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We in the last hours , what did you expect . I have LONG WEPT for this people
And have watched over the years this rebellion that has now led to more hatred
against the T ruth , FROM THE CHURCHES , than ever .
What did you expect my friend . Did you really think the same ones who keep fighing against simple truth
over and over again wont just do the same .
Now i aint saying to give up . But do not let them wear you out my friend .
This people dont give a rip about TRUTH OF GOD only the truth of what my pastor or my own mind tells
me is OF god . sorry to have to say it like that . and worse i am so sorry for them too .
but friend i am looking for a few good soliders
To hand the baton off too . TO continue the very race long ago began by the earliest beleivers
IN CHRIST and has been handed down by every generation .
My TIME , well i have no idea the days i have left .
NO man does really .
But i am just hoping to see in my last days upon earth
a few who will pick that baton up and rage HOLY WAR AGAINST THE WHORE and her ecumincal pile of dung .
I could die happy seeing that . i could die real happy seeing the peoples of GOD stand against teh WHORE
and preach only JESUS .
Amigo, thank you for your encouragement, I appreciate it. I continue the fight for truths as found in scripture daily. But it is hard work and wanting that everyone sees the light and path that leads to eternal life is not an easy task but must me done to a certain point. Christ said to leave people who do not keep his words, I can only warn them they take the wrong path but Only God can bring them back according to His will. But on their side they have to believe what GOD says through scripture and not from preachers and some churches. We have to test the spirit and all words has to be in accord with God's words. Anything that differs from scripture is not from God but from men and the adversary that wants all humanity dead and who now attacks relentlessly. There is Much work to be done and I am not afraid.

Blessings Amigo.
 
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Amigo, thank you for your encouragement, I appreciate it. I continue the fight for truths as found in scripture daily. But it is hard work and wanting that everyone sees the light and path that leads to eternal life is not an easy task but must me done to a certain point. Christ said to leave people who do not keep his words, I can only warn them they take the wrong path but Only God can bring them back according to His will. But on their side they have to believe what GOD says through scripture and not from preachers and some churches. We have to test the spirit and all words has to be in accord with God's words. Anything that differs from scripture is not from God but from men and the adversary that wants all humanity dead and who now attacks relentlessly. There is Much work to be done and I am not afraid.

Blessings Amigo.
and that my FRIEND is why i been calling on YOU , me and others TO DOUBLE Down .
SOMEONE gotta do something , for this generation has fallen for the judge not correct not victim card
And that was and is bad news for them an d for all that head into that so called lovey do card .
IT DONT LOVE THE THINGS OF GOD
in fact i will tell us what it loves and those who use it love . ITS MEANT TO defend SIN
NOT THE TRUTH . ITS meant to ONLY silence TRUTH and those who do speak it , IN ORDER FOR EVIL to take over .
AND evil has TAKEN OVER many a church but they see it as being loving .
 

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Amigo, thank you for your encouragement, I appreciate it. I continue the fight for truths as found in scripture daily. But it is hard work and wanting that everyone sees the light and path that leads to eternal life is not an easy task but must me done to a certain point. Christ said to leave people who do not keep his words, I can only warn them they take the wrong path but Only God can bring them back according to His will. But on their side they have to believe what GOD says through scripture and not from preachers and some churches. We have to test the spirit and all words has to be in accord with God's words. Anything that differs from scripture is not from God but from men and the adversary that wants all humanity dead and who now attacks relentlessly. There is Much work to be done and I am not afraid.

