NY's Gov. Cuomo-No more than 10 people 4 Thanksgiving @ your house or adults/kids will B arrested!

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The virus of dictator wannabe's can't be missed with this latest. Cuomo's household I'm sure will follow his own rules. Not.
The good news? The local Sheriff of NY county who also has a law degree said, no, I'm not enforcing that! God bless that sheriff!
And if you're a neighbor who witnesses a neighbor having more than ten people arrive at their home for Thanksgiving, you're suppose to call the police and alert them to that violation.

NY Sheriff with Law Degree Cites Constitution in Refusal To Enforce Gov. Cuomo's Thanksgiving Order

Not even Hitler was this cracked.
 
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Good for the Sheriff. Cuomo can go where it is hot and it ain't death valley
 

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Not even Hitler was this cracked.
But Hitler did not have access to a bio-weapon meant to destroy lives. Everyone should carefully read the article posted below, and spread the word that it is time to stand up against this hoax. I will be also posting this on the thread about lockdowns. I have been telling people since March, 2020 that this is a scamdemic, and now a virologist has confirmed it.

WND
Cambridge virologist: Lockdowns and masks are 'greatest hoax ever'
'Utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians'


After listing his credentials, a Cambridge University-trained virologist spoke in a public forum against the extension of a mask mandate in one of Canada's largest cities, calling comprehensive lockdowns, masks and other mitigation efforts against the coronavirus "utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians."

"It's outrageous. This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting population," said Dr. Roger Hodkinson, the CEO of Western Medical Assessments.


He was speaking via telephone during an Edmonton City Council Community and Public Services Committee meeting last Friday regarding the Alberta city's move to extend its face-covering bylaw.

Hodkinson began with a summary of his credentials to ensure he not be regarded as a "quack."
He said he is a medical specialist in pathology, which includes virology, who trained at Cambridge University in England. A Royal College certified pathologist in Canada, he is the former chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons committee in Ottawa. Hodkinson served as CEO of a large private medical laboratory in Edmonton, Alberta, and now runs MutantDx, a molecular diagnostics company in North Carolina that provides COVID-19 tests.

Hodkinson warned that what he was about to say was "lay language and blunt" and "counter-narrative."
"There is absolutely nothing that can be done to contain this virus other than protecting older, more vulnerable people," he said. "It should be thought of as nothing other than a bad flu season," said Hodkinson. "This is not ebola. It's not SARS."

The reaction to the coronavirus is "politics playing medicine, and that's a very dangerous game."
"There is no action of any kind needed other than what happened last year when we got unwell," he said. "We stayed home, we took chicken noodle soup, we didn’t visit granny, and we decided when we would return to work. We didn’t need anyone to tell us."

White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci, in fact, co-authored an article published March 26 in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the case fatality rate for COVID-19 would turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza," about one-tenth of 1%. The Centers for Disease Control now estimates the survival rate for those infected with COVID-19 is 99.997% for ages 0-19; 99.98% for 20-49; 99.5% for 50-69; and 94.6% for those 70 and older. The World Health Organization's estimate in March of a death rate of 3.4% sparked panic worldwide, fueling the catastrophic lockdowns.

Hodkinson said masks "are utterly useless."
"There is no evidence base for their effectiveness, whatsoever," he said. "Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signaling." Masks are not worn correctly most of the time, the physician said. "It's utterly ridiculous, seeing these uneducated people -- I'm not saying that in a pejorative sense -- seeing these walking around like lemmings obeying with any knowledge base to put the mask on their face," he said.

He said "social distancing" is also useless because COVID-19 spread by aerosol, which travels some 30 yards before landing.

A randomized, controlled Danish study published this week in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that a "recommendation to wear a surgical mask when outside the home among others did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, incident [COVID-19] infection compared with no mask recommendation."

In October, an analysis of a dozen graphs charting the number of COVID-19 cases in countries and U.S. states confirmed the conclusions of recent studies that mask mandates have no effect on the spread of the disease.

Hear Dr. Roger Hodkinson's remarks:
Hodkinson said every business and public place should be "open tomorrow," as stated in the "Great Barrington Declaration," a petition launched by Stanford, Harvard and Oxford epidemiologists arguing for not restricting the healthy while protecting the vulnerable.

WND reported last Wednesday the coronavirus adviser to Joe Biden who is advocating a national lockdown of four to six weeks argued against lockdowns in March in a Washington Post op-ed, advocating the strategy promoted by the "Great Barrington Declaration."

