NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

[covenantee]

Your right,

IN HIM

God made the promise. so IN HIM he must keep it.

That includes his promise to Abraham, Isaac Jacob and his 12 sons and all their generations forever.

Galatians 3
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

 

[covenantee]

I did not misquote him

It says what it says. The deliverer will come out of Zion., and they will repent and be saved.

You replaced "so" with "then".

That's a misquote.

 

[covenantee]

God made promises in the OT. He stated they were forever covenants.. Those covenants are still binding..

You can deny it all you want.. I believe God keeps his promises. The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant as a means of eternal life.. Not the abrahamic covenant..

God made New Promises in His New Will and Testament. A New Will and Testament completely transcends an old will and testament, because that's how wills and testaments work.

God has every right to make His New Will and Testament. Stop trying to deny Him that right.

Your denials are to no avail.

 

[BlessedPeace]

It comes from the hatred of Jews as founded by the roman catholic church..It is called replacement theology. where they believe God is done with the Jesus killing jews and has replaced them with the church

Yes. The Roman emperors imagined themselves and Rome able to rule the whole world and its people for eternity.

Naturally, their church would have to abrogate scripture and those passages referring to God's chosen people,in order to erase the OT and ascend to primacy.

Now,long after the fall of the world Romans secular politic and empire we have their ecclesiastical edifice.

The Pope, "Caesar", leader of the most populace and one of the smallest,sovereign states on earth. And,the college of cardinals,replacing the Roman senate.

The polytheistic pagan empire of the Caesars continues. Jesus,God,and all those venerated dead people (saints) who,as with the pagan gods and goddesses of ancient Rome, are aligned with certain elements relative to today's world.

The saint (God) of safe travel, the god (saint) of hopeless causes,etc....

So,in effect all those posts railing against today's Christian celebration calendar are railing against over a billion people in Roman Catholicism, which brought the world the first Bible.
They're also condemning,to remain consistent,the Gregorian calendar. It's months and days.

Jews,are just the beginning when a people decided to replace what God ordained before the foundation of the world.

Busy.They're going to be very very busy.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Galatians 3
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Please read the OT where God gave the promise. and tell me when eternal ends

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You replaced "so" with "then".

That's a misquote.

It happens THEN..

why do you make it so difficult.

when will it happen?

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own [f]opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

It is after the fullness of the gentile has come in, THEN the redeemer will come..

Do you know when that is? when does Christ return? Who will he defeat when he returns?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God made New Promises in His New Will and Testament. A New Will and Testament completely transcends an old will and testament, because that's how wills and testaments work.

God has every right to make His New Will and Testament. Stop trying to deny Him that right.

Your denials are to no avail.

a new promise does not negate an old promise

when God says forever. he means it

Let me guess. You do not think eternal life is eternal either do you. You believe it can be lost..

 

[covenantee]

Please read the OT where God gave the promise. and tell me when eternal ends

Please read the NT promises and tell me that Christ is not eternal.

 

[BlessedPeace]

You all keep going at the salvation aspect.

You are correct. It does not matter what race, although it NEVER DID MATTER

God told abraham, through him (that is christ) shall ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD BE BLESSED

In this context is romans 9 quote you all keep quoting. your right, it does not matter

But there was another promise.. Not given to all nations But to one group. through His one son (Isaac) and again through his one son (Jacob) and through Jacobs 12 sons or the children of Jacob or Israel. He gave them a gift and a calling

That promise still stand even today. As paul said,

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

God keeps his promise..

I'll say this. The influx and tolerance of the racists, the anti-Bible, and anti-"Jew" hate speech rhetoric here gives this community a bad look for anyone invested in an online search for Christian community.

It no doubt gives great satisfaction to atheists and others who think the faithful need be saved now from each other.

 

[covenantee]

a new promise does not negate an old promise

It does in the New Will and Testament, established on Better Promises. (Hebrews 8:6)

That's how wills and testaments work.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Please read the NT promises and tell me that Christ is not eternal.

The NT promises concern eternal life with God in heaven

Theydo not negate the OT promise about a people and a land.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It does in the New Will and Testament, established on Better Promises. (Hebrews 8:6)

That's how wills and testaments work.

Yes. Concerning the mosaic covenant

The land promise is the abrahamic covenant. Not the mosaic.

Nice try.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I'll say this. The influx and tolerance of the racists, the anti-Bible, and anti-"Jew" hate speech rhetoric here gives this community a bad look for anyone invested in an online search for Christian community.

It no doubt gives great satisfaction to atheists and others who think the faithful need be saved now from each other.

Sadly, It has been Satans plan from the begining to divide us

 

[covenantee]

The NT promises concern eternal life with God in heaven

Theydo not negate the OT promise about a people and a land.

The NT promises in Christ in His New Will and Testament transcend all previous promises.

Because that's how wills and testaments work.

 

[covenantee]

Yes. Concerning the mosaic covenant

The land promise is the abrahamic covenant. Not the mosaic.

Nice try.

That is complete nonsense, first appearing in the counterfeit dogmas of modernist cultic dispensationalism.

There is not one recognized defender of the true faith over more than 17 centuries of NT Church history who has claimed that the New Testament replaces only the mosaic covenant.

Not one.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Sadly, It has been Satans plan from the begining to divide us

True. It none the less is a surprise to encounter so many of his agents in one place.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is complete nonsense, first appearing in the counterfeit dogmas of modernist cultic dispensationalism.

There is not one recognized defender of the true faith over more than 17 centuries of NT Church history who has claimed that the New Testament replaces only the mosaic covenant.

Not one.

Thats ok. When the Bible talks about the old covenant, it is the law of moses it is talking about. I could care less what people outside the Bible think

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The NT promises in Christ in His New Will and Testament transcend all previous promises.

Because that's how wills and testaments work.

Only in your world

The abrahamic covenant still stands all of it..

 

[PinSeeker]

God made New Promises in His New Will and Testament. A New Will and Testament completely transcends an old will and testament, because that's how wills and testaments work.

Yes, but His promises were not new in the sense that He had never made them before. We know that God is unchanging. So, His promises were new in the sense that they were fully realized ~ in their greater sense ~ in the New Testament. They are what they always were, even in the Old Testament, but in their true, eternal, infinite sense rather than what we might call "object lessons" in their lesser sense.

In a similar vein, even though Jesus clarifies various laws, even the Ten Commandments, of the Old Testament with all His "but I tell you" statements in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 through 7. So, the Law is, even today, what it really was way back then, but just much greater than it may have seemed or appeared on its face. He even says that loving God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and loving your neighbor as yourself are the two commandments that sum up the whole Law. Right?

Grace and peace to you, Covenantee.

 

[covenantee]

Only in your world

The abrahamic covenant still stands all of it..

The Abrahamic Covenant promises were made to Abraham and to Christ. Galatians 3:16

Under the New Will and Testament in the Blood of Jesus the Divine Testator, He is declared to be the sole Heir of all things. Hebrews 1:1,2

That includes all of the Abrahamic promises.

Unregenerate Israel is the heir of nothing under the New Will and Testament.

You desperately attempt to dispossess Jesus as the sole Heir of all things, and replace Him with unregenerate Israel.

You fail.