Blessings Amigo.
you are not and were not being called upon by me to tone it down BUT rather TO DOUBLE DOWN .
my reminder , however for you and myself is
DONT let them wear you down . SPEAK , TYPE , write and live THE TRUTH of ALL MIGHTY GOD and OF HIS CHRIST
of the prophets and of all sound doctrine . THE ONLY and i do say ONLY
pattern that works to the good of this people is , THE PATTERN GOD SET , HIS WORDS
That means both beholding and preaching THE GOODNESS and SEVERITY OF GOD . speaking
ALL HIS WORDS , all HIS REMINDERS . FOR EVERY and i do mean EVERY WORD OF GOD
and WORD HE INSPIRED IS MEAT FOR OUR SOUL and WORKS to the good of the hearer and doer .
BUT WOE WAIL to he or she who omits and twists such lovely words
FOR THE WORD SHALL BE THEIR JUDGE on the last DAY . MY WORDS will be your judge .
AND when i said MY WORDS , i was not quoting me , BUT CHRIST HIMSELF . HIS WORDS are gonna be THE JUDGE
JESUS will have the last word . whether it be for the good of those who heard him
or for the desruction of those who rejected HIM and His words .
 

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There is only one way to God, that is through the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, which God raised from the dead by the holy spirit.

How people view the end time, or seeing Jesus coming back, depends on the particular view they have.

If someone is not educated on all the viewpoints, they should eductate themselves on at least the main four.

That is my encouragement to all people.

There will be people who disagree with you but seening Jesus coming back or not does not effect your salvation at all... which is of faith.

What it does effect is your worldly outlook and view.
 

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There is only one way to God, that is through the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, which God raised from the dead by the holy spirit.

How people view the end time, or seeing Jesus coming back, depends on the particular view they have.

If someone is not educated on all the viewpoints, they should eductate themselves on at least the main four.

That is my encouragement to all people.

There will be people who disagree with you but seening Jesus coming back or not does not effect your salvation at all... which is of faith.

What it does effect is your worldly outlook and view.
You want to hear something i hope puts the good and holy fear of GOD into you .
I used to live for satan , THOUGH I KNEW IT NOT
i used to live for me
And yet i could have quoated your first sentence . DOCTRINE MATTERS mathew .
FOR WHO WE BELIEVE , IS WHOSE WE ARE AND BELONG TOO . WHOSE WORDS do you believe mathew
That is not an accusation , i am not the enemy .
But many can cliam to BELEIVE and yet they do not BELEIVE ALL HIS WORDS .
they believe in what paul and yes me and others would say and call is another jesus .
and that jesus wont be saving them . You need to return to the bible again .
And when you do , PUT DOWN ALL other books and you just read it for yourself .
 

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you are not and were not being called upon by me to tone it down BUT rather TO DOUBLE DOWN .
my reminder , however for you and myself is
DONT let them wear you down . SPEAK , TYPE , write and live THE TRUTH of ALL MIGHTY GOD and OF HIS CHRIST
of the prophets and of all sound doctrine . THE ONLY and i do say ONLY
pattern that works to the good of this people is , THE PATTERN GOD SET , HIS WORDS
That means both beholding and preaching THE GOODNESS and SEVERITY OF GOD . speaking
ALL HIS WORDS , all HIS REMINDERS . FOR EVERY and i do mean EVERY WORD OF GOD
and WORD HE INSPIRED IS MEAT FOR OUR SOUL and WORKS to the good of the hearer and doer .
BUT WOE WAIL to he or she who omits and twists such lovely words
FOR THE WORD SHALL BE THEIR JUDGE on the last DAY . MY WORDS will be your judge .
AND when i said MY WORDS , i was not quoting me , BUT CHRIST HIMSELF . HIS WORDS are gonna be THE JUDGE
JESUS will have the last word . whether it be for the good of those who heard him
or for the desruction of those who rejected HIM and His words .
I am Doubling down now, hours and minutes pass very fast now we don't have much time left before the great tribulation. I feel a great urgency now to preach the word throughout. and am preparing texts for this forum and perhaps a simple website to preach the gospel.

Blessings friend
 
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Thank you to all who share their view.

I am someone who believes Jesus came as promised as I mentioned several times.
 

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Do you believe God is unable to communicate with men properly?

We already talked about Ez 39. It is not a literal prophecy about a modern army, obviously. Today's armies do not use swords, horses, shields. It is either about some historic event or it is metaphorical. It obviously cannot be both literal and about future. Such option does not exist, it is not rational. Do you consider yourself irrational, @Douggg?
It will take Israel 7 months to bury all of the dead of Gog's army. The burial site will be called "The valley of Hamongog".