'You've gotta get a grip on this'

Hodkinson also weighed in on testing, noting he is in the business of testing for COVID-19.
"I do want to emphasize that positive tests do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection," he said. "It's simply driving public hysteria, and all testing should stop unless you're presenting to hospital with some respiratory symptoms," said Hodkinson.

In August, the New York Times found in an analysis of data that up to 90% of people testing positive for COVID-19 carried barely any virus.

Times reporter Apoorva Mandavilli summarized her story on Twitter: "NEW: All these months into the pandemic, we may have been testing the wrong way. Data from some state labs suggest up to 90% (!!) of people who get a positive result are no longer contagious and don't need to isolate."

Hodkinson said "all that should be done" from a public policy standpoint "is to protect the vulnerable."
He recommended giving everyone in nursing homes 3000 to 5000 international units of Vitamin D everyday, "which has shown to radically reduce the likelihood of infection."

He pointed to statistics by the province of Alberta indicating the risk of death for people under 65 in the province is one in 300,000.
"One in 300,000! You've gotta get a grip on this," he said. "The scale of the response that you are undertaking with no evidence for it is utterly ridiculous given the consequences of acting in a way that you’re proposing." He pointed to "all kinds of suicides, business closures, funerals, weddings, etc., etc." "It's simply outrageous," he said. "It's just another bad flu and you’ve gotta get your minds around that." The physician called for people to "make their own decisions."

"You should be totally out of the business of medicine. You’re being led down the garden path by the chief medical officer of health for this province," he said.
"I'm absolutely outraged that this has reached this level. It should all stop tomorrow. Thank you very much."

The moderator of the public forum was appreciative. "Well, thank you for that, again," he said. "Hopefully all the layers of government are listening. We have the least amount of influence, but we definitely appreciate everything you had to say."


Cambridge virologist: Lockdowns and masks are 'greatest hoax ever'
 
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The virus of dictator wannabe's can't be missed with this latest. Cuomo's household I'm sure will follow his own rules. Not.
The good news? The local Sheriff of NY county who also has a law degree said, no, I'm not enforcing that! God bless that sheriff!
And if you're a neighbor who witnesses a neighbor having more than ten people arrive at their home for Thanksgiving, you're suppose to call the police and alert them to that violation.

NY Sheriff with Law Degree Cites Constitution in Refusal To Enforce Gov. Cuomo's Thanksgiving Order

Not even Hitler was this cracked.

That's generous

We had far tougher restrictions here in Victoria during the peak of the 2nd wave here, but Victoria has pretty much gotten over it now, with something like 21 days of 0 new cases in a row and only 3 total active cases.

Masks are still mandatory but I am not fussed, I don't mind wearing a mask.
 
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But Hitler did not have access to a bio-weapon meant to destroy lives. Everyone should carefully read the article posted below, and spread the word that it is time to stand up against this hoax. I will be also posting this on the thread about lockdowns. I have been telling people since March, 2020 that this is a scamdemic, and now a virologist has confirmed it.

WND
Cambridge virologist: Lockdowns and masks are 'greatest hoax ever'
'Utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians'


After listing his credentials, a Cambridge University-trained virologist spoke in a public forum against the extension of a mask mandate in one of Canada's largest cities, calling comprehensive lockdowns, masks and other mitigation efforts against the coronavirus "utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians."

"It's outrageous. This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting population," said Dr. Roger Hodkinson, the CEO of Western Medical Assessments.


He was speaking via telephone during an Edmonton City Council Community and Public Services Committee meeting last Friday regarding the Alberta city's move to extend its face-covering bylaw.

Hodkinson began with a summary of his credentials to ensure he not be regarded as a "quack."
He said he is a medical specialist in pathology, which includes virology, who trained at Cambridge University in England. A Royal College certified pathologist in Canada, he is the former chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons committee in Ottawa. Hodkinson served as CEO of a large private medical laboratory in Edmonton, Alberta, and now runs MutantDx, a molecular diagnostics company in North Carolina that provides COVID-19 tests.

Hodkinson warned that what he was about to say was "lay language and blunt" and "counter-narrative."
"There is absolutely nothing that can be done to contain this virus other than protecting older, more vulnerable people," he said. "It should be thought of as nothing other than a bad flu season," said Hodkinson. "This is not ebola. It's not SARS."

The reaction to the coronavirus is "politics playing medicine, and that's a very dangerous game."
"There is no action of any kind needed other than what happened last year when we got unwell," he said. "We stayed home, we took chicken noodle soup, we didn’t visit granny, and we decided when we would return to work. We didn’t need anyone to tell us."

