Mystery Babylon-Understanding the imagery

[Earburner]

The Bible says the AC is a man, not a system.

Remember the verse about the 666 number of a man?

You are in fantasy land. In the KJV, the number is not written numerically but rather in written form as "six hundred, threescore and six", which is ONLY A REFERENCE to 1 Kings 10:14, so that you may learn something from a man of wisdom. Yes! It is the number of a man called Solomon.
[14] Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

Gold today IS MONEY!
Have you ever heard of "Universal Basic Income"?
Several countries have been running pilot programs to try it out. Yes, free money $500-2000 per month, no matter who, with no questions asked.
Google it.

 

[Earburner]

There are not 2 Jerusalems in Revelation.

Rev. 14[8] And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev. 21[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 

[Earburner]

The first beast rising all of the waters is the AC.

I informed you before, that in the KJV, there is no word "the" in front of any word "antichrist". The KJV speaks of it in the plural, not the singular, which is the case for the new modern "fake" bibles.
In 1 John 5 there is "that spirit of antichrist", which is speaking of many, as in plural.

 

[CoreIssue]

You are in fantasy land. In the KJV, the number is not written numerically but rather in written form as "six hundred, threescore and six", which is ONLY A REFERENCE to 1 Kings 10:14, so that you may learn something from a man of wisdom. Yes! It is the number of a man called Solomon.
[14] Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

Gold today IS MONEY!
Have you ever heard of "Universal Basic Income"?
Several countries have been running pilot programs to try it out. Yes, free money $500-2000 per month, no matter who, with no questions asked.
Google it.

Revelation 13:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[CoreIssue]

Rev. 14[8] And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev. 21[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

First is Rome.

Second is the New Jerusalem in heaven.

 

[CoreIssue]

I informed you before, that in the KJV, there is no word "the" in front of any word "antichrist". The KJV speaks of it in the plural, not the singular, which is the case for the new modern "fake" bibles.
In 1 John 5 there is "that spirit of antichrist", which is speaking of many, as in plural.

And I showed you in the Bible you are wrong.

You're going to get nowhere quoting the KJV exclusively.

 

[BreadOfLife]

BTW, so that you can get yourself Biblically lined up (KJV), only Jerusalem was known as the "great" city.
As for a location, do you see anything of the word "Great" being used in Rev. (KJV) except for Jerusalem?
I didn't think so!

It's NO use trying to get CoreIssue to debate on his own.
ALL he ever uses are those asinine anti-Catholic videos. It's the reason his own debate site died and he came here looking for new members.

Looks like SOMEbody forgot to tell him that the Vatican is NOT built on the "Seven Hills" of Rome.
Also looks like SOMEbody forgot to tell him that the "Great City/Faithful City" that became a "Harlot" is apostate Jerusalem (Isaiah 1:21).

CoreIssue is as Scripturally-bankrupt as he is linguistically and historically-ignorant . . .

 

[Earburner]

Revelation 13:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Yeah, OK! Now use your brain in understanding that Rev. 13:18 IS A REFERENCE to 1 Kings 10:14, so that you can LEARN something from "...a man", "who hath wisdom", and had THAT NUMBER!!
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What will you learn?
Ans. Solomon was FREELY GIVEN 666 talents of gold IN ONE YEAR. Now go Google about "Universal Basic Income" and learn what that is.
Learn!!! And stop swallowing regurgitated religious SLOP!

 

[Earburner]

It's NO use trying to get CoreIssue to debate on his own.
ALL he ever uses are those asinine anti-Catholic videos. It's the reason his own debate site died and he came here looking for new members.

Looks like SOMEbody forgot to tell him that the Vatican is NOT built on the "Seven Hills" of Rome.
Also looks like SOMEbody forgot to tell him that the "Great City/Faithful City" that became a "Harlot" is apostate Jerusalem (Isaiah 1:21).

CoreIssue is as Scripturally-bankrupt as he is linguistically and historically-ignorant . . .

I AGREE!!
And I have been trying help him see that!

 

[CoreIssue]

I AGREE!!
And I have been trying help him see that!

No, you are defending Catholicism.

 

[Earburner]

First is Rome.

Second is the New Jerusalem in heaven.

