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People can interpret the Bible in thousand ways. Even a flat earther can claim he is using "scripture".
thats why the spirit of the ressurected Lord Jesus is important to have with us when we interpert and read, also asking who, when, why, where, how, and what.
 

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No, Bible is very unclear about that. There is only one short place about the "millennial" period and it is in the metaphorical book. Nothing "very clear" about it. People can have thousand of views about it and nobody knows who is right.
The Bible is actually very clear about the millennial kingdom when you read the end-time prophecies together. In Revelation 20:1–3 it says, “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.” This shows that before Christ’s reign begins, Satan will be removed and unable to deceive the world.

Then Revelation 20:4–6 continues, “And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This couldn’t be clearer. The first resurrection happens before the thousand-year reign, and those who rise then rule with Christ while the rest of the dead wait until the end of that period.

Isaiah also spoke of this time when the world will be at peace. Isaiah 11:6–9 says, “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.” This describes a world that has been transformed, where even animals live in harmony. That has never happened yet, so this is still in the future.

Zechariah 14:9 also points to this same time, saying, “And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be—‘The Lord is one,’ and His name one.” When Jesus returns, He will not only rule from heaven but from the earth itself as King over all nations.

Peter, in Acts 3:20–21, “until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.” That “restoration” is the renewal of the earth under Christ’s reign, the very kingdom the prophets saw long ago.

See, My opinions are all from scripture! It’s not confusing at all. Jesus will return in glory, Satan will be bound, the faithful will reign with Christ, and the earth will finally live in peace and righteousness. The Bible repeats “a thousand years” six times in Revelation 20 so no one would miss it. God made it plain that this is a real and promised time still ahead of us.
 
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The Bible is actually very clear about the millennial kingdom when you read the end-time prophecies together. In Revelation 20:1–3 it says, “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.” This shows that before Christ’s reign begins, Satan will be removed and unable to deceive the world.

Then Revelation 20:4–6 continues, “And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This couldn’t be clearer. The first resurrection happens before the thousand-year reign, and those who rise then rule with Christ while the rest of the dead wait until the end of that period.

Isaiah also spoke of this time when the world will be at peace. Isaiah 11:6–9 says, “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.” This describes a world that has been transformed, where even animals live in harmony. That has never happened yet, so this is still in the future.

Zechariah 14:9 also points to this same time, saying, “And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be—‘The Lord is one,’ and His name one.” When Jesus returns, He will not only rule from heaven but from the earth itself as King over all nations.

Peter, in Acts 3:20–21, “until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.” That “restoration” is the renewal of the earth under Christ’s reign, the very kingdom the prophets saw long ago.

See, My opinions are all from scripture! It’s not confusing at all. Jesus will return in glory, Satan will be bound, the faithful will reign with Christ, and the earth will finally live in peace and righteousness. The Bible repeats “a thousand years” six times in Revelation 20 so no one would miss it. God made it plain that this is a real and promised time still ahead of us.
This is what I call Lego theology. You take various places and put them together to build the case for your view. Not buying it. I do not agree that the rest of the verses is about the millennium from the book of Revelation.
 

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thats why the spirit of the ressurected Lord Jesus is important to have with us when we interpert and read, also asking who, when, why, where, how, and what.
Everybody can claim they have the spirit and so that is why their interpretation is the true one.
 

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thats why the spirit of the ressurected Lord Jesus is important to have with us when we interpert and read, also asking who, when, why, where, how, and what.
Matthew Jesus said he IS always with us here is what he said clearly; In John 14:26 (NKJV):

“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.”

He also promised in Matthew 28:20, “And lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

also the book of revelations with a clear chronology of end time events in regards to the Coming Kingdoms are the words of Christ spoken .through his beloved disciple John.

I did not intend to disrespect you before I apologize.
 

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This is what I call Lego theology. You take various places and put them together to build the case for your view. Not buying it. I do not agree that the rest of the verses is about the millennium from the book of Revelation.
All these verses say the same things. the complete chronology is found in the book of revelations, there is a lot of symbolism in that book but the established sequence of the millennial and the final Kingdom is clear.
 

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Thats okay, even if you are a staff member, you are not allowed to badger or anything so.

I have nothing to say to you.

All the best,
Matthew
 

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All these verses say the same things. the complete chronology is found in the book of revelations, there is a lot of symbolism in that book but the established sequence of the millennial and the final Kingdom is clear.
Not buying it. The book of Revelation is the least understood book, even though many people boast they know exactly what it means. Two Christians, three opinions.
 

