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Lady Crosstalk

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What was Jesus all about, with a whip in His hand, in the temple?
And again, when was He ever pleasant with the religious Pharisees?

He was exercising His role as God and judge of all the earth at the time--in His zeal for protecting the holiness of the Temple. You are not Him and have no such mission. All followers of Christ were given the mission of telling the world about Him in thought, word and deed.
 

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And God can't send Born Again Christians among Methodists, to invite them to partake in the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Who made you judge of what God is doing in all the churches, who DO believe in Jesus as their Savior?
Remember Rom. 8:9
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

I am well-acquainted with that passage of Scripture. Has the Holy Spirit made you the arbiter of what is "true"? It is He who "leads to all truth"--not "Earburner".
 

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I was just reading about the Jesuit plan to kill off the Protestants and flood America with Catholic migrants from South America. The Pope just donated a lot of money for them to travel to America. People don't realize how dangerous this has become yet. I was unable to be seen in the ER because they were packed in the hospital getting free health care.

Yes--the New World Order globalism is an effort underwritten by the Vatican Jesuits. It has been in place for a very long time. Abraham Lincoln was well aware of the schemes of the Jesuits--that they were very dangerous foes.
 

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The Pope is definitely evil. I haven't read Revelations through but recently began it. I know in my spirit that the Pope is evil. I saw a photo of a former Pope and evil emanated from his eyes in a way I've rarely discerned.
Ok well I guess even the RCC deposed that pope ok
I was just reading about the Jesuit plan to kill off the Protestants and flood America with Catholic migrants from South America. The Pope just donated a lot of money for them to travel to America. People don't realize how dangerous this has become yet. I was unable to be seen in the ER because they were packed in the hospital getting free health care.
why are you going to an ER anyway SG?
 

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I am well-acquainted with that passage of Scripture. Has the Holy Spirit made you the arbiter of what is "true"? It is He who "leads to all truth"--not "Earburner".
Christians are the most persecuted ppl on the planet lol; by each other, I guess.

"Christian" is virtually synonymous with "condemnation" now, seems like
 

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Mystery Babylon:
"When we aaalll
get to heaven,
What a day
of rejoicing
that will beeeee..."

can't wait for you guys to finish eating each other tbh
 

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Christians are the most persecuted ppl on the planet lol; by each other, I guess.

"Christian" is virtually synonymous with "condemnation" now, seems like

There are true followers of Christ, bbyrd and then there are those who pretend to be. It has been so from the beginning of the faith. Judas Iscariot was one of the group constantly around Jesus, yet Jesus understood that Judas was not a believer.
 

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There are true followers of Christ, bbyrd and then there are those who pretend to be. It has been so from the beginning of the faith. Judas Iscariot was one of the group constantly around Jesus, yet Jesus understood that Judas was not a believer.
I disagree, I think Judas reps Christians today who all seek a literal king perfectly wadr. But we are taught that Judas just, what, either wanted the silver--which he obv did not care about, right--or just wanted to see Jesus go down--after all the miracles he witnessed?--instead of contemplating that maybe Judas expected Jesus to use His God-given power to save Himself? Right? On the first part at least?

I'm not really sure what Christians are directed to believe @ Judas nowadays tbh, I recall it being left pretty murky. too. But I suggest anyway that Judas reps "believers" to a T
 

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Judas "gave up Christ" (life, more abundantly) today for some "silver" and the hope that Jesus would ascend the throne of David literally tomorrow, and somehow Believers gee just cannot fathom how that might relate to them lol
:rolleyes:
 
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"Living in Jesus" means that you display the fruits of the Holy Spirit: "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control" especially toward brothers and sisters in the faith.
Hello! Unfortunately, we who are born again of His Spirit, live in a symbiotic relationship with Jesus.
Do all of such, walk in the Spirit continually, through our flesh? We are sinners saved by Grace! Our bodily resurrection into perfection has not happened yet.
Yes! We are made to "partakers of the divine nature". The key word there is "part".
 