White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci, in fact, co-authored an article published March 26 in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the case fatality rate for COVID-19 would turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza," about one-tenth of 1%. The Centers for Disease Control now estimates the survival rate for those infected with COVID-19 is 99.997% for ages 0-19; 99.98% for 20-49; 99.5% for 50-69; and 94.6% for those 70 and older. The World Health Organization's estimate in March of a death rate of 3.4% sparked panic worldwide, fueling the catastrophic lockdowns.

Hodkinson said masks "are utterly useless."
"There is no evidence base for their effectiveness, whatsoever," he said. "Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signaling." Masks are not worn correctly most of the time, the physician said. "It's utterly ridiculous, seeing these uneducated people -- I'm not saying that in a pejorative sense -- seeing these walking around like lemmings obeying with any knowledge base to put the mask on their face," he said.

He said "social distancing" is also useless because COVID-19 spread by aerosol, which travels some 30 yards before landing.

A randomized, controlled Danish study published this week in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that a "recommendation to wear a surgical mask when outside the home among others did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, incident [COVID-19] infection compared with no mask recommendation."

In October, an analysis of a dozen graphs charting the number of COVID-19 cases in countries and U.S. states confirmed the conclusions of recent studies that mask mandates have no effect on the spread of the disease.

Hear Dr. Roger Hodkinson's remarks:
Hodkinson said every business and public place should be "open tomorrow," as stated in the "Great Barrington Declaration," a petition launched by Stanford, Harvard and Oxford epidemiologists arguing for not restricting the healthy while protecting the vulnerable.

WND reported last Wednesday the coronavirus adviser to Joe Biden who is advocating a national lockdown of four to six weeks argued against lockdowns in March in a Washington Post op-ed, advocating the strategy promoted by the "Great Barrington Declaration."

'You've gotta get a grip on this'

Hodkinson also weighed in on testing, noting he is in the business of testing for COVID-19.
"I do want to emphasize that positive tests do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection," he said. "It's simply driving public hysteria, and all testing should stop unless you're presenting to hospital with some respiratory symptoms," said Hodkinson.

In August, the New York Times found in an analysis of data that up to 90% of people testing positive for COVID-19 carried barely any virus.

Times reporter Apoorva Mandavilli summarized her story on Twitter: "NEW: All these months into the pandemic, we may have been testing the wrong way. Data from some state labs suggest up to 90% (!!) of people who get a positive result are no longer contagious and don't need to isolate."

Hodkinson said "all that should be done" from a public policy standpoint "is to protect the vulnerable."
He recommended giving everyone in nursing homes 3000 to 5000 international units of Vitamin D everyday, "which has shown to radically reduce the likelihood of infection."

He pointed to statistics by the province of Alberta indicating the risk of death for people under 65 in the province is one in 300,000.
"One in 300,000! You've gotta get a grip on this," he said. "The scale of the response that you are undertaking with no evidence for it is utterly ridiculous given the consequences of acting in a way that you’re proposing." He pointed to "all kinds of suicides, business closures, funerals, weddings, etc., etc." "It's simply outrageous," he said. "It's just another bad flu and you’ve gotta get your minds around that." The physician called for people to "make their own decisions."

"You should be totally out of the business of medicine. You’re being led down the garden path by the chief medical officer of health for this province," he said.
"I'm absolutely outraged that this has reached this level. It should all stop tomorrow. Thank you very much."

The moderator of the public forum was appreciative. "Well, thank you for that, again," he said. "Hopefully all the layers of government are listening. We have the least amount of influence, but we definitely appreciate everything you had to say."


Cambridge virologist: Lockdowns and masks are 'greatest hoax ever'
Bioweapon and political weapon. The timing could not be missed even when the lock down measures was first announced. All purposed to destroy our economy and impact the Trump presidency. Enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Come the dawn when it is all in the light every last one responsible should be charged with treason and made to meet the punishment treason requires. On live stream world wide. Send the message to the enemies of America. We do not, never shall, tolerate traitors.

It is a dark agenda straight out of the mouth of Satan.
 
