I thought everything belonged to God even this whole world. he owns it, he made it, and all people are to come to him be it Jew etc, end of story.
Nationalism As A Religion
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Pretty obvious that you have your 'own' written version of The Bible which God did not declare.
World Communism is definitely not dead today. It's only trying to hide under terms like Socialism. Per the ex-KGB colonel and 1960's defector to the U.S., Goliytsin, the world reached the FINAL 3rd Phase of the long-range Communist disinformation strategy to takeover the West when the Berlin Wall was allowed to be taken down. (see New Lies For Old for those not too scared to read it; can get a copy on Amazon.com. Golitsyn predicted in 1984 that if the Russian Communists were ready for its 3rd and final disinformation phase, they would allow the Berlin Wall to come down, which it did in 1989, five years after Golitsyn predicted it).
Could very well be that SOME here which align with that Communist disinformation strategy have come here to to push it. Afterall, it was the Communists who pushed the falsehood that the purpose for the Berlin Wall was to protect the East German people from the 'Fascist' west! It's COMMUNISTS that like to use that term FASCISM against the West.
It's also COMMUNISTS that hate the idea of western Capitalism, and the idea of patriotism to one's nation and people.
Nationalism and capitalism is a threat or seen as a danger to communist.
The great W Churchill seen communism as a pathetic foolish joke that had no hope of being a threat to capitalism at all.
The communist have been hard at work to deal with attacking the west capitalism but the west capitalist have been asleep at the wheel and very naive. as capitalism on it's own is noting, but it's the christian spirit that is the ingredient that makes this bear fruit.
There is no fruit to speak of in communism or socialism at all as these are dead to the Spirit and are only mans nonsense or madness.
Here is the fruit of godless capitalism. I use the small g because these people surely have a god.
Financial Collapse At Hand: When is "Sooner or Later"?
By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Global Research, June 5, 2012
URL of this article: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31272
Looks like a Leftist-Socialist bent on the news and world events. Like God's people really need that!
Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, columnist for Business Week, and professor of economics. His book, Economies In Collapse, is being published in Germany this month.
From early 1981 to January 1982 he served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy. President Ronald Reagan and Treasury Secretary Donald Regan credited him with a major role in the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, and he was awarded the Treasury Department's Meritorious Service Award for "outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy."[sup][4][/sup] Roberts resigned in January 1982 to become the first occupant of the William E. Simon Chair for Economic Policy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, then part of Georgetown University.[sup][9][/sup] He held this position until 1993. He went on to write The Supply-Side Revolution (1984), in which he explained the reformulation of macroeconomic theory and policy that he had helped to create.
And per Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley's 1960's work Tragedy And Hope, that "establishment" system is aligned with Socialism; and as Quigley even admitted, it oftens works with Communism and has no problem doing so.
Thus while many part of that system 'appear' to be true Free-Market Capitalists, they are not. The evidence? How they have made unjust laws to allow them to wrest economic control from the hands of the people in the U.S. Per Quigley, himself an admitter 'insider', the Rhodes Scholarship program is a Socialist tool started by students of the diamond magnate Cecil B. Rhodes. Being selected as a Rhodes scholar does not mean being the smartest person in the room; it means being selected to help pass laws to bring western civilzation joined with the rest of the world into a "one world government", a specific goal of Globalists, Socialists and Communists.
The office of U.S. President does not require one to be a Socialist in order to carry forward that "one world government" plan. Even the relatives of Franklin Roosevelt admitted how he was under control by powers much higher working behind the scenes which control the wealth in the U.S.
I don't have the time to read it but i will say that all people are lead to a god or gods and some do not even know it.
Everyone has a god or gods but only a true Christian knows God !
The God of Abraham the God of Isaac the God of Israel are the same God, the God of the living not the dead.
All the rest including Jews have another god or gods.
If the Jews had the true God then they would of became Christians. many Jews did and have see the light and came to Christ but the others are lost.
Jesus warns us of all of this lot and even the so called christians.
No, actually it is not. Instead, it is a Socialist system based on the Soviet model of the government owning and operating the corporate, which is what has been happenning in the west, the politicians in government allied with corporations in wresting control of the economy out of the people's hands. This is why the middle class in the U.S. is slowly dying with the wealth and power being transferred into an increasingly smaller group of men. In Soviet Russia it was the supreme Soviet group of Communist party rulers.
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The US government doesn't own and operate corporations. Where do you get that? Are you, like McCarthy, seeing a communist under every bed? How about supplying a source or two. It would be interesting to read an argument based upon learned reflection rather than subjective opinion. In point of fact, the US is less socialistic than it was twenty or thirty years ago. Want proof?
Every social program from school lunches to aid for the poor is being cut. Every single one. The communist party of the US isn't getting an audience, so they've decided to partner with the Episcopal Church to promote a film based on Liberation Theology (which crashed in Nicaragua in the 80's BTW - even the Catholic church admitted it was a failure). If American Communism is struggling, how does that equate to increased influence? (source: www.cpusa.com)
OUR POLITICANS are actually influenced by corporate interests and that's the classic definition of fascism. Let me repeat the often quoted warning by President Eisenhower when he warned America of the increasing influence of the military industrial complex. Defense contractors make money by selling to the government. The government buys it because it needs to promote war. This is why war is such an inherent part of a fascist system, so much so that some of the more expansive tomes written about fascism list constant militarism as a symptom. American fascism is fueled by a fake war conducted by an artificial enemy.
