1 Peter 5:13
"She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son."

In this instance we see that Babylon was known as a geographical entity; Rome...which became the seat of Satan after Babylon, the Medes, & Greece fell. Babylon itself is, & always has been a Satanic & organized worship system, & you could call it a spirit. There were 1,300 satanic temples in Rome at the time of Paul & the early church. Rome became the seat of Satan.

There were over 100 "demon days" in ancient Babylon; all celebrated on a particular day of the year...with some having week long feasts & orgies attached....& these exact same "holy days", were celebrated by the Roman Universal Church....[ Catholic, the Latin rendition of everyone, everywhere...].

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.​

[SIZE=.75em]" [/SIZE]I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement."
Sorcery is accomplished at the Vatican.
"For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. [SIZE=.75em] [/SIZE]And in her...[ Babylon, the Roman Catholic church...] was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”....all the way back to before Egypt...Babylon, formerly Babel, has been at war with God's people....& will to the last day...until the Beast, Islam, slays her...& Babylonian America with her....& every vestige world-wide of her.

Something to consider...."Come out of her my people!"..This is a spiritual thing; not tolerating Jezebel or the exaltation of men. Babylon is real.

 

[veteran]

I say... study the Ezekiel 8 & 9 chapters. They are for TODAY.

Ezekiel 8 shows how many of God's people have succumbed to paganism and pagan god worship. It also reveals how a final temple in Jerusalem will exist in the last days in order to carry on pagan practices to the hilt, especially with the image of jealousy that will be setup there in Jerusalem by the coming pseudo-Christ.

Then Ezekiel 9 shows God sealing His servants just prior to sending in His angels to destroy all those that don't have His 'mark', the word 'mark' there pointing to the last Hebrew letter tau which in ancient Paleo-Hebrew was made as a 'cross'. And God said there to start the judgment at His sanctuary.

Those are chapters in God's Word that also reveals the near-future goings-on to occur in Jerusalem just prior to Christ's second coming to judge the great whore Babylon The Great, pointing directly to Jerusalem in a fallen pagan worship state for the end of this world.

How else does the Revelation description of "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT" point to paganism and false worship?

Firstly, the Greek term for "MYSTERY" points to the idea of 'mysteries' and occult initiation. There are two sets of 'mysteries', one are the true Mysteries of The Kingdom of God. The other set is a false set of mysteries Satan established to try and usurp God's Mysteries of The Kingdom.

The birth place of the ancient pagan 'mysteries' was... guess where? Ancient Sumer-Babylon. That is where king Sargon I first instituted the worship of Lucifer. The ancients Sumerians even called Sargon "son of Bel the just". Bel was the ancient pagan god of the Sumerians and Babylonians. Baal is a derivative of the term.

From ancient Babylon the pagan 'mystery schools' spread to the known ancient parts of the world, to Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome, basically the early great civilization centers recorded in The Old Testament. Each one taught their own particular brand of the 'mysteries' which sprang from ancient pagan Bel, the religion of ancient Sumer-Babylon.

In later centuries these 'mysteries' would continue into the West, but were reduced to hiding when Christ's Church came to power in western nations. So-called 'secret societies' would form to hide these ancient pagan mystery religious practices and would occasionally manifest publically that required a strong hand from Christ's Church to subdue them.

In the last days God showed that the power of His people would be removed, and those pagans who follow the mysteries of Lucifer have been given more power and now manifest 'openly' in today's world, among governments, within some churches even with inviting other religions to put on shows to their congregations. Secular movements are not really secular, but pagan religious movements in disguise.

That's who Lucifer is leading, and who they worship, just as Sargon did in ancient Sumer. So afterall, there really is NOT that much of a disconnect between ancient history recorded in Old Testament times and today. This God's people should... be able to understand for today, it is very important to fathom. If you do not know... how these followers of Lucifer worked among God's people back in Old Testament times, then you will not be as able to understand what they are up to today. But be certain, they are still in operation, and will come into complete control over all nations and this earth just prior to Christ's return, and the culmination of their working will happen with the final Antichrist to appear in Jerusalem in our near future.

Thusly, if you seem to understand the idea of "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT" as something more than just the "great city" (i.e., Jerusalem in a fallen pagan worship state), then this system of the 'mysteries' instituted from Lucifer himself to his servants on earth is that OTHER part of the "MYSTERY".

 

[Pelaides]

Study some more. Herod was an Idumean raised as a JEW (i.e., Idumeans were those of Edom that converted to the Jew's religion and lived in Judea after Judah was given to destroy the nation of Edom). Herod followed his own ambitions, which is how he connects with being established by the Romans over Judea. Thus Herod was not Roman.

As for the Scripture I posted, it proves how the Jews were against Christ Jesus, and also reveals partly that those Jews of the scribes, Pharisees, etc., were actually crept in unawares of other peoples.

If one does not understand early Bible history when God told Israel to destroy the nations of Canaan, and they failed, and then God said He would use those pagan Canaanites to test His people with, then one will never... understand the crept in unawares that caused Israel to fall away from God many times afterwards, including at the time of our Lord Jesus' first coming when those sought to murder Him.

If this is true then you should write a book,Title it "Herod the Jew",because i have never heard of this before.I will research this on the internet,thanks for the information.

 

[iamlamad]

I say... study the Ezekiel 8 & 9 chapters. They are for TODAY.

