No Sins of Imperfection: Sinlessness is not Perfectionism

[robert derrick]

Burping is not a sin. Neither is hitting the thumb, rather than the nail.

Sinners who want to go on sinning, and still go to heaven, must first downgrade sinning to natural imperfections.

In this way, they can then cry out against preaching not to sin, as teaching perfection.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

All sinning with the devil against God is made perfectly known by God's law.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...

Keep reading the Scripture there and elsewhere in the writings of the apostles to know what sinning for the devil against God is.

It doesn't include burping, nor tripping on a stone.

Those purified in Christ from sinning don't need to read the law of Christ, in order not to transgress it. Afterall, everyone knows fornication, theft, robbery, murder, idolatry, etc...is sinning with the devil.

It's just the sinless in Christ, in whom is no sinning, aren't doing it.

Sinlessness is not sinning against Christ by transgressing the letter of His law.

Sinlessness therefore is not perfection: the law of Christ does not condemn burping nor forgetting where the keys are, neither in letter nor in spirit.

That includes all such imperfections of this life, that are done naturally with vile bodies, and imperfectly with stupid moves.

Defecating and stubbing the toe is imperfection, but fornication is sinning with the devil against God, not a 'mistake' 'accident' nor 'messing up' in imperfection.

No man born of God can be transgressing His Son's law and sinning for the devil, though he certainly will be imperfectly doing things while yet in natural mortal imperfect flesh.

No man is perfect in this law, but not all men are sinning with the devil today.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Only the immature weak Christians think everything they do is a sin. They are not strong and proficient in the Bible. They are corrupted by men’s teachings (in which ironically, they are proficient in).

 

[robert derrick]

Unrighteous christian sinners want to do away with the letter of the law, so that they can then define sin as imperfection: they downgrade sinning against God to that of natural imperfections in this life.

If burping and losing keys is sinning against God, then we are all sinners by natural birth, and so we cannot possibly be not sinning, while yet in the flesh on earth.

And that is the doctrine of OSAS: We are all imperfect beings born of flesh and blood, and so no man in the flesh can possibly be perfect and not sinning.

And so, whether burping, stumbling on stones, or fornicating, they are still saved by grace.

And if anyone preaches differently, then they are preaching a doctrine of perfectionism in the flesh.

Sinlessness is not transgressing the law of Christ written in Scripture, and is not the perfectionism of a resurrected spiritual body, there there is no burping nor running late for dinner.

God made man a living soul in mortal flesh, to test the soul experiencing imperfections of the flesh, yet without sinning with the flesh.

Jesus came to prove it can be done on earth, and to show the one way of doing so: loving God with all the heart and resisting the devil by not sinning with him, neither by lusting within the heart for sin, nor committing sin in word or deed.

Jesus' flesh and bones today do the same as He, walking as He walked hand in hand today, sinlessly and imperfectly.

If Jesus hit His thumb, rather than the nail, it was a simply error of mortal flesh, but He did not sin by cursing God, Himself, nor the hammer.

And He certainly did not blame it on His own fleshy hand, unlike disobedient and soddish children, that blame their sinning today on sinful flesh.

 

[robert derrick]

Only the immature weak Christians think everything they do is a sin. They are not strong and proficient in the Bible. They are corrupted by men’s teachings (in which ironically, they are proficient in).

They are most proficient in condemning the righteous as self-righteous preachers of sinless perfectionism, and they never miss a chance to do so.

Sinless is not perfection, and imperfection is only natural mistakes and vile bodily functions.

They will not call evil good, but they are professionals at calling good evil: Mortal flesh is made imperfect by God, but it is still good in the sight of God.

Imperfection is neither sinful nor evil, and those who declare imperfection to be sinning against God, are calling God's creation evil, and not good.

Sounds just like what the devil would say.

 

[robert derrick]

unrighteous christian sinners want to do away with the letter of the law, or at least to define sinning against God by their own letters and rule.

One such is calling sin missing the mark, and so anything that is not perfect is therefore sinning.

Using the definition of a word does not make law of God. Period.