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Those but heads can arrest me, kill me, torture me but they will never get me to stop going to Church and visiting family. This is my freedom not theirs and truthfully I hate them for this plandemic. Someday I pray that we all have the backbone to overthrow these oppressors. If we let all this happen the free western nations will be the communist western nation where freedom is a memory
 

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Those but heads can arrest me, kill me, torture me but they will never get me to stop going to Church and visiting family. This is my freedom not theirs and truthfully I hate them for this plandemic. Someday I pray that we all have the backbone to overthrow these oppressors. If we let all this happen the free western nations will be the communist western nation where freedom is a memory
That is precisely what the Leftists in power are hoping to manifest in states within their control.
Cuomo is off the rails. I hope citizens in the area of his home undertake surveillance to see how many people are guests for Thanksgiving. Live stream to YouTube. Call any fair media outlet and let them know. Expose the hypocrisy of NY's resident dictator.

California's Newsom is just as cracked. Only he's also deeply anti-Christian.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/photos-show-california-gov-newsom-at-maskless-party/

Dem governors taking heat for flouting their own coronavirus lockdown guidelines


Calif. Gov. Newsom, officials caught defying their own COVID-19 restrictions | One America News Network
 

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Look I'm one that believed this virus is real and I also believe it kills.

It may be debatable how many because we have seen number manipulation. What we don't know us how much. And there is increasing evidence right in front of our eyes that masks and shutdowns haven't been effective in stopping this.

But I'm also not going to be one of those people who refuses to wear a mask. Because I care about others. I don't want my fellow Americans to view me as a believer as detrimental to their health. Maybe my mask does absolutely nothing. But if they feel like I am being a jackass for not wearing one, well it's no skin off my nose if I do. It doesn't really harm me, and if it makes them feel better I will.

If the masks really work and social distancing really work, why are we seeing a spike? A reasonable person would admit its not really effective.

To get dictatorial about it though is what the left likes to do. They want the government to control you. Just like mandatory mask wearing and mandatory minimum gatherings and no singing in church. Dictators all. And you happen to note it's primarily lefties?

Yes this virus is killing people. But it's only certain ones. Why are these dictators providing money to protect them? When's the last time you heard from them putting cash into these rest homes and retirement homes etc to build and provide services in there?

Where are the programs to provide delivery services for the elderly and vulnerable so they don't have to leave the house if they don't want to?
 
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Most of the hospitals are full...

No room for you if you do get sick...

It's going to be just like NYC during the first stages of Covid-19 in the spring/summer.
 

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Look I'm one that believed this virus is real and I also believe it kills.

It may be debatable how many because we have seen number manipulation. What we don't know us how much. And there is increasing evidence right in front of our eyes that masks and shutdowns haven't been effective in stopping this.

But I'm also not going to be one of those people who refuses to wear a mask. Because I care about others. I don't want my fellow Americans to view me as a believer as detrimental to their health. Maybe my mask does absolutely nothing. But if they feel like I am being a jackass for not wearing one, well it's no skin off my nose if I do. It doesn't really harm me, and if it makes them feel better I will.

If the masks really work and social distancing really work, why are we seeing a spike? A reasonable person would admit its not really effective.

To get dictatorial about it though is what the left likes to do. They want the government to control you. Just like mandatory mask wearing and mandatory minimum gatherings and no singing in church. Dictators all. And you happen to note it's primarily lefties?

Yes this virus is killing people. But it's only certain ones. Why are these dictators providing money to protect them? When's the last time you heard from them putting cash into these rest homes and retirement homes etc to build and provide services in there?

Where are the programs to provide delivery services for the elderly and vulnerable so they don't have to leave the house if they don't want to?
I for one am not saying the Covid virus is not real. It is a flu virus that mutated from the former SARS virus. However, we know that the number of deaths attributed to Covid-19 are not factual. Nor are the number of positive tests for Covid-19 accurate.

It is those discrepancies in the facts that give me and others pause. If Covid 19 is so lethal why lie about the death toll numbers? Why lie about the number of positive tests? All by the way generated through the offices of government entities and allegedly trustworthy pharmacy interests. The lies about numbers of death is attributed to the directive issued months ago by The Department of Health and Human Services.

And further, those who die of Covid 19 are like unto pariah of the black plague. For instance, Judge Jeanine Pirro, recently suspended from Fox news for her observations of voter fraud in this last election, went public months ago about the aftermath of death due to Covid 19.
A friend of hers husband was listed on his death certificate as having died of Covid19. He had not. However, the mortuary refused to give him a typical casket burial and insisted on a hermetically sealed casket that ran the widow in the neighborhood of $20 thousand dollars!
That's exploitative to say the least when others are buried the usual way.