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Person,

I just read the bible.

grace and peace,
Matthew
Mathew . you know full well i am bound to the truth and loyalty to God .
You yourself admitted you aint even read the whole bible .
You might have read it , but you should have enjoyed and KEPT reading it . Let us be honest my friend .
 
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Matthew Jesus said he IS always with us here is what he said clearly; In John 14:26 (NKJV):

“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.”

He also promised in Matthew 28:20, “And lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

also the book of revelations with a clear chronology of end time events in regards to the Coming Kingdoms are the words of Christ spoken .through his beloved disciple John.

I did not intend to disrespect you before I apologize.
Renee , ya may as well be speaking not only a foreign tongue but a tongue of an invented langague that none has ever heard of
my f riend . This people hears exactly what and ONLY what they desire to hear . and if some truths are in it amen
and if some lies are in it they say amen . WE got serious problems my friend . SERIOUS ones .
Continue to speak , to live and to write the truth .
SOON the inclusive love god will have taken them all into its web to never return but to await only damnation .
THEY WILL merge under a common ground love of an inclusive god . And may it be and shall it be
an ICE COLD fifty trillion below zero day in a real hot place LONG before i say G OD and not god . cause that god is SATAN .
we have our work cut out for us my friend . bible haters are a dime , if not an eleven a dozen now .
People desire to hear WHATEVER fancys their ear that fills and fullfills their lusts .
But sheep have the DESIRE and DESIRES OF GOD planted upon their heart . THEY NO BUY A LIE
THEY buy the TRUTH and sell her not . You can be as nice as you desire but i tell you that man WILL NOT HEAR YOU .
HE hears ONLY what he d esires and sadly IT AINT TRUTH .
 
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People who suggest that scripture is the primary; I would say they are wrong.

People quote scripture out of context constantly and often deliberatly. There are biblical literalist in the world and yatta yatta.

I believe personally the spirit is vitally more important compared to the scripture. Because the Spirit produces heavenly things, and I believe its possible it will lead us to as close to the truth as one can get to, if they so abide in the resurrected Lord Yeshua, and they go to study a certain topic.

People whom are older or younger than me, have yet to go through some things I have had to go through which included challening myself, and not challening others.


Ive had to do work myself when it came to reading and taking time to see and study what is being read and stated and said.

Im not better than no one because of this, but it has nothing to do with "not buying into scripture."
 

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Not buying scripture then.
We in the last hours , what did you expect . I have LONG WEPT for this people
And have watched over the years this rebellion that has now led to more hatred
against the T ruth , FROM THE CHURCHES , than ever .
What did you expect my friend . Did you really think the same ones who keep fighing against simple truth
over and over again wont just do the same .
Now i aint saying to give up . But do not let them wear you out my friend .
This people dont give a rip about TRUTH OF GOD only the truth of what my pastor or my own mind tells
me is OF god . sorry to have to say it like that . and worse i am so sorry for them too .
but friend i am looking for a few good soliders
To hand the baton off too . TO continue the very race long ago began by the earliest beleivers
IN CHRIST and has been handed down by every generation .
My TIME , well i have no idea the days i have left .
NO man does really .
But i am just hoping to see in my last days upon earth
a few who will pick that baton up and rage HOLY WAR AGAINST THE WHORE and her ecumincal pile of dung .
I could die happy seeing that . i could die real happy seeing the peoples of GOD stand against teh WHORE
and preach only JESUS .
 
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Yeah we in the last hours of another day that we most likely will live through unless God takes our life.
 

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Yeah we in the last hours of another day that we most likely will live through unless God takes our life.
Yeah and if we acting like a couple in the church that were overthowing the faith of some about JESUS RETURN
acting as if the RESSURECTION were already past .
WE BETTER PRAY TO GOD we dont die in that state . You have long decieved yourself
and you know how to use the victim card to silence voices .
But my voice YE cannot silence , nor intimidate with your progressive liberal victim card tatcis .
If this site bans me so be it . At least i love YOU and the others enough to warn and keep warning .
You are prayed for mathew . BUT i am telling you they decieved you and you yourself when you
sat under preterism . And i already know not everything it teaches is a lie . BUT I KNOW
that no false teaching or teacher teaches only lies . THEY BLEND the lies with truths to make it BELEIVABLE .