Sinning is the word Scripture uses to define falling short of the glory of God, which is by transgressing His law, both spiritually within the heart with lust for sin sin, and outwardly in word or deed of the devil.

By calling sin imperfection of the flesh, man is making his own law to define sin.

And so, the law of Christ, that does define sin against Himself, is made of none effect by their traditional definition of sin, with their own law of thou shalt not do imperfectly.

They make up a law that cannot possibly be kept in the flesh on earth, and so declare doing the law of Christ is also impossible on earth.

Dumbing down sinning to imperfectionism is the go-to self-justification for sinning with the flesh against Jesus's written law in Scripture.

The only letter of law they believe in is do nothing imperfect, and so they declare none of the letters of the law of Christ can be done without sinning imperfectly.

The perfect law of liberty and Christ is done perfectly without sinning, by not sinning against it.

We are doing God's law perfectly, when we are not transgressing it by fornication, adultery, drunkenness, thefts, false witnessing, manstealing...even if we are transgressing the law of unrighteous sinners by being imperfect in the flesh.

Since I cannot obey man's law while in the flesh, then I don't even try to obey by doing perfection in life, and gladly settle for perfectly obeying Jesus's law which is spiritual, good, and righteous altogether, and easy to keep by knowing Him and the power of His resurrection.

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

 

[robert derrick]

Scripture says sinning is coming short of the glory of God, not coming short of perfection.

Imperfection of the flesh is not coming short of the glory of God: the glory of God on earth is a man in mortal flesh not sinning with the devil against God, which can only be by knowing the first man to ever do so on earth, and so begin given power to do the same.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.

Being perfect as He is in heaven, is being pure of heart and soul without devilishly sinning in word or deed, even as the man Jesus in all the days of His flesh.

It does not mean being without imperfection bodily.

 

[robert derrick]

The glory of God is to make man in His own image and clothe him with imperfect mortal flesh, and yet not sin against God and transgress His law.

The angels made with spiritual bodies did sin against God, and so God would prove He can create a living creature that will not sin against Him, even if made a little lower than the angels with mortal flesh.

And the man Jesus was God come in the same imperfect mortal flesh of all men to prove man need not transgress His law and come short of His glory.

Scripture says He did all things well and went about doing good, not that He was the perfect man after the flesh, He was perfect in spirit, heart, and soul with God, and sinned not against God in word or deed, but His flesh was not made perfect from the seed of David.

Imperfection is not coming short of the glory of God, but sinning with lust of the world is.

The righteous and pure in heart are sinless by not sinning, not perfect by not doing imperfect things bodily, such as any vile natural function or mistake of the mind and the flesh.

 

[robert derrick]

If imperfection is sinning, then so is burping, tripping, forgetfulness, mental retardation, and physical handicap.

Physically lame is imperfection, not sinning against God. The lame that God rejects are the lame in spirit and in life by sinning against His word.

The biggest lie of the devil is that mortal flesh has sin in it, because mortal flesh is imperfect, And this lie is made by first calling imperfection sinning.

The devil's law is declaring that imperfection is sinning, and the devil's doctrine is that man is therefore born with flesh made of sin, and so with natural longing to be with the devil and not with God.

No soul, angel, nor mortal flesh is made by the devil with sin in it, but all living creatures, whether spiritual or natural, are made perfectly good by Christ, though naturally mortal and imperfect.

The soul is made perfect in spirit, and the body is made weak in mortal flesh, while the angels are made perfect spiritually and with spiritual immortal bodies.

The flesh is weak in that it is imperfect and mortal, not that it is sinful by nature.

Man being born again by Christ is therefore to return to being made perfect in spirit and pure with Christ, while the flesh remains weak in imperfection of mortality.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Burping is not a sin. Neither is hitting the thumb, rather than the nail.

Sinners who want to go on sinning, and still go to heaven, must first downgrade sinning to natural imperfections.

In this way, they can then cry out against preaching not to sin, as teaching perfection.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

All sinning with the devil against God is made perfectly known by God's law.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...

Keep reading the Scripture there and elsewhere in the writings of the apostles to know what sinning for the devil against God is.

It doesn't include burping, nor tripping on a stone.