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well, at least if you disregard all the testifying of oneself anyway, ya
sure comes across as parasitic though, wadr


"Christian" was likely a slur in first-century Israel for the same reason, and the term Christian predates our understanding of Christ, who we now consider to be "Jesus," right, but "Christ" had a diff meaning to them I guess? I haven't worked all that out yet myself, but Caesar was known as "Christ" too, although Hebrews obv had a diff concept of Christ, which is not our concept...or at least it isn't supposed to be imo, this what we call "Zionism" now guess,

The amazing name Christian: meaning and etymology
Why "Christian" was probably a bad word
 

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Not sure "Earburner" is an RC because the RCC doctrine is officially amillennial. But he does preach replacement theology, which the RCC does as well. They were the originators--called it "Dominion Theology". He claims to be a "Methodist" but I grew up as a Methodist and still know a lot of them--they are all liberal and have been for many decades. They are very casual in their regard of Scripture and I can't imagine ANY of them being "KJV only" as Earburner appears to be.
Good points.
 

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I am a born again Christian, who associates with a body of believers called Methodists. I never said that the members of the Methodists, or any other denomination, are born again also.
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In all the the denominations, there are three types of professing christians:
Followers of Jesus- as fans of a sports team.
Believers in Jesus- attempting to copy/mimic Jesus by their own human will.
Born again by Jesus- Jesus Himself living his own Life through the believer.
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All have come to God through Jesus, but only one of the three types live by/through the authority/power of God's Holy Spirit.
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Living in Jesus is not a popularity contest.
You forgot one group. Frauds.
 
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I disagree, I think Judas reps Christians today who all seek a literal king perfectly wadr. But we are taught that Judas just, what, either wanted the silver--which he obv did not care about, right--or just wanted to see Jesus go down--after all the miracles he witnessed?--instead of contemplating that maybe Judas expected Jesus to use His God-given power to save Himself? Right? On the first part at least?

I'm not really sure what Christians are directed to believe @ Judas nowadays tbh, I recall it being left pretty murky. too. But I suggest anyway that Judas reps "believers" to a T

Judas NEVER represents ANY kind of follower of Jesus, bbyrd. Please read the Gospel of John--he is probably the harshest critic of Judas among the Apostles. Jesus WILL be a literal King. He is "King of Kings and Lord of Lords". What will you do with Isaiah's prophecy that the "government will be upon His shoulders" without Him being a literal King? I think that Judas, like Satan, was jealous of the adoration lavished on Jesus by the crowds--he was likely also jealous of His power. He probably betrayed Jesus out of spite and then recognized his deadly error too late as Satan hounded him with guilt and shame. Judas is certainly a tragic figure but it was by his own choice. Have you been reading from Gnostic lies, bbyrd?
 

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He was exercising His role as God and judge of all the earth at the time--in His zeal for protecting the holiness of the Temple. You are not Him and have no such mission. All followers of Christ were given the mission of telling the world about Him in thought, word and deed.
Your horse is pretty high. Come on down and mingle with the rest of us sinners, saved by His Grace.
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All Born Again Christians, whether Methodist, Baptist or Catholic are in the Lord's CARE!
So be careful that it's not you, who is discerning, who is in the Lord, and who is not, just because they don't follow Him under your denomination!
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As with you, I am an ambassador in Christ's stead, inviting all to be reconciled to God.
2 Cor. 5[20] Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
 

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Your horse is pretty high. Come on down and mingle with the rest of us sinners, saved by His Grace.
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I quite understand that I am, like you, a sinner, saved by grace--but that does not entitle us to insult, belittle and behave badly toward others--especially those in the Body. We are called to a higher standard of behavior than those in the world.
 
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Christians are the most persecuted ppl on the planet lol; by each other, I guess.

"Christian" is virtually synonymous with "condemnation" now, seems like

Are you regularly attending church, bbyrd? You could meet real Christians there (believe me, there are lots of them) who love the Lord Jesus and the Father. True followers of Christ love all of the Father's children as well.