Since such a burial site does not presently exist, the event is not a historical event. It will happen in the near future.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
 
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All 3. Jerome, who engineered the Latin Vulgate, had a strong understanding that the Antichrist was soon to come. He lived at the time of the incursions and establishment of the 10 horns in the former Empire. He lived in the 5th century. Yet he had not yet witnessed the fall of the 3 horns which he said would give surety to the identity of the little horn. Other church fathers taught the same, as did the apostle Paul. Many of them witnessed the demise of the western Empire, they saw the rise of the horns, and knew the little horn was soon to come, which it did.
The reformers, several centuries later and having a clearer view as the past had unfolded, had a clear insight and understanding of the identity of that little horn. They had been raised within that system, had been taught by it, imprisoned theologically within its apostate framework, and were then breaking free under the inspired leadership of the holy Spirit, exposing her sins and errors. That system today is rising to global power, and will in the near future, be placed at the head of all world religions as a supreme ruler over the consciences of mankind, just as she had in Europe during the dark ages. The meeting just this week between the pope and king Charles is yet another precursor as to what we can expect in time to come.
Yes, only the blind cannot see what is in from of them.

Rome versus Zion: The Great Political Theme of the Apocalypse​

A central political theme of The Apocalypse is the conflict between Rome and Zion. Rome is portrayed in three forms, politically as the Empire, ecclesiastically as the Papacy, and in combination as the Holy Roman Empire. The Apocalypse is seen as predicting both the decline of the Roman Empire and the rise of the Papacy, symbolized as the Beast of the Sea.

As the Roman Empire weakened and Rome itself became politically insignificant, its bishop, the Pope gained increasing religious power. Freed from direct imperial control, the papacy extended its authority across Italy and the Western world. The decree of Emperor Justinian, following his defeat of the Gothic kingdom, further legitimized the Papacy’s power and influence.

The “Beast of the Sea” gains its authority through the “dragon.” In historical terms, this reflects how the Papacy’s power grew with the support of the Emperors of Constantinople. During this time, Rome and Constantinople served as the spiritual and military centers of the Roman world. The military strength of Constantinople often upheld the authority of the Bishop of Rome. Even when anti-papal forces the Goths controlled Italy for about sixty years, inflicting what seemed a “deadly wound” on the imperial power, it was Justinian who ultimately restored papal authority.

However, as Constantinople’s military strength declined under pressure from the Saracens and later the Ottomans, the Pope was forced to seek new allies. Meanwhile, deep divisions split the Church itself: Rome led the Western (Roman) Catholic faction, while Constantinople became the center of the Eastern (Greek) Catholic tradition. With the Eastern Empire in decline, the Papacy turned westward for support.

By the mid-eighth century (A.D. 752), the Lombards, hostile to the Papacy, dominated much of Italy. In contrast, the rising Frankish power under Pepin and later his son Charlemagne offered strong support to Rome. In 799, an alliance was sealed between the Pope and Charlemagne, laying the foundation of the Holy Roman Empire symbolized as the two-horned Beast of the Earth in Revelation.

This alliance gave the Papacy temporal authority, granting the Pope control over the Papal States and elevating him to both spiritual and civil leadership. Rome, once humbled, was restored as a city of imperial prestige. As historian Edward Gibbon observed, it was “revered by the Latins as the Metropolis of the world, and the throne of the Pope and Emperor who from the Eternal City derived their title, their honours, and the right or exercise of temporal dominion.”

Charlemagne and his successors provided the military might necessary to sustain papal power, assuming the role once held by the Eastern emperors. This Holy Roman Empire, uniting religious and military authority, endured for a thousand years from A.D. 800 until its dissolution by Napoleon in 1806. Thus, it serves as a historical counterpart to the “thousand-year reign” of Christ symbolically foretold in Revelation 20.
 
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This is what I call Lego theology.