Ezekiel 8 shows how many of God's people have succumbed to paganism and pagan god worship. It also reveals how a final temple in Jerusalem will exist in the last days in order to carry on pagan practices to the hilt, especially with the image of jealousy that will be setup there in Jerusalem by the coming pseudo-Christ.
...

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This spiritual experience of Ezekiel where He was taken to see the temple, was the temple THEN, around 590 BC. God was showing Ezekiel all the false religion that was THEN happening in Israel. It is no wonder they were carried away to Babylon! Finally, Ezekiel saw the presence of God LEAVE the Holy Place, leave the temple, and finally leave the city. It is one of the saddest stories in the entire bible.

Lamad

 

[veteran]

If this is true then you should write a book,Title it "Herod the Jew",because i have never heard of this before.I will research this on the internet,thanks for the information.

Doesn't mean Herod faithfully followed Judaism. His family were converted Jews in Judea after Judah conquered Edom. Herod's lineage was from Esau. Read Josephus' histories.

This spiritual experience of Ezekiel where He was taken to see the temple, was the temple THEN, around 590 BC. God was showing Ezekiel all the false religion that was THEN happening in Israel. It is no wonder they were carried away to Babylon! Finally, Ezekiel saw the presence of God LEAVE the Holy Place, leave the temple, and finally leave the city. It is one of the saddest stories in the entire bible.

Lamad

NO, it was NOT.

God took Ezekiel by The Spirit and gave him a VISION. It was much in the same order of revelation like Apostle John was given.

Ezekiel 9 is where Peter was referring to where God's judgment for the end of this world will begin.

1 Pet 4:17
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
(KJV)

Ezek 9:6
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at My sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
(KJV)


Also, God's mark is a major subject for the end in Revelation 7 and 9.
Rev 7:3-4
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
(KJV)

Furthermore, the destruction of Jerusalem was a judgment from God via king Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and not the angels of Ezek.9 and the 'mark' which is similar to the order of the plagues in Egypt when the blood of the passover was marked on the doorposts to protect the children of Israel.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

[SIZE=14pt]Mystery Babylon the Mother of Harlots[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]After the appearing of Jesus in the air and the catching up of the church there will be great fear in the formerly Christian nations. All the churches will be full of scared people. This will give great power to the remaining church leaders. Mystery Babylon will be an ecumenical apostate Christian church that has the political power to tell the kings of the western powers what to do. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]2 Thessalonians 6-12 tells us that God will cause all the people who have heard the truth of the gospel of Jesus and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of the antichrist. The antichrist will come to power in the 11th horn or colony of Europe that is strong enough to take control of NATO. I believe America will be the kingdom of antichrist because of God's judgment.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]Where ever the western powers devour the earth the apostate church will be put over the people.[/SIZE]

Eric,

When one does a word search of harlot/whore in the bible, they will find that the only harlot God mentions with concern is Jerusalem. That is the one who went a whoring after other gods.

Doesn't mean Herod faithfully followed Judaism. His family were converted Jews in Judea after Judah conquered Edom. Herod's lineage was from Esau. Read Josephus' histories.


NO, it was NOT.

God took Ezekiel by The Spirit and gave him a VISION. It was much in the same order of revelation like Apostle John was given.

Ezekiel 9 is where Peter was referring to where God's judgment for the end of this world will begin.

1 Pet 4:17
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
(KJV)

Ezek 9:6
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at My sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
(KJV)


Also, God's mark is a major subject for the end in Revelation 7 and 9.
Rev 7:3-4
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
(KJV)

Furthermore, the destruction of Jerusalem was a judgment from God via king Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and not the angels of Ezek.9 and the 'mark' which is similar to the order of the plagues in Egypt when the blood of the passover was marked on the doorposts to protect the children of Israel.

Veteran,

Good scriptural response. Nothing to add to that.

 

[veteran]

I've got more to add to that...


Ezek 8:2-5
2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of His loins even downward, fire; and from His loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3 And He put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
5 Then said He unto me, "Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north." So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
(KJV)


What do you think that "image of jealousy" at the north of the sanctuary is which God showed Ezekiel there by vision?

It is an idol abomination. It is a description of the "abomination of desolation" our Lord Jesus warned us about for the very end of this world per Matt.24 and Mark 13 and Rev.13.

In Ezekiel 9, God's sealing "mark" upon His servants is Hebrew 'tav', the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. In ancient Paleo-Hebrew script it was rendered in the form of a cross, like an X. Is that a coincidence that it aligns with the idea of Christ's cross? I don't think it's an accident. I think God made it so on purpose. For us today it represents being sealed through Faith on The Father through His Son Jesus Christ our Passover sacrificed for us (1 Cor.5:7).

So when you study Rev.7 & 9 about the idea of being sealed with a mark, either with Satan's mark or with God's mark, this lets us know what kind of 'mark' God's sealing mark is, pointing directly to our Lord Jesus Christ and His Blood shed upon the cross. And once again, I know God doesn't make these kind of symbolic associations in His Word by mistake.

There are many little tid-bits like this written back in The Old Testament prophets that many have missed simply because of not bearing down to study The Old Testament Books. The Ezekiel 40 through 48 chapters have not even happened yet today, as they are for Christ's future Milennium reign and thereafter. If your preacher is telling you different, then you might ought check him out more thoroughly to find out where his real stance is coming from.