Question of the day:
What country created al qaeda? By 'created' I mean recruited men, provided training, ideological purpose and military objectives. If you guessed America, you guessed correctly. Hillary Clinton says we screwed up and that, like Frankenstein's monster, it got away from our control. Really? John McCain praised al qaeda operatives during the Libyan campaign in the spring of 2011 calling them 'heros'. Imagine that? Does that sound like something that is out of control? Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me. Sounds like an artificial FASCIST war.
The trap, the real trap in all this is militaristic nationalism. Don't get me wrong. Pride in one's country is a good thing, but when uniformed soldiers carrying guns and flags march through the sanctuary of God's house to glorify war instead of God, then there is something very very wrong with America. Don't tell me you haven't seen it on some level either small or large. The fourth of July is right around the corner and we're about to see it again - IN CHURCH. Watch and learn.
America is now a fascist police state. The signs are everywhere, but the problem is that Americans LIKE IT. Freedom and liberty, the real deal is a thing of the past. Nationalism, fascist militarism, is upon us. Every day we read and hear new stories of some oppression of freedom. Some instances are small and some not so small, but they indicate that it isn't just the national government that's guilty of these crimes against liberty. There are a lot of little Hitlers out there.
Its time we stopped waving the flag and started bowing to the cross. We are in deep trouble and God, not guns is the only way out of the trap. Will we turn to Him? No. Not until some terrible disaster overtakes us. Even then I have my doubts. But disaster is coming. It is coming. It is coming. Watch and learn and remember you were told.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Actually it is the corpations that "own" the government.
Here is what Christians can do to make a difference for themselves and others. Before each war they deciced to join the cult of nationalism, especially in Germany before WWII.
It is way too late to do anything else:
Zephaniah 2:3
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]3[/sup]Seek the Lord, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the Lord’s anger.
Mark 16:17-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]17 [/sup]And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; [sup]18 [/sup]they[sup][a][/sup] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
Matthew 10:7-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]7 [/sup]And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ [sup]8 [/sup]Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,[sup][a][/sup] cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.
Here is why:
Esther 4:13
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: “Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the king’s palace any more than all the other Jews.
Here is what Christians can do to make a difference for themselves and others. Before each war they deciced to join the cult of nationalism, especially in Germany before WWII.
It is way too late to do anything else:
Zephaniah 2:3
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]3[/sup]Seek the Lord, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the Lord’s anger.
Mark 16:17-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]17 [/sup]And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; [sup]18 [/sup]they[sup][a][/sup] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
Matthew 10:7-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]7 [/sup]And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ [sup]8 [/sup]Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,[sup][a][/sup] cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.
Here is why:
Esther 4:13
New King James Version (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: “Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the king’s palace any more than all the other Jews.
"A slimmed-down General Motors emerged from bankruptcy as a shadow of the manufacturing titan it had been. Brands like Hummer, Pontiac and Saturn are being closed.The federal government holds nearly 61 percent of the new company, with the Canadian government, a health care trust for the United Auto Workers union and bondholders owning the balance." (from New York Times at: http://topics.nytime...stry/index.html)
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Concerning Joseph McCarthy, scholars and de-classified FBI files have now proven that he was right about Communist infiltration into top levels of the U.S. government:
http://www.wnd.com/2000/02/4020/
http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b00t7hhf
The Communist Party USA doesn't deserve an audience in America; it is an anti-American front for eastern Communism as revealed by de-classified files out of the Venona Project. Communism could care less about school lunches. What it cares about is overthrow of the FREE nations to bring all nations into a one world government under its rule. Historical proof of Communism warring against the free peoples in the world is too long to list here. Communists paraders on the street are side-shows. It's the Communists that have crept into high positions of power that have caused the most damage to the free nations. Soviet agent Alegier Hiss who worked in the U.S. State Department to get the U.S. to sign the United Nations Charter in after WWII is one such example. Per Anatoliy Golitsyn in his 1990's work The Peristroika Deception, he cited an interview with Gorbachev where Gorbachev was asked if his belief and work to further Communism was over because of Perestroika. Gorbachev said no, that he believed in the goals of world Communism still and his beliefs had not changed any.
One of these days you might... begin to understand how many of the richest capitalists in America choose to ally with Communist-Socialism. The real reasons why that is so go much deeper than ideas of political choice, look in your Bible. The very ones you're calling Fascists are the ones either allied with or promoting Communist-Socialism in America. Who would have ever believed that Ronald Regean would agree to join the U.S. public education system with the Soviet education system. Yet that's what he agreed to with Gorbachev, as per ex-U.S. Dept. of Education official Charlotte Isabyter (see link to her testimony in the General forum section). Also, who would have ever thought Regean would also hand over use of the Presidio in California to Gorbachev to use for his one-world globalist summits? Yet it happened.
And all you can keep doing is pushing lies about ideas of American nationalism and the existence of the military as proof of Fascism. Pathetic.
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