You and legos, theology is built through the use of the scriptures

You take various places and put them together to build the case for your view.
Paul loved legos, look at Romans 10:1-21. Paul starts in Lev 18:5 then turns to Duet 30:12-14 Paul follows that up with Isaiah 28:16
after which he turns to Joel 2:32 then back to Isaiah 52:7 then jumps up a chapter into Isaiah 53:1 and touches down into the Psalms, to Psalm 19:4. After that goes back even further into Deut 32:21 (but not quite as far back as Deut 30:12-14 where he first began). Then Paul returns to Isaiah once again, reaching further up into Isaiah 65:1-2 at this time, all of which (together) creates the context we read in Romans 10:1-21. So he pulls from each of those places (combined). Talk about legos, this is a legos paradise right here.

A Lego theology is not your enemy, we build.
 

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You and legos, theology is built through the use of the scriptures
Any theology can be built in this way. Pick the verses you like, ignore the ones you do not like and voilà!

Paul loved legos...
A Lego theology is not your enemy, we build.
That is where the authority of the apostles comes in. We are not supposed to build eschatology, they did.
 
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It will take Israel 7 months to bury all of the dead of Gog's army. The burial site will be called "The valley of Hamongog".

Since such a burial site does not presently exist, the event is not a historical event. It will happen in the near future.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
Oh, 7 months. What a coincidence that exactly 7 months, such symbolic number, right? And there is no nation called Gog today. So, again, you are inconsistent.

Why "Gog" is not a literal name, but "Hamongog" must be a literal name of a valley? Inconsistent cherry picking everywhere, in your eschatology.
 

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@Douggg
Do you believe God is unable to communicate with men properly?

We already talked about Ez 39. It is not a literal prophecy about a modern army, obviously. Today's armies do not use swords, horses, shields. It is either about some historic event or it is metaphorical. It obviously cannot be both literal and about future. Such option does not exist, it is not rational. Do you consider yourself irrational?
 
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Any theology can be built in this way.
Thats the point, dont they even say be careful how you build, no man can lay any other foundation than what has been laid, we know this.
That is where the authority of the apostles comes in. We are not supposed to build eschatology, they did.

We would build by using what they gave to us (whether that be applying the priciples there in to our lives) but also growing in our understanding. I would consider them the cross checkers of our work though, its not like you are bulding something that is outside of the prophets and the apostles. And obviously when you are taking from both theres connections that do come to you when comparing between them that build a far clearer picture is all I would say.
 

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Thats the point, dont they even say be careful how you build, no man can lay any other foundation than what has been laid, we know this.


We would build by using what they gave to us (whether that be applying the priciples there in to our lives) but also growing in our understanding. I would consider them the cross checkers of our work though, its not like you are bulding something that is outside of the prophets and the apostles. And obviously when you are taking from both theres connections that do come to you when comparing between them that build a far clearer picture is all I would say.
Nope, we are not supposed to create our own eschatology that contradicts or ignores the words of Jesus and the teachings of the apostles. Where would you find such principle in the New Testament?
 
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Nope, we are not supposed to create our own eschatology that contradicts or ignores the words of Jesus and the teachings of the apostles. Where would you find such principle in the New Testament?

What are you talking about creating eschatology, its mapped in the scripture, you pull it together through the sources given to us. If Jesus tells us to look at what was spoken by Daniel on a thing, you fetch there, if Paul said I said Isaiah tells us another thing in the context of what he is speaking you go there. You follow Jesus, the prophets and apostles as they lay out a thing, and clicking them together is legoing, simply put.
 

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What are you talking about creating eschatology, its mapped in the scripture, you pull it together through the sources given to us. If Jesus tells us to look at what was spoken by Daniel on a thing, you fetch there, if Paul said I said Isaiah tells us another thing in the context of what he is speaking you go there. You follow Jesus, the prophets and apostles as they lay out a thing, and clicking them together is legoing, simply put.
Jesus does not tell us to look at Daniel, He said that to His generation - to the 1st century generation.

Creating something beyond that is not apostolic, but a Lego theology.