Those purified in Christ from sinning don't need to read the law of Christ, in order not to transgress it. Afterall, everyone knows fornication, theft, robbery, murder, idolatry, etc...is sinning with the devil.

It's just the sinless in Christ, in whom is no sinning, aren't doing it.

Sinlessness is not sinning against Christ by transgressing the letter of His law.

Sinlessness therefore is not perfection: the law of Christ does not condemn burping nor forgetting where the keys are, neither in letter nor in spirit.

That includes all such imperfections of this life, that are done naturally with vile bodies, and imperfectly with stupid moves.

Defecating and stubbing the toe is imperfection, but fornication is sinning with the devil against God, not a 'mistake' 'accident' nor 'messing up' in imperfection.

No man born of God can be transgressing His Son's law and sinning for the devil, though he certainly will be imperfectly doing things while yet in natural mortal imperfect flesh.

No man is perfect in this law, but not all men are sinning with the devil today.

Never sinning is actually perfection Rob. Only 1 human in history remained perfect. There are myriads of spirit beings however that have not sinned.

 

[robert derrick]

Never sinning is actually perfection Rob. Only 1 human in history remained perfect. There are myriads of spirit beings however that have not sinned.

Since you are not referring to anything I write, then please state you own opinion in an independent post, rather than under the guise of replying to what I write.

 

[robert derrick]

Only the immature weak Christians think everything they do is a sin. They are not strong and proficient in the Bible. They are corrupted by men’s teachings (in which ironically, they are proficient in).

True.

I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

Being strong in the word is both knowing the difference between good and evil according to the law of Christ, but also doing it.

In that way, we do not suffer guilt-trips from commandments of men, nor do we justifying sinning with the devil, but believing imperfections of mortal flesh is also sinning.

Being mortal is not sinful, but is simply how God makes all mortal flesh, and it is still good in His sight when created, even if it is made even weaker by sinning souls.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Since you are not referring to anything I write, then please state you own opinion in an independent post, rather than under the guise of replying to what I write.

Thou art said sir: In this way, they can then cry out against preaching not to sin, as teaching perfection.

Perhaps by your usage of many words, you even forget what you say. Less words to the point make less confusion sir.

 

[robert derrick]

Thou art said sir: In this way, they can then cry out against preaching not to sin, as teaching perfection.

Perhaps by your usage of many words, you even forget what you say. Less words to the point make less confusion sir.

If you don't know the difference, then don't bother posting.

If you choose any point made and can correct, then I'll see what you have.

 

[Robert Gwin]

If you don't know the difference, then don't bother posting.

If you choose any point made and can correct, then I'll see what you have.

I apologize if I was in error sir. I will simply state it point blank, and perhaps you agree, all Christians sin, it is as simple as that, if we agree and I misunderstood you, which of course wouldn't be the first time, then I apologize, but it was because of the many words of your post. Best to keep it simple sir, especially for simple minds like mine.

 

[robert derrick]

I apologize if I was in error sir. I will simply state it point blank, and perhaps you agree, all Christians sin, it is as simple as that, if we agree and I misunderstood you, which of course wouldn't be the first time, then I apologize, but it was because of the many words of your post. Best to keep it simple sir, especially for simple minds like mine.

No one is born of God while sinning against God, whether christian, jew, muslim, buddhist, atheist, satanist...

Thou art said sir: In this way, they can then cry out against preaching not to sin, as teaching perfection.

True. And you are an example of teaching the lie that perfect living is the law of Christ, and so all Christians must be sinners.

Speak for yourself, when preaching a lie.

Never sinning is actually perfection Rob. Only 1 human in history remained perfect. There are myriads of spirit beings however that have not sinned.

Scripture never says Jesus lived perfect, did all things perfect, nor was perfection in the flesh.

Scriptural teaching of perfection is spiritual wholeness and cleanness of life in the flesh.

Never sinning is actually perfection Rob. Only 1 human in history remained perfect.

True, there are many angels, that sinned not after the manner of Lucifer. But all men have sinned after the manner of Adam, by being drawn away of their own lust.

Jesus was the only man to choose the good and reject the evil from the cradle to grave.