Hello, I'm Eve_Mary.I am not what I would consider myself as "Christian" in the common sense. I don't even know if I'm Christian at all. But I feel like I'm going to burst if I don't find someone to talk to. I had a priest I was conversing with but as happens on the internet sometimes, he's disappeared.I'm going to describe my beliefs, and it's okay if the post gets deleted and I'm banned. But if any of you know where I can go to talk to people who believe similarly to me, please help me.I guess I could call myself a Biblical Christian. I read the Bible and interpret on my own. Two very important aspects of myself: I am pro-choice and I am pro-gay rights. To me, these are human rights and they are beliefs that I will never, ever change. So right out I've had a problem with "mainstream" Christianity as an adult because often, the followers are against both of these things.I am also very scientific at heart. I am an analytical person. If you know about meyers-briggs tests, I am INTP. I believe in evolution - another hit that prevents me from jiving with the "mainstream" of christianity.This is where that preist comes in. He's a catholic preist actually, and he quite blatantly told me that evolution fit in just fine with the bible because Genesis is meant to be metaphorical, not literal. That made me go back to my bible and re-read many things. I often use the bible itself to fight against people who are homophobic, discounting their evidence and proving otherwise. The same thing goes with abortion - the bible can be used to prove pro-choice stances.As a scientist, I can't bring myself in all aspects to truly believe in Jesus. I can do God, but then I am confronted with issues of God's behavior and his supposed omnipotence and omniscience, and how those two things conflict directly with my personal belief in free-will. I've had long discussions about this last issue and come to the conclusion that we either have free will, or we don't. If we do, then god isn't omnipotent or omniscient. If we don't, then he is both omniscient and omnipotent. I don't have a problem with saying and believing that he is neither omniscient or omnipotent and maintaining my free-will, and from what I've read in the bible (notably genesis) my theories are supported. I could go more into that but it's very long.So anyway... I don't want to offend anyone or make anyone angry. I'm just looking for resources or guides to places where I can meet people who are Christian in a similar way to me. Thanks.I don't want to start a debate about my beliefs or yours. I realise my beliefs are far different from mainstream christianity; that is why I am searching. Thank you.
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Well you can give us a try we are little differnt here in as much as we study the bible not religion Gods word has no denomination it is for all. We are not Pro choice or for homsexuality but some here are not sure of how they feel. As far as science there are varying opinions here I myself do not buy evoulution on its merits whether I was a christain or not However I completly disagree with those who state the earth ois only 6000 years old its obviously millions of years old.and we have had plenty of debates over that fact. So you can see we are a mismash of believes but your are welcome to study with us and see what you think. The most important thing I can say about us is we are most concerned with the Word of God not men
Thank you, I hope my time here can be one of learning. I've tried so many other forums and right away everyone tried telling me how evil homosexuality was and how I shouldn't kill innocent babies etc etc. It's extremely frustrating. I want to be allowed to read the bible and find what meaning it has for ME.
Well then come on in theres only one way to find out and thats study it we do not have to agree on every point to learn about Gods Word
As a matter of fact the only debate I would want to take on out of what you have said is with the priest:) I dont think there is debate on the other things.
You might find we have a little differnt take on Genesishttp://www.christianityboard.com/true-sin-...study-t509.html
I think I've actually found a few Liberal Christian forums that might suit my beliefs a little bit better!! As for the preist, I don't know! There's not much to say, lol.
(kriss;33960)
You might find we have a little differnt take on Genesis [link]
That was VERY cool. I highly enjoyed that; and it confirms what the preist was telling me: Genesis (and the rest of the bible) is a LOT deeper than people say it is!! Because of who I am and how I think, I am not content to be told the surface stories and be kept in ignorance. I want to KNOW; I want it to make sense. I'm smart enough to understand what's actually going on. I don't need the fairy tales.
You might find we have a little differnt take on Genesis [link]
That was VERY cool. I highly enjoyed that; and it confirms what the preist was telling me: Genesis (and the rest of the bible) is a LOT deeper than people say it is!! Because of who I am and how I think, I am not content to be told the surface stories and be kept in ignorance. I want to KNOW; I want it to make sense. I'm smart enough to understand what's actually going on. I don't need the fairy tales.
(setfree;33964)
I am curious why you have a problem with Jesus, can you explain this?
Because the surface writings make him sound like a fairy tale, just like the garden of eden. I don't know if there's as much to read into the stories of Jesus, but there must be something.
I am curious why you have a problem with Jesus, can you explain this?
Because the surface writings make him sound like a fairy tale, just like the garden of eden. I don't know if there's as much to read into the stories of Jesus, but there must be something.
(Eve_Mary;33965)
That was VERY cool. I highly enjoyed that; and it confirms what the preist was telling me: Genesis (and the rest of the bible) is a LOT deeper than people say it is!! Because of who I am and how I think, I am not content to be told the surface stories and be kept in ignorance. I want to KNOW; I want it to make sense. I'm smart enough to understand what's actually going on. I don't need the fairy tales.
We are into very much the deeper understanding of Gods Word the surface text is called the milk and its for all new babes in the word but God wants us to get to the meat of it and he says there is a famine out there for teachers /students of the meat here you should find some meat to chew on
That was VERY cool. I highly enjoyed that; and it confirms what the preist was telling me: Genesis (and the rest of the bible) is a LOT deeper than people say it is!! Because of who I am and how I think, I am not content to be told the surface stories and be kept in ignorance. I want to KNOW; I want it to make sense. I'm smart enough to understand what's actually going on. I don't need the fairy tales.
We are into very much the deeper understanding of Gods Word the surface text is called the milk and its for all new babes in the word but God wants us to get to the meat of it and he says there is a famine out there for teachers /students of the meat here you should find some meat to chew on
The Bible is a very deep book. It is in layers. I have learned that once you take the surface part by faith, you move into the deeper things of God. But we have to believe in Jesus for our spiritual eyes to be open, otherwise it will all be surface facts. Just my experience!
Welcome to Christianity Board Eve_Mary, hope thou enjoy thy stay here and hope you learn the REAL Truth here.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Sorry guys; I think I've found a few places that are more liberal, though I may stick around here too because of your strong biblical focus.For me, as a scientist at heart, I cannot believe someone making wine into water, or manifesting bread out of nowhere, or bringing someone back from the dead. That is all magic, hocus pocus. Impossible.
There is not alot to say if you have read the Bible and choose not to believe. You will not see the things of the Spirit without faith in His word.
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So was a virgin birth, but then that leaves us without a Savior if its not true.
I don't necessarily believe in that, either.
So was a virgin birth, but then that leaves us without a Savior if its not true.
I don't necessarily believe in that, either.
Man I ask you, Eve_Mary, What the difference in killing a fetus and a toddler is in your way of thinking?
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