Yes, the Covid 19 flu virus is real. No, the numbers of dead and positive tested cannot be trusted because the documentation proves they can't be trusted.

people never tested get positive covid 19 test results

What is objectionable with regard to Covid 19 is that it is being used as a vehicle to strip American citizens of their rights and civil liberties. Particularly in the cross hairs of local state governments in some states are Christians and church gatherings. When other worldly locations are entitled to gather in large numbers and the local churches in comparison are restricted to much smaller numbers.
Covid-19 is a vehicle for authoritarian dictatorial rule through state mandates. In my view that is what should also be of concern and objectionable.
 

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Those but heads can arrest me, kill me, torture me but they will never get me to stop going to Church and visiting family. This is my freedom not theirs and truthfully I hate them for this plandemic. Someday I pray that we all have the backbone to overthrow these oppressors. If we let all this happen the free western nations will be the communist western nation where freedom is a memory






You're very brave and inspirational. :)
 
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What is objectionable with regard to Covid 19 is that it is being used as a vehicle to strip American citizens of their rights and civil liberties.

This. This make the whole thing false. A doctor was taking care of non covid patients in non covid ward, he made his rounds and went home for the night. The Doctor came back the next day and every patient had covid on their charts. He was livid and went to the Hospital Administrator and he told the Doctor "I authorized it for the extra money" and the Doctor yelled at the Administrator and the Administrator almost choked the Doctor and fired him on the spot. The Doctor reported it and the Administrator was punished.

I have no idea if this thing is real or not because we have been lied to so much, what I do know is that this thing is make huge money for many and turning the world into a Communist dystopia
 
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This. This make the whole thing false. A doctor was taking care of on covid patients in non covid ward, he made his rounds and went home for the night. The Doctor came back the next day and every patient had covid on their charts. He was livid and went to the Hospital Administrator and he told the Doctor "I authorized it for the extra money" and the Doctor yelled at the Administrator and the Administrator almost choked the Doctor and fired him on the spot. The Doctor reported it and the Administrator was punished.

I have no idea if this thing is real or not because we have been lied to so much, what I do know is that this thing is make huge money for many and turning the world into a Communist dystopia
Those people I spoke of that we know who lost people to a motorcycle crash or Alzheimer's but the death certificates all listed Covid 19 were also livid when they received those certificates.
They called the attending doctor, one called the doctor who tended the Alzheimer's patient for the last few years of his life.
What did they say about that Covid notation as cause of death? Almost parroting one another?
Don't let this bother you______________<name of caller, the government will pay you for the loss due to Covid 19.


There's evil working behind this. (Adding in edit) Who ever thought the new world order would be ushered in on a virus. Virus mutate. See the correlation? So too does the world using Covid 19 as a vehicle.

The powers behind the rulership of the whole world, those powerful soulless actors behind the curtain, are keen on symbolism.
For example, 9-11.
Notice the symbolism? 911(national emergency phone number) Planes hijacked. "United" "American" = United America(n) = America United.
 
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I have known a few faithful preachers over the past weeks and months who have been killed by heart attacks brought on by the virus, seemingly. We need faithful preachers, and if precautions are necessary while we wait for the vaccine, so be it, IMHO.
 

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I have known a few faithful preachers over the past weeks and months who have been killed by heart attacks brought on by the virus, seemingly. We need faithful preachers, and if precautions are necessary while we wait for the vaccine, so be it, IMHO.
Would you get the vaccine?

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Would you get the vaccine?

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Bill Gates Calls For National Tracking System For Coronavirus During Reddit AMA
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Research could lead to remote stimulation of cells to treat cancer or diabetes
You mean that you would have millions of ppl exposed to the dangerous illness rather than for there to be the possibility of finding out and recording if ppl already have the antibodies in their system?

With all vaccinations, blood tests can determine whether a person has the antibodies. The precise way this is done may develop with science.
 
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You mean that you would have millions of ppl exposed to the dangerous illness rather than for there to be the possibility of finding out and recording if ppl already have the antibodies in their system?

With all vaccinations, blood tests can determine whether a person has the antibodies. The precise way this is done may develop with science.
Herd immunity should not be underestimated.

Also, virus mutate. A vaccine does not cure the flu. A vaccine is the product of a known flu virus, a purified serum, that injected into a patient causes the immune system to build antibodies to fight against that particular strain. This does not mean that patient will never get a flu again. It means their immune system is prepared to fight against that particular strain that was in the flu shot itself.

With all the conflict surrounding Covid-19, the false numbers of attributable deaths, the false number of positive tests, any mandate for the Covid 19 vaccine (pending vaccine) should be met with skepticism.
 
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