Really???
Did you think that the only people that ever lived is NOW and the brief future this world has left?
Get a grip!!
Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD
The book of Rev. was written in 96AD.
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Both the Christians and the Jews, living then, needed to be reminded, that the words of Jesus had been fulfilled.
Luke 19[41] And when he was come near, he beheld the city [Jerusalem], and wept over it,
[42] Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
[43] For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
[44] And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

 

[CoreIssue]

Really???
Did you think that the only people that ever lived is NOW and the brief future this world has left?
Get a grip!!
Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD
The book of Rev. was written in 96AD.
.
Both the Christians and the Jews, living then, needed to be reminded, that the words of Jesus had been fulfilled.
Luke 19[41] And when he was come near, he beheld the city [Jerusalem], and wept over it,
[42] Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
[43] For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
[44] And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

I get it, you are catholic.

 

[Earburner]

No, you are defending Catholicism.

I defend no Religion! But I do preach the Lord's truth as He has "guided" me.
If you listen to me long enough, I will at times sound to be Baptist, Methodist, JW, Catholic, Lutheran, etc. etc. WHY?
"No one single church has all of the truth, but all of the churches do have some of the truth."- Earburner

 

[Earburner]

And I showed you in the Bible you are wrong.

You're going to get nowhere quoting the KJV exclusively.

And you will get confusion by studying the many "fake bibles", that have been translated from the Westcott and Hort Greek.

 

[CoreIssue]

I defend no Religion! But I do preach the Lord's truth as He has "guided" me.
If you listen to me long enough, I will at times sound to be Baptist, Methodist, JW, Catholic, Lutheran, etc. etc. WHY?
"No one single church has all of the truth, but all of the churches do have some of the truth."- Earburner

 

[CoreIssue]

And you will get confusion by studying the many "fake bibles", that have been translated from the Westcott and Hort Greek.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Jerusalem sits on seven hills.
If it weren't for the Rothchilds (Illuminati), Israel and the city of Jerusalem would not be what it is today. God has not ordained "her" to be a blessing for the nations, but rather judged her, and is now a curse, ever since 70AD.
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For all intent and purposes, by God's thoughts and ways, "she" should not exist.
Dan. 9
[27] And he [Jesus] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week
he [Jesus] shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he [Jesus] shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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The KoG was taken from "her".
But, since "she" does now exist in the eyes of men, according to God, she now is "Mystery Babylon the Great, the MOTHER of harlots".

No--it cannot be Jerusalem--for lots of reasons. For one, it is the "City of the Great King". And who is that Great King? Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will set up His Kingdom there. Once the Antichrist destroys Rome, he will try to move his headquarters to Jerusalem but he will not succeed. Mystery Babylon is ALL false religion that will come under some kind of umbrella organization. There is only one religion powerful enough to subsume all other religions into itself--it is headquartered in its own independent state in the Italian peninsula.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

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Yeah--"Earburner" quoting himself is a bit over the top.;)

 

[Earburner]

No--it cannot be Jerusalem--for lots of reasons. For one, it is the "City of the Great King". And who is that Great King? Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will set up His Kingdom there. Once the Antichrist destroys Rome, he will try to move his headquarters to Jerusalem but he will not succeed. Mystery Babylon is ALL false religion that will come under some kind of umbrella organization--there is only one religion powerful enough to subsume all other religions into itself.

If you can't read and comprehend what I previously wrote to "coreissue", why should I repeat it to a "siamese twin" like yourself, who is speaking the same religious trash as him.

 

[Earburner]

No--it cannot be Jerusalem--for lots of reasons. For one, it is the "City of the Great King". And who is that Great King? Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will set up His Kingdom there. Once the Antichrist destroys Rome, he will try to move his headquarters to Jerusalem but he will not succeed. Mystery Babylon is ALL false religion that will come under some kind of umbrella organization--there is only one religion powerful enough to subsume all other religions into itself.

News flash!! It ONCE WAS the city of the Great King!
Ever since 70AD, Jesus is no longer responsible for the Jerusalem that now is!

Jesus has set up His kingdom already, in those who are "born again" of God's Holy Spirit.
Remember? "My kingdom is not of this world".

"Mystery Babylon the Great", is still a Mystery to you, even though I emphasized it for you.